- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

I see no suspicious leds in the pictures, And they are not exactly the latest and the greatest, I guess they found back some old reels in the cellar.

The pictures of them look like genuine, but the Lumens they listed sounds off. (148lm for XP-G2, 300lm for XM-L) unless it’s nominal or lower raring and not maximum in their listings. (Those ratings are close to the ratings from Lattice brights website for their clones.

I don’t think the people in FT are that technically savvy. They just list whatever the suppliers gave them. As somebody pointed out before, The standard test current for XP-G2 is listed at 350 ma. 148 lm is exactly the s2 bin generate at 85 C in the spec. Similarly, the lumens of XP-L is listed at 700ma. 300 lm is exactly the U2 bin produce at 85 C. Of course, we will not know until someone test it out. Right now, I think they should be o.k. based on my past experiences with FT.

I'd suggest that the ratings for them are from the Cree PDF's. Someone picked them up previously for overstating the specs on the leds.

very true now that i remember reading the Cree specs. I’m just more used to driving these emitters to the maximum to get 4 times those lumens. :bigsmile:

what do you think about this from a famous flashlight?

Fixed it for ya!

So, a Lattice Bright in a ZeusRay?
That just isn’t right.

Definitely a Latticebright fake of a XM-L2. east to see that this must be a horrible zombie blue tint form looking at the thin, light greenish-yellow phosphor that the LB fakes are becoming known for & their really bad tints.

see here: Review: Zeusray CREE XM-L2 zoomable flashlight
another LB led
and this is a rewiev,what a fuck?

Rewiev said ‘’Uses XM-L2 instead of XM-L for a 20% better improvement’’
LOL

You need to resize your image down, its far to big to view properly.)

done,look the LB print

its a latticebright indeed. kind of sad how these lattice bright fakes were already flowing to us more than a year ago and we were not aware of them until lately.

does these LB are available in Warm white?

i have never seen one yet, only in eye-searing radiation blueish white.

what do you think about paying mor attention to that?
maybe add [condirmed Cree inside] or something else?

  • faked components are a bad thing - don´t look in the other direction”

I believe that the led on the LB board in the Zeusray may actually be an XM-L2.

My second edition Zeusray, has a regular XM-L2 with a traditional white cree board, but it looks like that reviewer with an original model, has a legit Cree, but Dealmetic probably had an any alu board will do policy. After getting a worried about all this, I checked all my lights, all good here, but I don’t usually play the cheap light lottery anyway

The Zeusray that I used in my ThorFire BD04 Review doesn’t seem any brighter than the 4x AMC 7135 driven ThorFire BD04. The Zeusray is a newer model with the crappy pill, not the good older model.

ThorFire BD04 on left, Zeusray on the right. Tell me what you think.

Here’s a look down the front end. My picture isn’t great but you can get a good look at the emitter. If it is real, then the quality of the Zeusray has to be pretty bad to have a 4x AMC 7135 driven light make it look mediocre.

Just found this in one of my smaller flashlights. It was a generic, but still listed as a Cree XM-L… and it most certainly is not. I knew that name sounded familiar when this thread popped up.

So sad.

Melting…!!

This is a genuine LatticeBright.