Convoy L2...Guess who's back???

So nice of him to list mcpcb and driver sizes right up front with the host.

All 4 cents from your posts noted. I hadnā€™t though about the ā€œgrip stopā€ or ā€œslip stopā€ function of the tactical ring so I have to retract my ā€œuselessā€ comment. It doesnā€™t look like itā€™s removable on the Jax but Iā€™m only going by pictures. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s enough for me to want it on the L2 but you make a good point. I can tell you first hand this beast is heavy. I just got my stock L2 from Simon this morning. All I had time to do is charge a cell and light up a shop wall so far but I can tell you the beam was much brighter than I expected from a stock light with a very tight hot spot. In fact itā€™s the tightest hot spot Iā€™ve personally seen from a dome-on emitter. Iā€™ll report back once I get a chance to use this thing at night but so far Iā€™m quite impressed. This thing really throws! :bigsmile: :beer:

I send him a message to order a L2 :bigsmile:

When I was reading through my old messages from Simon, he said that he will be making a XHP version in the future. Letā€™s hope that it will have a one piece tube like the Jax X6. Or better yet, have a larger head too. J) :evil:

I canā€™t make any promises about a bigger head but Iā€™m fairly certain the one piece tube is going to happen. I will do my best to make sure of it. I took my new L2 outside with what I figured was my best comparison light. My comparison light is a favorite of mineā€¦ a XinTD C8 with spring bypass in the tail, FET driver (Wights A17DD-S08) XM-L2 U3 1A (dome on) on a 20mm Noctigon putting out 1580 at the start and 1525 lumens at 30 seconds in turbo and pulling 4.84A at the tail on a freshly charged LG HE2. The lumen numbers are from a trusted, calibrated light sphere owned by a good friend. I donā€™t have one myself so my comparison is my eyes only. My New L2 is running on the only 26650 I own which is a King Kong 4000 mAh ICR26650 also freshly charged. When I took them outside (I live far from the city, nice and dark) to my naked eye the L2 probably puts out a few less lumens but has a noticeably tighter hotspot and throws further. Iā€™m also much happier with this driver than any other Convoy I own. The 3 modes are very well configured. The low is not moon but it is lower than standard low, medium is just what it should be and the high is sweet. I also tested the hidden strobe which worked perfectly and was not once triggered by accident in an hour of fiddling. I am honestly far more impressed with the stock form than I expected to be. In my opinion this light has HUGE modding potential. It will be even better IMO with the double 26650 tube. When some of you skilled flashlight builders have at this thing itā€™s going to be absolutely amazing! Iā€™ve always been a fan of Simonā€™s work but this one exceeded my expectations. Iā€™m looking forward to a few more expert opinions. :bigsmile:

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So that cuts out the option of any single cell builds, 2x series only.

Why would you say that? Nobody is asking him to stop making the existing host, just that he add a double cell tube option for those that want it. I sure do. Like KawiBoy1428 said. This is not an EDC light. Itā€™s heavy. Built like a tank. IMO because of the massive yet beautifully styled head the tube seems a little short. Large hands will find they need more to grip and I think it will just overall balance the light much better. Donā€™t get me wrong, I love the existing designā€¦but I will love a longer tube even more.

I honestly donā€™t care about the driver or LED as long as it takes extension tubes.

An extension tube would allow 1 cell or 2 cell use. As far as I can tell the only reason for a one piece 3x 2x series tube is to be able to beat people over the head with it. :smiley: Now I do like having that option (for self defense) I wouldnā€™t want to sacrifice the ability to do 1 cell non-series builds. Like an XM-L fet driver build. This upcoming new design L2 will have a side switch, right? Totally different than this current L2. Attiny85 side switch fw.

~ edit ~ 3x 2x

3x series would allow for extended runtime with 6v LEDs and a buck driver or potentially using a boost driver with a 12v LED.

Just talking abiut the current model here. How is a 2 cell solid tube any less versatile? Yiu just swap between the single cell and double cell tubeā€¦ Whenever you like.

So Simon is willing to produce a 2 cell solid tube while continuing to sell the single cell tube as well? Iā€™m all for that.

I cannot guarantee that he is willing yet, but that is what Iā€™m pushing for. Iā€™d like him to continue to sell the current L2 and just offer the longer tube and OP reflector as add-on items. I think part of him wants to just drop this L2 and move on the XHP version. I certainly donā€™t want to slow him down on that project but it would be a real shame to scrap the current L2. I really like it. There is so much aluminum there to absorb heat itā€™s just begging for power. In my testing last night after 5 minutes my XinTD was warm but the L2 was just as cool as the second I turned it on. Yeah itā€™s not pushed very hard stock but still I see a lot of potential here. I have a host being sent to a friend who will put some power behind it. Iā€™m really looking for some feedback from someone with modding skills.

IMHO, another critical change that Simon has to make is to make the pill accepts 21mm driver instead of the 17mm one.

It is easy to fit a 17mm in a 21mm opening (i.e. using a contact board or something), but it is very difficult to fit a 21mm buck driver ā€œinā€ a 17mm opening.

This is why we had so much troubles to find a high current buck driver for the 1405, until Richard came out with something excellent.

Damn. hate you convoy!
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Yesā€¦ I did buy the L2. :bigsmile: :party: 0:)

Just submitted the order for the L2 host, along with 1 blue S2+ host, and blue and red pairs of shorty adapters Smile. Thanks!!

I think youā€™ll be quite happy with all of them. The short tubes are perfectly machined and work like a charm. I bought one of each color too. :bigsmile: I canā€™t wait for the clip. That for me is whatā€™s really going to make the shorty a great EDC light. And Iā€™ve already said it but it bears repeating. I love the new L2. Itā€™s built like a tank.

This host looks excellent. The only draw back I can see is the 17mm driver opening. IMHO I think it should be 22mm, this would give much better driver options.

bibihang, Richard has the high current 17mm MTN-MAX driver? It can still handle big currents & has been tested to withstand lots of stress tests. The 22mm version is probably better, but Iā€™m not sure if its necessary?

I think its important that Simon makes sure that thereā€™s enough height in the driver cavity for the driver to fit - the inductor takes up some space.

For single cell as it is now, the 17mm driver is perfect - lots of options, but of course I only want a FET+1 anyway. But yes, for 2-3 cell options, the bigger driver is almost a definite.

Ohh btw - Simon gave me 15% off the entire order Wink.

Wish I could jury rig an e-switch in this light though - would be perfect for my new 45/85 e-switch firmware (in here: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/34900). I always preferred e-switch's, but now, it's a whole new realm with almost all the bells and whistles, and room to add even more features. Just give me a side mounted switch with 2 wires hanging off of it in the pill, and I'll be happy.