- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

Yes, I complained.
I like Banggood. They are very quick to ship. This last order for some reason took a month, others have been arriving in 8 or 9 days.

I got the boost drivers in mine too. That was really what I was hoping for.

One of the other lights I swapped out the LB and installed a Nichia 219C on Noctigon, direct drive!
All I can say is WOW.
Draws 3A on my Radio Shack 14500. That 219C is my new favorite emitter.

The LB emitter I got has the same intense blue hue. It honestly looks like just a bright blue led. Thanks for posting that comparison pic. It’s 100% accurate.

Your observations and what you got are the same as my previous experiences. All of mine works with AA and 14500.
I found that most cost effective upgrade is to replace the LB LED with XP-G2 R5s from FT (at about $1.5). They can noticeably improve the brightness and significantly improve the tint. With the 1.6A driver, the R5 can easily achieve more than 100 (LED) lm with AA. It can achieve about 400 to 500 (LED) lm (from my home made IS) with 14500 but I am not sure if it can be used for long time due to heat dissipation. I don’t know how dchomak can keep it running at 3A.

Not sure how long I have had this light. Appears to have a fake XP-G2. Sorry for the lousy camera phone shots. Die is a bit off center. The gold stuff appears much more like cree silver when the emitter is surrounded by a reflector.

That is an odd one as there appears to be no visible bond wires.

Not a Cree fake, just a different brand. Samsung
Listed correctly here;

http://www.tmart.com/Ultrafire-6810-Samsung-High-lights-White-Light-LED-Flashlight-Black-1-18650_p273964.html
This light comes with many different names but all seem to use the same emitter.
Have a few and they work good.

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Actually, if it is marketed as a Cree, it's a Cree fake. The tint seems decent and it might be a pretty nice emitter maybe, but it's still different than advertised.

EDIT: Can you specify what Samsung LED this is? I looked at a few and they seem much nicer looking than this emitter.

DBSAR,

Yeah. It seems more like a Nichia 219C below the dome. It does look a lot like a xpg2 at a casual glance though. Actually, I had to look real close to see that it wasn't

Ordered Sipik sk98 from eBay. Stated cree xml t6… opened it to check it out… got a counterfeit junk.

the die even looks like one of the four dies from a XHP50. As mentioned above it could be a Samsung LH351Z, (a 3535 type)>> Electronic Components and Parts Search | DigiKey Electronics

Is this the emitter you 2 are thinking of?

Maybe mine is a fake Samsung being marketed as a Cree.

Samsung LH351Z, (a 3535 type)>> http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/lh351z-series/46593

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I just don't see how my emitter above is the same as that one. The gold stuff in mine is like badly applied gold leaf. Image from Samsung site.

Maybe that’s what happens after it gets hot?

There does look like there is a crack in the silicone dome coating over the gold parts, (on each side in your photo) though it shares many of the features of the Samsung. (including the square corner, the die design, etc.) unless Latticebright or some other copy manufacturer is now even building fakes of Samsung 3535 LEDs.

As paranoia sets in……………… :smiley:

There is one good thing about all these fakes though, the uninformed can’t just go out a buy a cheap, great light. You actually have to know what you’re doing. Whether it’s building or just plain buying.

“Oh, you bought that light off the internet? I have one just like it, let me show you mine” :wink:

Banggood has responded to my complaint about the LB ’68 lights that I recieved. First someone responded by email and asked that I send a video! This after I had already sent a picture comparing a CREE Q5 vs their light with the LB. I did not respond to that email, come on, a VIDEO? Really?

A couple of days later another response, this time from someone claiming to be a “professional” asking more intelligent questions. That one I responded to and in a polite manner and “educated” him as to what is going on with the descriptions on their site vs what is actually shipped.
Perhaps we will see some progress concerning these issues.

google (images) Samsung 3535

They are supposed to be very decent leds (but I never tested any)

I have a version from Banggood which I asked to review (to ensure non lattice bright). After burning myself on 10+ of those crap garbage, I am more cautious now. Hopefully, the ‘meco’ one from banggood will be good alternatives!It will arrive in about 2 weeks time.

Just 20 posts ago I wrote about what I got from Banggood. MECO + LB

But don’t blame LatticeBright for all the fakes… The LED in the Meco’s above looks not like all the other LB’s. Latticebright has the phosphor only on the chip same way as the imitated Cree model. The ones with the phosphor all around under the dome could be from another, even worse faker.