Well, I'm all bout side switch's for sure now. I got the lock-out feature built in the 85 firmware now, so it's a lot more secure (I'm using this lock-out feature every day now). For DIY modding pleasures, it's sooooo much better to have a switch mounted in the housing with just 2 wires hanging out into the pill, like a SRK. Much better driver options this way. If Simon had a host with both side switch and tail switch, best of both worlds, to name a few: Yezl Y3, Eagle Eye X6R, UranusFire 818, Convoy L4 (Simon's), Warsun X60 and their re-branded equals, etc.
Also (I think) that type of housing mounted switch should hold up much better. I've had a couple of driver mounted switch's fail on me - they were repairable, but still... They have to take a lot of force, and for the types where just 2 soldered joints are holding it down, besides two thru hole plastic pins, it shouldn't last long by design. There are, of course, better designs and poorer designs. The SolarStorm SC0n series of lights have a tab on top of the switch that extends into a slot in the pill top, so you have a much better secure mount that can take more force.
What I did was submit the order with a message, asking for the discount. Then Simon updates the price of that order.. Then you pay. On Ali, the order can be made, then you can pay for it at a later time.
This is pretty much the response I expected to hear about the decision to cancel the side switch. Halo, buddy if it makes you feel better you are the first person I was sad for when Simon told me that. :_( Youāve been screaming for a side switch since I said ānew L2ā. I donāt think there is any need for a poll. For what itās worth I just sent Simon one final message on behalf of āthe little switch that should have beenā. I told him that I announced the details of the new light and every comment I got about the switch removal was sadness. I made it very clear that BLF does not agree with this decision. Iām not going to beat a dead horse if he holds his ground but one last shout form āthe voice of the peopleā canāt hurt. I canāt say whether or not it will change his mind but I started doing this for Simon because he needed a way to speak to BLF just as much as I thought he needed to hear the voice of BLF. I put equal value on praising the good stuff as I do telling him when we donāt like something. Iāll still own the new light when it comes out but Iāll be just a little happier if this new light has a side switch. Iāll keep you all posted.
There are lots of lights that use 2x cells that do not have a side switch. - If the ānewā Convoy L2 doesnāt have ābothā switches, then I would not be interested in buying one. - The light is just too large to work with one hand without a side switch.
Glad you enjoyed! I broke my vow and sent him another message. I forwarded your comment and a handful of others. I told him Iāll stop after this but felt he should know what his own fans are saying! Iām calling it quits for now. Good night all. Simonās going to read all my emails tonight and wonder if he should block my email account .
Tthe UranusFire 818 is a diamond in the rough. With a few design changes, it would be a awesome flashlight. It just gets no love or respect around here because of its unfortunate name.
Yeah well, getting back to the L2, with out the 2x26650 additional tube |( , I wonāt be buying any more, (I like having options) I have a L2 and a Host coming, Iāll get rid of the L2 and make the host the way I want. With the 2x26650 tube, I would have bought a few more, that aināt happening now, I have enough single cells and lady lights already :Sp
Agreeā¦ a light so heavy (and long if multi-cell) is not practical to operate via a clicky. Also, as mentioned, best of both worlds, why not? Iām all for the side switch, PLEASE! What does Simon mean by āside switch is no good for DIYā. Can we get clarity on this, because then we can clearly understand why he does not like the e-switch?! So, if the DIYers want a side switch, how can it not be good for DIY
Maybe something is getting lost in translation since English isnāt Simonās first language? Maybe heās confusing switch mounted on driver, not a driver that has wires going to a side mounted switch?
Personally I like e-switch. If itās mounted on the driver I will just design one to fit that light specifically, it can have any functionality I like, as long as its a good quality switch. If itās wired to the body then even better. Ever since getting the X6R Iām hooked on e-switch lights.
Well, many e-switch lights have the switch mounted on the driver itself (as most of you know). Maybe he means if he does that, it wouldnāt be good for a āDIY hostā because the driver wouldnāt be included?
And I imagine itās overall a more time consuming design to produce, thus being more expensive.
Just a button with 2 wires coming out would work fine and not get in the way. The Solarforce M9 has this and it can just be wired to 2 of the attiny pins if needed, there is a thread on it somewhere. A driver mounted switch would be a bit harder to mod.
Guess what friendsā¦ Simon heard us. I had a little heart-to-heart with him and explained what BLF was saying. He is going āback to the drawing boardā. We will have our side switch. It should be a dual switch like the L4. Thanks for all the responses. It gave me just the leverage I needed to make him understand. :bigsmile: Go TEAM BLF!
He explained that the biggest reason for getting rid of the side switch was that he couldnāt find a good XHP70 driver with side switch. The LDCH manufactory said that there were some problem with the driver because the temperature was so high. Itās going to push the new design back a little but we should have our wish. Good experienced advice with this specific issue would be appreciated so feel free to either post here or PM me with suggestions. Maybe we can help Simon resolve the issue. I donāt have experience with LDCH drivers but I know some of you do. He has to work within certain parameters and unlike many of us he canāt just buy his drivers from Mountain Electronics. He does want our input it just takes a little effort sometimes to make him understand. Once he realized what the majority of us wanted he thanked us for the input and heās working on resolving the driver issue. He truly does respect his friends at BLF a lot. This is good stuff!
Again, I found the driver mounted switch's less reliable - they break. Of course depends on the switch design, but if the switch allows the user to directly apply force further in than the mechanical switch engages in the full down position, the driver mounted switch's usually only are attached to the board with no support on top.
I have to say, it amazing how responsive Simon is. Even though it will be more work for him considering he doesnāt currently have of a good XHP70 side switch driver and needs to find one.
I canāt say whether or not it will change his mind but I started doing this for Simon because he needed a way to speak to BLF just as much as I thought he needed to hear the voice of BLF. I put equal value on praising the good stuff as I do telling him when we donāt like something. Iāll still own the new light when it comes out but Iāll be just a little happier if this new light has a side switch. Iāll keep you all posted.
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