Convoy L2...Guess who's back???

This is pretty much the response I expected to hear about the decision to cancel the side switch. Halo, buddy if it makes you feel better you are the first person I was sad for when Simon told me that. :_( Youā€™ve been screaming for a side switch since I said ā€œnew L2ā€. I donā€™t think there is any need for a poll. For what itā€™s worth I just sent Simon one final message on behalf of ā€œthe little switch that should have beenā€. I told him that I announced the details of the new light and every comment I got about the switch removal was sadness. I made it very clear that BLF does not agree with this decision. Iā€™m not going to beat a dead horse if he holds his ground but one last shout form ā€œthe voice of the peopleā€ canā€™t hurt. :smiley: I canā€™t say whether or not it will change his mind but I started doing this for Simon because he needed a way to speak to BLF just as much as I thought he needed to hear the voice of BLF. I put equal value on praising the good stuff as I do telling him when we donā€™t like something. Iā€™ll still own the new light when it comes out but Iā€™ll be just a little happier if this new light has a side switch. Iā€™ll keep you all posted.

Hi,

There are lots of lights that use 2x cells that do not have a side switch. - If the ā€œnewā€ Convoy L2 doesnā€™t have ā€œbothā€™ switches, then I would not be interested in buying one. - The light is just too large to work with one hand without a side switch.

Iā€™m only being honestā€¦ - Thank you.
-Chuck

Thanks Chuck. I appreciate your input. :beer:

Thank you!

The Beer was good;-)
-Chuck

:smiley: Glad you enjoyed! I broke my vow and sent him another message. I forwarded your comment and a handful of others. I told him Iā€™ll stop after this but felt he should know what his own fans are saying! Iā€™m calling it quits for now. Good night all. Simonā€™s going to read all my emails tonight and wonder if he should block my email account :wink: .

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The very Last thing that Simon needs to do, is to stop talking to you!

But, Iā€™m sure that you both know that :slight_smile:

Thanks for all that you both do for us!

Have a good night!
-Chuck

Tthe UranusFire 818 is a diamond in the rough. With a few design changes, it would be a awesome flashlight. It just gets no love or respect around here because of its unfortunate name.

Yeah well, getting back to the L2, with out the 2x26650 additional tube |( , I wonā€™t be buying any more, (I like having options) :wink: I have a L2 and a Host coming, Iā€™ll get rid of the L2 and make the host the way I want. With the 2x26650 tube, I would have bought a few more, that ainā€™t happening now, I have enough single cells and lady lights already :Sp

Agreeā€¦ a light so heavy (and long if multi-cell) is not practical to operate via a clicky. Also, as mentioned, best of both worlds, why not? Iā€™m all for the side switch, PLEASE! What does Simon mean by ā€œside switch is no good for DIYā€. Can we get clarity on this, because then we can clearly understand why he does not like the e-switch?! So, if the DIYers want a side switch, how can it not be good for DIY :wink:

Maybe something is getting lost in translation since English isnā€™t Simonā€™s first language? Maybe heā€™s confusing switch mounted on driver, not a driver that has wires going to a side mounted switch?

Personally I like e-switch. If itā€™s mounted on the driver I will just design one to fit that light specifically, it can have any functionality I like, as long as its a good quality switch. If itā€™s wired to the body then even better. Ever since getting the X6R Iā€™m hooked on e-switch lights.

Well, many e-switch lights have the switch mounted on the driver itself (as most of you know). Maybe he means if he does that, it wouldnā€™t be good for a ā€œDIY hostā€ because the driver wouldnā€™t be included?

And I imagine itā€™s overall a more time consuming design to produce, thus being more expensive.

Just a button with 2 wires coming out would work fine and not get in the way. The Solarforce M9 has this and it can just be wired to 2 of the attiny pins if needed, there is a thread on it somewhere. A driver mounted switch would be a bit harder to mod.

Guess what friendsā€¦ Simon heard us. I had a little heart-to-heart with him and explained what BLF was saying. He is going ā€œback to the drawing boardā€. We will have our side switch. It should be a dual switch like the L4. Thanks for all the responses. It gave me just the leverage I needed to make him understand. :bigsmile: Go TEAM BLF!

He explained that the biggest reason for getting rid of the side switch was that he couldnā€™t find a good XHP70 driver with side switch. The LDCH manufactory said that there were some problem with the driver because the temperature was so high. Itā€™s going to push the new design back a little but we should have our wish. Good experienced advice with this specific issue would be appreciated so feel free to either post here or PM me with suggestions. Maybe we can help Simon resolve the issue. I donā€™t have experience with LDCH drivers but I know some of you do. He has to work within certain parameters and unlike many of us he canā€™t just buy his drivers from Mountain Electronics. He does want our input it just takes a little effort sometimes to make him understand. Once he realized what the majority of us wanted he thanked us for the input and heā€™s working on resolving the driver issue. He truly does respect his friends at BLF a lot. This is good stuff!

Again, I found the driver mounted switch's less reliable - they break. Of course depends on the switch design, but if the switch allows the user to directly apply force further in than the mechanical switch engages in the full down position, the driver mounted switch's usually only are attached to the board with no support on top.

I have to say, it amazing how responsive Simon is. Even though it will be more work for him considering he doesnā€™t currently have of a good XHP70 side switch driver and needs to find one.

I wouldnt include the side switch on the driver board at all, a remote switch and 2 wires will be better

Yeah, my L2 is on its way to me :D.

About the driver for that new monster. What about a FET (+1) driver from Richard? I believe there has to be some changes made to let our current FET (+1) driver work with 6V leds.

And dont forget to give Simon a big THANKS on behalf of BLF! Seriously the way he listens to us is just exceptional.

Thank you Simon!

Well, maybe it's bout time he looks into cutting a deal with Richard. I'd love to see one of Richard's driver in there, then we can re-program it as we see fit Wink. Certainly Simon could get the drivers made over there cheaper, just like with the A6 driver being sold by BangGood now. Heck, he can use my e-switch firmware is he wants to.

Looks like the A6 driver has been removed, just did a search