To be fair, I would say that ‘The Miller’ does know that. 
Maybe the problem comes from the fact that the Dutch source text is a blog from me, it was not written as a forum post.
I have to add that the only reason I dared dving into this flashlight hobby that crept up on me is AE.
There are about 17 torches on their way to me and without the dispute possibility I would have never ordered these.
I stayed clear from the 11-11 deals since I saw prices rise before that so sellers could advertise with huge discounts.
Sure I can appreciate that members here know a thing or three about China shops, a lot of the people who find us via Google (and BLF seems like the best place when googling for info) may not.
Now that would be much more interesting subject for us to read.
You can delete that promo for Aliexpress and write what you ordered and why, maybe add a image or two for each light, then we could discuss if your decision was right or what you can do to make some particular flashlight better/more powerful or just how to fix annoying next mode memory (common mistake of uninformed buyers) 
Oh yeah! I can’t wait to get my hands on them and start reviewing.
OK here we go, let me show you what is ordered.
There actually are a little more then 1 I just saw.
It is in the chronological order of orders.
Again let me stress, it is about the fun of testing them, a nice theme for some youtube videos for the to be created channel of my son and me. We gotten lights we liked and if the housing is OK they present a good posibility for modding, which in turn gives us an ideal learning option. If they are bad, I will be having me some disputes.
Also don’t be afraid, Panasonic cells and Digicharger D4 and XTAR single cell charger are underways. As is an decent multimeter.
I have shed some light on why and how in my introduction yesterday, but that is a long post. So do not dismiss me right away when looking over this list please.
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We like the looks and build-in diffuser of this strange zoomie
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A C8 clone with cheap LED probably nice foundation for some modding.
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A standard Concoy C8 as reference for testing of the rest.
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And a brownish thingy with zoom
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another golden skywolfeye for grabs
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Our absolute favorite when it comes to looks of all I ordered is this skywolfeye
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A pattern emerges, we like the brownish/bronze color over the military looking black ones
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Nice color on the housing of this light
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SkyRayKing, looks like a little monster, had to order one
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we liked the looks and size of this skywolfeye
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This one I ordered for 14.44, I really like the magnet and rotatable light head
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Nice little thing with magnet and i like the LEDtrip on the side
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Very cheap skywolfeye
Got this model twice, they both are planned to be given als gift to friends of my son (brothers so no problems posed by different torches of course with a triple AAA cell holder.
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Skywolfeye, only $8.09 when i ordered it
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A small one in strange colors from skywolfeye
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MECO zoomie, just liking the looks of it
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So a lot of experience posts (then written for this section) with presumably some or a lot of dispute progression will follow and hopefully make for some interesting reading.
Good Day The Miller, 
Welcome to BLF. 
Btw, LOVE your home in France.
Looking forward to your experiences.
Best Regards,
George
And I’m not picky about whether AE is a ‘dealer’ or not since they act much in the same way by channeling all the important transaction stuff through their own set-up. One could argue that ‘drop-shippers’ (GB and many others do this) are not ‘dealers’ either but I think most folks consider AE or GB or DX to be a ‘dealer’ too.
Of all these “Chinese Mega-stores”, the only one I’m aware of with buyer protection is AE. Can you imagine GB doing that? They’d be broke in a couple days 
I bought my BLF Maxtoch through them and they actually held my payment until I notified them that I had received it and was happy with the transaction. IMHO that’s going a bit too far but in the right direction regardless.
I do business with them all, but I have no expectations of great service, fast shipping, or decent packing from any of them. So far I haven’t been disappointed because that’s what I get from them all with few exceptions (such as my Maxtoch for one).
Thanks for the review “The Miller”,
Phil
I ordered a fenix batterie case from aliexpress two month ago. Got the information that it was shipped quickly. I got the e-mail that I could start a dispute if it had not arrived within two month. Pressed the button, that I want the money back. According to the FAQ I have to wait now 20 days and see if I get my money back.
That’s my first experience:
Ordered 1
received 0
money back: waiting and hoping
Nice and easy to deal with, but would be nicer if things would arrive.
Looks like a paid post…
Aliexpress as a platform is fine, not all sellers are great though. from my 11/11 purchases about 35% are missing and it has been more than a month now. had to extend the purchase protection and I don’t know whether the seller (!) will agree to this? why can the seller disagree to extend the protection if they might not have shipped the goods in the first place? strange.
Yes it does.
I have bought plenty of stuff from AE. AE offer alot to choose from but have some obvious disadvantages:
1. A lot of fake products and bad shops (but there are some really good sellers there too)
2. No support for Paypal
3. Sellers often use different shipment methods than advertised
Well its not paid.
I updated and got rid of the “very good” in the title (read like an advertisement I understand)
Also added a list of pro and cons that reflect my experience and well it seems pretty clear that it is not perfect.
Thank you “The Miller” for helpful info about AE. I am new here and have found several flashlight reviews that helped me to decide what my purchases will be. HOWEVER, I was lost when trying to make a comfortable transaction without knowing “anything at all” about the process. I also rely heavily on Paypal for peace-of-mind. I finally PM’d sb56637 to inquire about AE and exactly how ordering takes place, or to learn what I could. sb56637 politely directed me to this forum which led me to your post.
I am now at last starting to learn some interesting things which appears to be a big part of purchasing products (AE) that I am reading about on this excellent website BLF.
I will be reading more posts to glean anything that helps me make a good buying decision, and would like to thank you again for taking the time to educate those not yet familiar with some of the forums linked retailers. I had a heck of a time trying to find out just what AE is and why different vendors links redirected me to AE. I now understand.
Now if I can just find the post that diagrams the different flashlight choices available for a particular need. It would be similar to the all-familiar “trouble-shooting diagram” (in high tech electrical equipment manuals) which gives a choice of yes/no trail for each particular function, and all you do is keep following the trail until you end up with the most-likely problem component. If it already exists in this forum I will gladly donate some hard earned cabbage to the author for the extreme amount of time it would take to not only write it, but to keep it updated. I also understand completely that most purchases are made on the opinions of others, but a valued members opinion is still valued! With that said, a good diagram would have several results in each function category directly relating to best choice (generally higher cost) and best value.
In other words, I guess people call it “A MAGIC BUTTON”. But from what I have been reading over many hours on BLF before joining up to learn more, I realize there is an answer for probably anything someone wants to know. It is in BLF somewhere I believe, but how do you find it without reading endless threads? I look forward to a response with the link to the magic diagram.
Anyone reading this I ask to take with a grain of salt, and keep in mind I will be a newbie for some time. 
Cheers
My experiences with AE are pretty much inline with the OP. Many great bargains but if you have a problem you have to ship the item back at your expense which often costs more than the item did originally. They usually give very clear and detailed photos of their items so you have a good idea of what you are going to get.
I’ve ordered three items through AE dealers and they’ve all been positive. All of them arrived within a month. There are some dealers on AE who will accept Paypal but as you know, not a lot. All of the dealers I ordered through accepted Paypal.
A couple of weeks ago I ordered another item from a dealer that did not accept Paypal. I had to pay with a credit card. I received an e-mail stating that they had received my payment but nothing since then. I realize that they’ve been closed for Chinese New Year but I hope this order goes as well as the other three.
As long as you an prove the items are not as depited or described no shipping back is involved.
When you decline the sellers solution of refund after shipping back the dispute escalates and you get to tell your story again.
AE will give a number of solutions to choose from (generally option A refund and shipping back option B partial refund no shipping back)
And then agina you can provide evidence and tell your story.
I have had 1 dispute over a crappy flashlight set with charger and cell for $15
Seller wanted items back then refund.
I escalated
AE said, option 1 partial refund $5 no shipping back option 2 shipping back full refund
(at this point I could clearly prove the charger and cell to be rubish
I responded that the flashlight could be bought for 6 so getting only 5 back would still be a bad deal for me.
Seller responded, goods are good, shipping back and then refund
Then I removed the plastic reflector spacer and found a LB star, made a picture uploaded it, asked for full refund without shipping back, since I now could prove also the flashlight was not as described.
AE decided I would get a full refund no shipping back.
Just make sure you can prve what you claim.
I had an issue with a couple of pairs of golf shoes, they were listed as “extra wide” fit but when they arrived they were just a standard width. I complained to the seller and he said the shoes were extra wide, just not marked. A quick check revealed the manufacturer didn’t make an extra wide size so I contacted AE. End result was that I was instructed to return the shoes and get a full refund. I informed them that the return post cost from Australia was over $60 so not a viable option, the seller refused to pay return shipping and referred me to the conditions on the item sale page. I contacted AE another three times and the best I could do was to get a partial refund of $20, the shoes cost $120.
This is gold. Clearly a promo-post. Any fool could ascertain that from the first paragraph or two.
No matter how much the OP disputes this fact.
I was approached years ago to promote an air rifle manufacturer on an international airgun forum. I have been in to them since I was old enough for my parents to buy me my first one. Still am. The OP is a template for a promo post. “Don’t forget to throw in some negatives, so it looks legit”.
I never participated. Never sold out my hobby. But I did drop my favourite manufacturer, and their products, after their approach.
I sincerely apologise of this post IS legit. But from my experience - it is not.
Magila, that is awful. I do not buy clothes if I cannot touch them after some disappointments. I did order some shirts on AE, but my son of 11 wears them, that big of a size difference.
HereAgainandAgain, apologies accepted since I did not write this as promotional post nor do I have any affiliation with AE or a shop there.
AE has a buyer protection policy that allows you to keep the item and receive a full refund for items that are proved to be not genuine but only if the seller has tagged the item with the guaranteed genuine symbol, a capitol “G” in a shield. I have been buying off AE for about 3 years and are yet to see one seller tag his items as genuine.
Yes I know, so when filing a dispute, do not use the “not genuine product” tag but “product not as described”. This is a trick of sellers, AE will indeed check if the G is there and if not the claim is less likely to turn in your favor.
However, “not as described” and then proving it is not genuine has made AE change the dispute from “not as described” to “counterfeit good received” a couple of times for me.
I also will update the OP because clothes are indeed a no go unless you hav a kid running around who is able to wear them, thanks for that input