Keygos KE-1 vs KE-2 vs KE-5

Now you know why I like the TR-1200. I'm guessing that thing puts out very close to 900 lumens.

Just did a tailcap reading on the KE-1 with Tenergy 2600mah charged to 4.1V: 2.5A. Still pulling some 2.2A on a half discharged cell at 3.9V.

Any chance of please showing the first GOOD KE-5 you got? I meant the good bits inside so we know what to look for? Then if it is not the same we can run away. Possibly to save you dismantling you can copy and paste from the photos in the review links I have posted above. Maybe from here: http://www.jayki.com/13146

ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS Is this your GOOD KE-5 brass pill you are talking about?:

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/4305 #9

Also please remember this is all new to me so I am clueless in your terminology.

Thanks again!

No that is just like the second one I got.

I took a picture so you can see for yourself. The first Keygos(brighter version) is on the left. Also on the first one I have there is a teflon spacer added over the XM-L led. I like it a lot better for screwing and unscrewing the head.

Here's a closer up shot of the pill on the brighter 1st Keygos KE-5. I can't really read the letters or numbers.

And I will try and show you the difference of the teflon spacer on the first version vs the 2nd w/o it.

My 2nd Keygos KE-5 looks just like this. Notice the white thermal paste underneath the emitter board.

look like rebranded ultrafire driver from the u-80

Ok this is redlog's picture on ebay that he shows. Now remember I'm not telling you guys to buy this light from him because my second one sucks compared to the first one. But this picture is exactly what my first one looked like up top.

And I hope this helps those who had questions.

And actually what I called a teflon spacer is actually probably a spacer made out of delrin. On the 2nd version, that little cheap white plastic spacer just pops over the led.

So basically the shitty light has a coil spring in the pill and also has a grease stuck down black emitter board with a small white cover around the LED emitter.

The good light has a flat brass connector in the pill and a wider white cover around LED emitter. Correct?

Yep.

The second one I got isn't really bad. It just gets blown away by the first one. I would opt for a good Ultrafire C8 XM-L before I bought another Keygos KE-5 like the last one I got.

Are you talking about the Keygos KE-1 or / and KE-2 that look like C8?

Or are you saying the Ultrafire C8 XM-L T6 (1200 / 1300 or even now the 1600 lumen) off eBay?

I'm not telling you what to buy. But I am telling you I myself would spend my $25 on a brighter light rather than buy a Keygos KE-5 like the last one I bought.

I believe you have numerous flashlights and are experienced in this subject so I value your knowledge and advice. I understand you have most of the flashlights I am interested in, so your opinion is welcomed.

I am interested in the original Ultrafire C8 at the highest lumen. DealeXtreme quote I think a Cree XM-L T6, C8 1200 lumen. But I have seen similar unknown Cree XM-L T6, in C8s knocking around with stupid claims of between 1000 to 1600 lumen. However after reading your first good reviews about Keygos, I wanted to compare these against the other high power 18650 single cells.

As you seem to have a variety of the interesting Keygos, plus also C8, then I highly regard your recommendations. Thanks again!

Many Ultrafire flashlights are simply rebranded. Even Ultrafire states that they are ready to offer OEM for anyone asking. So of course some rebranding companies, will care about the circuits, some not, some will ask for a lower quality product, other ask for a better quality product, even better than the original (eg.XinTD C8).

Here are some XM-L tests : https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/2346

So you can have peace of mind regarding the output.

You can also look @ CREE's rating for the XM-L T6, they have never stated 1000 lumens. They say 910-975 lumens @ 3000mA.

Chris,

I would probably suggest you find out where most folks are getting the best driven Ultrafire C8 from. Some guys say Kaidoman is a good place to buy it from. The one I got I bought from perotan on ebay. It's not bad. But it too could be brighter.

You might try this one.

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/xintd-c8-900-lumens-t6-multi-modes-flashlight-p-211.html

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I wait like you in anticipation of your XinTD C8, and hope you will share your opinion and give comparison especially against the other Keygos.

So if the KE-5 throws further than the KE-2, then the KE-5 must be brighter and more powerful and so more lumens. Correct?

As you I would want the best from the flashlight, but I don’t know anything about ‘modding’ (modded) so I will have to find a thread of that later.

You say the KE-5 get’s ‘Hot’. I read somewhere that the heat transport was glued not screwed. Is this heat a big problem?

I do intend to have the flashlight on FULL for 3+ hours at a time, but for outdoor use. Will this be a problem, either modded or not?

Is a typical C8 good build quailty? Is aluminium pill good or bad?

Thanks!