DiscoveryBargain.com is now hotdealings.com.
click to see for yourself: www.discoverybargain.com
At first glance, I dont see any pricing differences. Do you?
You're right, FlashPilot; the prices are the same. Which reminds me, a couple weeks ago I noticed that DB had two different prices for the Ganzo G704. Here are the two HotDealings links:
$17.90 http://www.hotdealings.com/product/HT004567S/Ganzo_Folding_Knife_-_G704_(Silver)_31098.html
$15.99 http://www.hotdealings.com/product/HT00474S/Ganzo_Folding_Knife_-_G704_(Silver)_31098.html
I haven't ordered either one, but $16 is a decent price for a G704, and I like the one I got from ExDuct. Also, I don't think that "HotDealings" rolls off the tongue very well.
I don't think it's a great choice of name either, but I guess that's the reality of doing business in China. Get big enough and sell enough potentially questionable stuff (sex toys, lasers, knives, RE magnets, you name it) and you're bound to have PP disputes roll in before you know it. Add to that their weird way of handling orders, not to mention the pointless address mangling, and you've got some explaining to do. At that point, you can either try to clean up your act or you close up shop, rename the place which isn't a lot of work since they still have the whole shop and backend in place and start over. There are some HK-based shops that have gone through five or six reincarnations because it's easier.
Oh, and about the G704: that could simply be an oversight. Or they're selling the new and the old version but forgot to update the specs.
I just received a new Ganzo G704 from Exduct. I had my choice of the old or new version. I think it was a dollar more. While it certainly is a cool looking knife, every single SRM and Enlan I own completely blow it away in materials & workmanship. IMO, the 704 is akin to most of the junky knives you'll find at DX or MF... etc. Maybe Enlan will copy it some day and make it what it should have been in the first place.
I ordered lots of stuff from them and found their service to be reliable.I received everything I ordered from them, faster than DX extreme .Their website leaves much to be desired, and they keep jacking the prices on their popular sellers.Every seller could do better in some ways, but DB gets and OK in my books.
They have not been able to accept Paypal payments for the last 24 hours.
Yesterday I ordered a knife from "hotdealings", but wasn't able to pay via PayPal, since their account seems to be suspended.
Today I've noticed that the titlebar didn't say "hotdealings" anymore, but "hoursbuy" ... they've changed their name again, this time to hoursbuying.com.
So I went to the new site, was able to log into my HD account and pay for my order.
PayPal accepted the payment, but it says: "The recipient of this payment is unregistered"
Well, now I'm curious, how this will go ...
Maybe it got too "hot" for Discoverybargain and they are changing their name "hourly" now.
I ordered 2 knives from hotdealings and they were tracked to have left HK on 11/11/2011.
Is that really true because I have seen many videos on YouTube and read many reviews and I was about to buy Ganzo G704 but after your post I hesitate.
Others here have commented in other threads that share my observations, and these knives are cheap enough to buy several. My suggestion is to buy a few and compare for yourself. If you dont have a selection of better knives to compare to the G704, you will never know what you are missing.
Sigh.
They now have a banner at the top of every page that says: "Dear Honored customer, After a long time painful consideration, We decide to accept payment by credit card instead of Paypal, so sorry for inconvenience caused; Besides, in order to bring you the safe purchasing experience, we will install Secure socket layer(SSL) to protect your payment privacy. Wish you happy purchasing on hotdealings.com and thank you for you support in advance.
Yours sincerely
Hotdeailngs team"
I am certainly no fan of Paypal's but at least their website works, which is more than I can say for a lot of other CC processing platforms Chinese sites like to use (Aliexpress, I am looking at you, too). Besides, I really don't feel like spending hours on the phone with my credit card company, just because some random site got compromised.
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Slowly but surely discoverybargain/hotdealings/hoursbuying does deserve an "AVOID"-label. Constant company name change. A system that forgets half the shipping address, sometimes ultra-long shipping times (45+ days) and now the lack of PP buyers protection. Yep... "AVOID" indeed.
Most of the Navy knives have gone and there is only one model of Enlan listed now.
I emailed them about that and they replied that they'd bring all their inventory back eventually, which it seems like they're doing now. Still, I can't say I'm too crazy about ordering from them without Paypal's purchase protection.
If it wasn't for the post office, even more orders of mine would have been lost somewhere between here in HK. Going through Paypal when they go incommunicado (which they tend to do), has been really convenient in those cases. I guess I could still threaten a chargeback and go to my credit company, but in any case, I'd rather not give them my credit card number.
Say what you will about Paypal: I don't like them, but Paypal is pretty convenient. It's just that PP and eBay desperately need competition. When the DOJ is done doing whatever they're doing all day long, maybe they could look into that. Yeah, right...
I enter the homepage today and could find a lot of Enlans and Navys.
Seem to be back to hotdealings at least for me. Also their hotdealings site does sort by price (high and low) and new arrivals.
They're processing credit cards directly on their site? Since it mentions they just added SSL I guess so. I agree not something that's wise, at least they could use some generic payment processor even if it's some Chinese one.
Ordered 4 SRM knives from them on the last/prelast day(19.january GMT+2 European time, past midnight 20.january in Chinese time zone) before Chinese New Year (they had info on their web page that all orders that are paid after 20.january will be shipped on 2.february), got no message from them other but automatic order confirmation from paypal.
On 31.january finally got shipping notice, but lo and behold - only 2 out of 4 knives were being shipped, other 2 marked as "unshipped".
Sent message through hoursbuying web page on 31.january, no answer, sent an email yesterday, lets see if they answer till monday/tuesday.
And yes, their webpage, just like buyincoins tend to be offline pretty often FFS :D!
If they dont answer back and explain my situation Im gonna wait till 45 day paypal expiration and then file a claim and get my money back, as simple as that :)
So far they had all the knives for the prices Im willing to pay, lets see if I ever received anything from them :D!
They are no longer taking Paypal payments.