Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2024

Wonder why eneloops are not sold alongside the rayovac, energizer, durecell in most retailers? Or at least a rebranded 2000 mah version?

Might be because most people don't know about them, and therefore sellers are less likely to sell them. With this in mind, they are usually more expensive than other brands outside Japan, that it's difficult to sell them..

Don't know exactly but I thought this could be the case ;)

Yep, marked as spam. Just like your other post. No meaning of posting double, stuff everybody knows already.

Werd, flag away flag boy

All the talk about fakes has me worried about ordering online. What about a trusted source like walmart with their free store pick up like this Robot or human?

I thought the charger was actually a smart charger with individual charging.

Thanks for the explanation. What about just picking up duracells since they would not be fakes?

I have not used Eneloop for a very long time, but is the statement made in this thread (Reply #2) Fresh Eneloop BK-3MCCE/8BE AA / Nimh Review - Quality evaluation

My understanding of the 90% after one year, 70% after 5 years etc just say that if you buy a package and it’s one year old, the batteries has 90% capacity. If you charge the battery, it will have 100% capacity again. And you can recharge it to 100% 2100 times, or 1900 times or what it says on the package? Anything else will be bad practice, if a 5 year old battery, new out of the box, just can be charged to 70% max, all 2100 times.

No, that is not correct guys.

This can actually be found in this thread anyhow. Just read.

Please read again.

You know that you talk to a guy that lived for some time in Japan and is VERY updated on Eneloops. I think you don’t know what you are talking about.

I think there are enough tests here and at CPF that will show what I meant.

What do you mean by "buy first generation eneloop made back in 2009"?
In Japan its very hard to find anything older than 4th generation eneloops, and in Holland I havent seen them anywhere for sale yet (in a street store). And in 2009 we got 2nd gen cells.

There are enought tests, that show that after sitting idle for several years, they came back to full capacity after charging. (or after a break-in/refresh if you like). Here one that had been stored for 3 years http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?412914-Eneloop-5th-Anniversary-GLITTER-AAs-38-month-test

They just confirm the 70% energy left after 10 years, i.e. nothing about the full capacity of the battery, that must be at least 70%, but as know from other testers it is larger.

And do you claim copyright on a Panasonic email?

  • Capacity
  • Charge
  • Energy

Unfortunately, these terms always get mixed up. Almost everywhere.

Capacity (Ah) (more exactly: discharge capacity) is how much charge a battery can hold. Like the capacity of a bucket.

Charge (Ah) is how much is actually inside, i.e. how many Ah you can draw from it until it's empty.

Energy (Wh) is, well, energy. Similar to charge, but voltage also taken into account.

If a 2000mAh/2400mWh battery after 10 years has 70% capacity left, it is degraded to a 1400mAh battery.

If it has 70% charge left, then there are still 1400mAh inside, but it could still be a full capacity 2000mAh battery (i.e. one can recharge it an then discharge 2000mAh).

If it has 70% energy left, this means 2400mWh x 0.7 = 1680mWh energy. It says nothing about charge or capacity.

Hello, I purchased these batteries from ebay from the vendor named shopgl, it came in a battery box, not in retail package. I would like to know if they look like genuine eneloops or do they look fake? There is no crown symbol on the batteries. The white line is not present in the batteries, it’s just overexposure of the picture.

They came with a voltage of about 1.35v, the date codes are 15-07 in one, and 15-10 in the other 3. The xtar vc4 charger reports that it charged 698, 895, 925 and 664mAh before termination (I think those numbers are not very reliable). I’m having some issues with the amperimeter mode in my DMM so i can’t test reliably their discharge rate at the moment.

I am not a battery expert. Your batteries look like mine. The positive end with the button is light grey, off white on mine. The latest version of Eneloops do not have a crown symbol printed on the AA size. Sounds like your Eneloops were partially discharged when you charged them hence the low amp reading.

Thank you for responding. I just wanted a quick visual check, so in the case they were fake I would know what to expect of them, as the thread suggested they would have a crown. I already had some eneloops from a 10AA/4AAA pack from Amazon , but as they are a color edition rather than the clear one I could not compare them directly (except in size, weight and voltage).
I believe they are genuine now.

The only lsd battery that is somewhat available locally appears to be the Sony Energy, I don’t think the other locally available batteries (mainly Philips Multilife and budget chinese brands) are lsd.

I have bought eneloops and fujitsu batteries from that ebay seller in the past. They turned out to be good batteries - all were authentic. :slight_smile:

Chibm, are you back selling batteries again ?.