People need to be more grateful, calling out no one in particular. These are by far the best flashlights for the money I have ever purchased. Even with a minor defect or two, these are still a heck of a deal and worth many times the price paid. Nitpicking on thease minor flaws is very discouraging to all the people involved in making this group buy happen.
Dented box corner, small scratches, mismatched serial numbers, why care about any of these pety things. This is one hell of a light for the money.
Ahhh, ok, yes - it's a metal one, but only in 1 of 6 lights, but I had no clue - maybe the alum X6 was supposed to have one.
Soooo, can I politely, possibly ask Neal for a plastic replacement? I could check thru my parts bins first, might have something around to fit or trim to fit.
Oh. It was a long post and I didn’t want to quote the whole thing so I only quoted the beginning. Perhaps “my two cent’s worth after reading the last twenty or so pages” would have been a more appropriate snippet.
Symptom of people being more “on edge” than usual. Like how a light tap usually goes unnoticed but the same tap can hurt if it hits something which is already sore. Common elbow-bumping seems to get bigger responses lately.
Elbow pads (or flameproof pants) and smiles may be of use.
I don’t know what material is used for o-rings, I don’t know if natural rubber is used anywhere, but if it is, a petroleum-based grease is not recommended. If you’d like to use silicone grease on your silicone o-rings, more power to you, but you can expect them to swell and foul your action as well as snap and lose your water seal.
I didn’t mean to come up head to head with you, just figured you were shooting from the hip. If you’d take a few minutes to do some Google Fu, I am confident you will be reminded. Its an easy thing to flip flop. The CPF Comprehensive Lube thread is a unified resource great for the purpose of flashlight thread and o-ring lubrication, but there are plenty of other sources of information backing up my claims regarding compatible lube for the kind of material. Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. But please lets not just naysay each other, kind of pointless.
Fwiw I think there is probably a difference in application between divers needing to seal out water under great pressures and flashaholics needing to seal out water of no or marginal pressure and dust AND have decent lubrication for threaded action. Often, flashaholics will simply remove the o-ring completely, as their need for water seal is minimal but their desire for smooth action is great. Sounds like for diving appliations what you want is a damn tight seal, and in that application, silicone lube works for the purpose. For flashlight o-rings, you won’t want that kind of seal.
Also, galling is simply metals in contact siezing, and can be, is often caused by galvonic corrosion, which is itself caused by a metal, like Fe or Stainless Steel from one batch, corroding in preferential to another, maybe like Cu, or even Stainless Steel with slightly different amounts of its constituents from another batch, when they are in electrical contact, like in a flashlight tube, in the presence of a conducting solution, say, lube, even if a vanishingly small amount.
After checking the tracking about a thousand times… Yay!
These lights are absolutely incredible, worth every penny and more. My youngest kid thinks the little one is for him, as others have said these lights are kid magnets!
Great job guys, you knocked it out of the park.
P.S. The etching for “KRONOS” looks amazing, I like the font too, how the N dips a little below etc. Great little details to enjoy. Thanks again!
Mine arrived today and I got matching serial numbers (both lights and they match the box). I haven’t been keeping up with this thread, but I thought that the tailcap light could be locked out by loosening the tailcap?
How does nitpicking help? If your not happy with your lights, put them up for sale, sure they will sell quickly with no loss to you. Do you realize how many hours have been invested by the Krono Team, Neil, Banggood, and Manker to make this happen. A very high quality light for an excellent price. Don’t know how long youv’e been into Chinese lights but these things are common, nothing new. If this nitpicking continues, this could very well be the last endeavor of this kind. Nobody likes being thanked for all the hard work in this way. I’m done with this conversation.
TK, I wondered about one of your thoughts, and looked, and found some recent science that may be relevant by analogy to the change in the forum.
[because a rapid increase in population combined with many people moving into new territory both allows more deleterious forms to survive (think those who easily slide into harsh words) and also, more importantly, allows the occasional rare new-and-better-than-best forms to appear and flourish rather than disappear in a generation. (think consciously improving — you all doing the design and wrangling)
Human and flashlight evolution may have something analogous going on here. Bigger forum, more people, a few brighter-than-ever lights appear and persist, which is more important than having the muck also a bit deeper around.
If so there’s hope for some of us who resemble the old reptilian fossils to polish up our acts and learn to be more like warm and fuzzy.
The few outstandingly bright and helpful folks who do so much here are great teaching examples of how this can be better.
Seriously? Can you draw a fine line in what is a nit and what is an elephant for every recipient?
Hint: everyone has their own individual tolerance for blemishes on new acquisitions. Every consumer has the right to receive what they have been promised. If this is not what they received, or if the item is broken or damaged to no fault of the consumer, then they have the right to be made whole. This can be achieved with negotiation. Only two people have a right to come up with an agreement that satisfies both. Entering into this conversation with cause is a personal choice and right.
People who are gaming the system know they are. Chastisement isn’t going to change their ways.
If this was a non-profit proposition for all involved (including Manker and BG), then a “best effort” disclaimer could limit the acceptable gripes to DOA or non-functional.