Are we not capable of a little better?

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Agreed 100%

Cheers David

If anyone sees insults, hateful remarks, fighting, please pm Sb Mr.Admin We don’t need that junk here. And Sb is not a fan of it.

Sb has popped into threads to warn people to cut it out. And he has banned people who don’t listen. But members do need to bring it to his attention.

Is it one of the GB threads? Those threads can get so long that I’ve stopped bothering with them if I’m not particularly interested in the GB. I can live without arguing and insults so no big loss. :smiley:

I was not singling out any thread guys I am talking about many threads that end up in nothing but chaos or insults and arguing.

Hmmmm, well, I’ve noticed the exact opposite to what the OP is complaining about. This forum seems to be far more civil than 99% of the Internet, including cpf. Sure, there’s always some disagreement, this is the Internet after all, but I must be missing the flame threads you’re talking about.

Don’t take this the wrong way, but you have not been here that long.

The forum has changed with all the new members joining (partially) due to the group buys.

While the group buys are nice, I miss the old signal to noise ratio we used to have.

First thing imho, affiliate links should be banned from this forum.
1 or more years ago, the forum was much different, now each who has 5 minutes of time, pastes their links even if the same item is cheaper at another vendor.

@bdiddle I agree with you. I have been lurking long before I joined so I understand what you mean…

@koyotee personally fwiw, I do not care about aff links but those people who insists that we should use THEIR aff links are the problem. Why can’t we choose if we wanna use that link or not?

BLF is one of the friendliest forums I have every been on. Many people willing to help other.

If you think it is friendly now, you should’ve seen it a year ago. We are definitely trending down. I don’t like it, but I don’t know what to do about it. Even this thread will probably break out in an argument.

I am not saying there are not friendly folks here at all. What I am saying is that the level of the arguing and direct attacks and all the overall drama has increased lately and I would very much like to see what has escalated drop back down before it does become a big problem is all.

Well we are cheapskates :smiley: and cheapskates help each other! Hehe :wink: But on a more serious note, it’s true. Here at blf we get loads of members welcoming newbies. Over at the other side, only one or two are willing to say hi and give newbies a warm welcome. And being friendly is good for everyone. It’s a win win situation! :slight_smile:

I don’t want this forum to be like the other one. And PD68, I might agree with your statement. The first few months I was here, there was barely any of that cap until recently of the dispute over aff links. From then on the situation got worse.

It not as bad as most forums. I ignore most threads that break down into an argument,people need to PM more if they are going to have a personal discussion.

I do get tired of the "not it" or "I don't know" posts. If I got nothing positive/good to add I just don't say anything. Even this post is a stretch for me.We have had some JackHole members here and they were dealt with quickly.

Over all though, its been a good place.

I have to ask, what does Jack Hole mean?

I have to agree, the influx of people here to count coup has caused a lot of commotion. Sure, it’s great to get things stirred up and grow, but the growing pains are not so great.

I miss some of the people that used to always be here, the insights and willingness to help, the difference they made individually and collectively. ChicagoX, Foy, MattAus, Wight, some folks that made a big difference and were here a lot, even Scaru with his crazy over the top schemes. Everyone laughed when he had boards made for 7 XM-L emitters. Now everyone uses multi-cell without a thought about it at all. Even Old-Lumens has severely cut back and almost left us completely, and EVERYBODY knows he contributed immensely to noobs here.

When we were smaller, we were tighter. Everybody had more of the same interest, improving flashlight modding for the sheer enjoyment of doing so. Now we have a lot of profiteers crashing the party. The party is still on, mind you, but we’re not all in the same room anymore… divided. And that’s the thing that’s sad about it, that spirit of camaraderie that brought us all together.

I have to say, I haven’t been openly cussed before on a forum, EVER, not ANY forum… until recently, right here. And it still has me reeling a bit, the kind of thing that sure enough makes me want to simply leave.

Wrathbringer27, it’s a combination word, a new kind of urban slang combining JackA with A**hole. Not nice at all and very instigating. And unfortunately, the kind of mentality we have coming in these days.

Damn I feel bad for Dale. You’ve been here much longer and you got cussed by a newbie. That’s juz wrong man. I have an idea who it was but I don’t wanna bring that up anymore. I hope the old timeys don’t leave us newbies. Its been a year since I’ve joined the community and I try to respect everyone even if there is a conflict of interests. Heck, sometimes I get a couple of users asking me for opinions due to the conflicts in the forum even though I’m a newbie. I juz don’t get it why there is a need to cuss at all. Everyone here is contributing to the pool of knowledge and some who spot a mistake or disagree with a certain statement gets riled up for no apparent reason.

I know this would sound silly but what about a blf market place that is a sister to this website? so all advertising and group buys go through that website? I am sure blf could make money of that?

That I think would be up to the admin to make a decision on.

Thanks Wrathbringer27, appreciate the thought, but feel for me for more important things, like I’m getting old. :stuck_out_tongue:

Really though, the process made me step back and put a lot of thought into the feelings and impulses involved. I don’t know if people around the world are aware of it, but Texas is now an open carry State. That’s right, people all over the place here now have the right to not only have a gun but wear it openly on their person. So if out and about, and it’s been a bad day, someone suddenly gets in your face with a “F you A**Hole!” Well, that person would die on the spot. That’s the impulse, and having a gun right at hand makes it so easy to happen. Are people aware that there can be that sudden a consequence to their rudeness?

So it made me realize that it’s better to stay away from people that are prone to be that kind of rude, than to be prompted into an impulsive reaction that would have life altering consequences. Am I the only one that gets that? Is our society so far down the path of destruction that once common civility is a thing of the past? I certainly hope that isn’t the case! But I see rudeness on a shocking level literally every day, young and old alike, men and women, all sorts of people, so casually flipping each other off and screaming and hollering at someone from the comparative safety of their car. Modern times, modern stresses, bring a lot of tension even while giving us technological advancements that blow the mind.

Maybe the legalization of marijuana is really a good thing. Obviously there’s a lot of people out there that simply need to chill…

For the record, I don’t carry. I’m getting too old and grumpy to risk letting things get out of hand on a gut reaction. I know, all too well, how easily it can happen though. I’ve had it happen to me. Right up to pulling the trigger, it happens so fast… I didn’t kill anyone, saw what was happening and put a bullet in the ground, but paid a severe price for it nonetheless even though it was really unintentional. So yeah, I KNOW all too well how other people going over the top can influence a chain reaction. Sadly, most just don’t get it.

Be nice. Pay it forward. It’s what makes the world go round and round smooooothly. :wink: