[07-MAR-2016] Current status of BLF upgrade process

G'Day SB,

SB, it is now working, thank you Very Much.

Ooooopssssss, I saw the <Mark Read> button at top left & I pressed it while in this sub-forum, BUT it marked the entire forum including all sub-forums as read.

I assumed it would Only mark the current sub-forum as read (as it did previously).

AFAIK, the only <Mark Read> button that marked the entire forum (including sub-forums) as read was in the "root" forum ie: http://budgetlightforum.com/forum

Is the current behaviour wrong, Or?

Thank you Very Much,

George

I’m for a reasonable limit on quotes. I don’t know what it would take to ‘tile’ them in a stack (click on what you want to see) of to collapse them by default then add an “expand” button to read them.

That’s really been my biggest issue since I signed up here so I’d say you’re doing very well indeed SB.

Phil

I just did a quick test and found that it’s fairly simple to hide any quotes deeper than N levels. I tried to put in a placeholder for “(quote omitted)” instead though, and it didn’t work. So it’s easy to do if you don’t mind not knowing whether there are deeper quote levels.

I also made the dark theme use less padding around quotes, so it doesn’t turn into a vertical column so quickly.

With it set to N=3 (limit to three levels of quoting), the same post looks like this:

One big downside of doing this is that it might encourage people to quote even deeper, since they might not be able to see that they’re including so many levels.

Edit: FWIW, this can be done as an independent stylesheet so you can get the same effect regardless of what theme you’re using. If you want, you can try it here.

Oops, sorry about that! You’re right that it would probably be clearer to only have it in the root /forum page. It’s changed now.

For my part I do my very best to limit the amount of text I quote. When a heavily nested quote appears in my quote it is because I believe that the context is either very useful or entirely necessary for understanding what I am writing. Sometimes in busy/large threads with multiple conversations a big quote is easier for everyone.

I feel that an arbitrary limit on the number of quote levels is a bad thing.

I do think that Javascript could easily collapse some of the quoted posts in an expandable box. That would be worth investigating IMO. I’m not volunteering.

+1

OK, I re-enabled automatically subscribing to threads that you participate in. There is a new setting in your user profile under "Subscriptions" if you want to disable this feature.

Please note that email notification are not working yet. That will take considerably more time yet. Sorry for the delay!

What about broken smiley images? IIRC the Advanced Post Editor may have been inserting emoticons directly as images in the past. I could be way off base on that one. See this post for example: Building a short arc searclight - #20 by ImagioX1

I agree. It’s inherently a violation of scope for the forum or stylesheet to alter the content of people’s posts. If someone makes a mess, it should show the mess accurately. But on a per-user basis it can be nice to have an override switch. So there’s a depth-limit stylesheet, a cheap band-aid for when people are sick of the mess and want it fixed now.

Deep quoting can sometimes be useful, and I’d prefer not to eliminate it entirely.

I try to make sure that the only unnecessary data in my posts is my own incessant rambling. Sorry about that.

Yes I believe you’re right. I’ll look into it.

Thanks!

I went to go look, and I noticed something else. The location field seems to have gone empty in the past day or so. It used to be “Personal Information -> Location” with a value in it, and now it’s “General -> Location” and empty. I restored the old value, but … did everyone just lose their location data?

By chance, I took a screenshot of that yesterday. It looked like this:

It’s not lost, I just have it disabled for now. They are deprecating the old user Profile module in favor of Profile2, and in their typical clumsiness they provide no upgrade path. I do need Profile2 for the Subscriptions system functionality, so I installed the new one and disabled the old one. But if everyone strongly prefers, I can keep digging for a way to migrate the location data. My preference would be for everyone to fill it in again. But you guys/gals decide.

Sorry for all the hassles. Did I mention that the Drupal upgrade process is terrible, horrible, no good, and very bad?

I lost my location data, too. My location data is disabled, too.

How will anyone know I'm from Raccoon City? }:-)

No worries. It’d be ideal to migrate the data but, if not, I doubt it matters much. I understand that Drupal upgrades are rather unpleasantly like trying to pass a kidney stone.

I’m sure that we can all type our locations in again - although some loss might be encountered with defunct or unmotivated users who will never set their location again.

My vote is to save your energy for some more critical aspect of this transition.

We’re on the same page. I’m still not volunteering, and I know that JS isn’t your favorite tool, but someone could potentially port a userscript like the one shown here to work on Drupal: https://www.kongregate.com/forums/1-kongregate/topics/585716-userscript-better-quotes-shrink-those-huge-quotes-down - it looks like a winner.

Granted, as a userscript it does very little for mobile users.

Changing location manually takes all of about 5 seconds. :slight_smile:

The joys of being the boss. You doing a terrific job sb with the minimal disruption to the forum but massive interruption with your normal sleep pattern.
I’d like to see the location of members back and mouseovers but there is no hurry at all. Take your time and as RMM said, well said something like, no hassle.
:slight_smile:

I never noticed that ! So slow. I may pop my locale up once the function is working again.

Hi again SB. I see you’ve been busy. I didn’t get to look at this much over the weekend. Sounds like a royal pain for you. I just wanted to confirm where we are in the user location thing. At this point do we just have to manually repopulate our location? I can live with that, I just want to know what you’d like us to do at this point. If that is the final solution maybe you could send out a mass request for users to update their location. I noticed yesterday that at this time there is no way at all to see a user location. Clicking on the user name no longer lists their location.
Sorry If I’m asking something that’s already ben answered… :-/
Thanks for bring our old emoticons back. :smiley: :beer:

Love the changes so far, but I am not able to find the button that once existed under My Account that would list all of my posts… where is that located now???

Would it be possible to get the little arrow next to the right hand window slider that would take you to the top of the page in one click? Ebay uses it and I think it would be very handy.

Thanks for the good work!

Matt