^ The effects of suddenly stopping was rather anti-climactic. 
http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/model-s-ludicrous-mode-pre-order
$5000 upgrade if you have a P85D Model S. No spaceship needed.
Not at all, i’m gonna build my own then mod it! 
I wonder how many collective 18650 cells BLFers have, we could build our own Model 3/S and drive like maniacs.
7,104 18650 cells in the 85 kWh battery pack.
With the way some BLFers like to overdrive things, flooring the accelerator in ludicrous mode will have a 50/50 chance of instant detonation “rapid disassembly”.
Sad is the Man who doesn’t long for the sound of raw power under his right foot.
Nothing about electric cars interests me.
Just play V8 engine sounds on the stereo while driving it.
Sync the V8 engine sound effects to acceleration. Bluetooth OBD II module, android phone, car sound system.
It would be fun to suddenly turn it off (or on) while driving past someone.
this why I bought a Fiat Abarth 
To quote Wikipedia
I have to say ‘no thanks’. I prefer a car that has a usable volume of cargo space. If it was a wagon I’d say ‘maybe’. I’ll take a wagon over an over-inflated top-heavy ‘crossover’ any day and wish manufacturers hadn’t decided to spend $billions to convince buyers they want ‘crossovers’.
Some of the misconceptions people have are mildly assuming. “Top-heavy” has to be one of the best. Since all Teslas have a very low center on gravity.
The Model 3 has a front trunk and a rear hatch. Tesla says it has way more room and cargo space than an engine-powered car of the same size. Though no numbers have yet been released to define “way more” space.
The frunk has to be wrong, 5.3cu ft makes no sense, i’ve seen pictures and its obviously much bigger.
Haters gonna hate, i’ve learned from experience that facts are wasted, hence i don’t bother, when the wave comes they will be the dinosaurs (trying to drive on dino juice)
“5.3” might sound smaller than it looks but it’s cubic feet. And 53 would bring it close to the room in the back with the rear seats down.
That means it can only fit 1-2 garbage bags
Don’t worry. You can fit a body in two garbage bags easy!
I have to admit, I have trouble with the idea of giving up dino juice. Because you can fill the tank so quick. Even plugged into a supercharger they say it takes 20 min to charge to 50, 40 min for 80, 75 min for 100%. I know with the 200 mile range a normal commute doesn’t even close to requiring a recharge. Still I want faster! 120kW? Pfft, if the cable isn’t smoking I’m not happy. Or superchargers in every parking lot.
Reservations are now at 232k. Previously Tesla said the average price will probably come out to $42k, considering a mix of options. Which gives you just shy of $10B.
Musk: “Recommend ordering soon, as the wait time is growing rapidly.”
That’s quite rudely arrogant, and implies a level of snarky ignorance that’s becoming popular in this “Internet Age”.
“Progress”, you say? Did you forget the electric car has been tried already? In the 19th Century!!! You can call it a “vast right-wing conspiracy”, and continue to deny the Engineering and Free-Market forces that actually do work IRL. “Those who refuse to learn from history will be forever condemned to repeat it.”
When that notion failed, we came up with a much better solution: Internal Combustion. That was about the same time that John D. Rockefeller saved the whales (forgot that too, I’d wager)! Putting carts before horses has been tried too, with the same FUD, fallacy and lack of cost-effective results.
This perversion of the “NIMBY” concept, where it’s okay to pour as much crap in the air as needed, as long as it’s miles away from ’me’ at the power station, is just laboratory-grade Denial, even if it could be made to work IRL.
Around the world from any definition I’ve found for the word “progressive”.
Still, SWMBO & I get a good belly laugh at the current (Ford??) electric-car commercial where the guy drives up to a cute little charging station, plugs in, and walks away into the desert. Talk about your “Truth In Advertising”!!!
(Full disclosure: I WANT an electric car, but not as badly as I want to drive myself all the way back home.)
PS: The “amazing crash in solar panel prices” is most-likely due to the exposure (and subsequent removal) of “progressive” ruling-class payola. Hardly an “apples-to-apples” comparison, when some “invisible hand” holds a gun to my head to force me to pay off some crackpot bullshit artist’s grand delusion.
But y’all do keep trying, m’kay? We want you to succeed, but in a fair, unmolested “even playing field” of the Market; without force, fraud or abuse to maintain your beliefs.
When you get sick of trying to deal with stupidity with facts and logic you become more cynical. Interesting that getting sick of regressive stupidity is a legitimate reason to bash the progressive people. Perhaps you could just listen to reality next time instead of denying it and putting ideology over everything.
And are you going to listen when i explain what energy density is, the economics of crude oil, the finite nature of fossil fuels or the urgency of climate change?
Are you also going to listen to the reality of emission standards and why pollution controls were mandated and why the Chinese have such deadly pollution today even though its preventable?
You want to bash go ahead, no one is obliged to entertain you or listen to you, especially when you make no sense
I suppose automation and efficiency and subsidies and demand only factor into fossil fuel economics, not anything else :–5
Also throw in a some conspiracy nonsense and whack job theories :DRUNK:
How about we start by eliminating the hundreds of billions in subsidies fossil fuels get, and they can repay all they have gotten. We can use that money to conduct alternative energy research, buy solar panels and subsidize electric cars. Since its already being paid to fossil fuel companies and just being redirected this will cost zero dollars more then we are paying today. So i look forward to your support
This fellow is quite wise :nerd_face:
When you get sick of trying to deal with stupidity with facts and logic you become more cynical. Interesting that getting sick of regressive stupidity is a legitimate reason to bash the progressive people
No no, you did write about it.
I consider myself not a nay sayer but I cannot see the advantage of electric cars, the mileage is just too low to be really useful other then than environment and short trips at this time.
Then we saw the rise of electric cars in Amsterdam with that first Tesla little sportscar.
We lived in a good neighborhood and they were used. But as second car for inner city drives. Owners got a charging thing in front of the door, and LOL living in streets with 2 of 3 parking spaces in front of 1 building containing 1 house and 3 appartments you can see the math go horrible wrong if everybody would use electric cars. They added to the parking problem and about two electric cars per street were doable, and our short street had 400 houses. 0.5% of families could go electric (but OK not all drove, some elderly did not have car in our street. So besides the problem of getting all the power needed on top of powerdemands, space would really become an issue in a place like Amsterdam, the natural habitat of electric cars.
Then as far as benefits fo the environment, I once read a thouriug comparison between the Toyota Prius and BMW 1 series.
Toyota, made n Japan, parts had to get to Japen, total package then shipped worldwide
BMW made in Europe, parts had to get to Germany, total package was close to use (we are talking Europe here)
useage of fual, the Prius consumed 0.5L less per 100km.
Taking all the impacts on nature from mining, transporting, creating parts, shipping and useage ONLY after 19 years of same use the Prius would start to have a lower impact and ONLY IF the cells were not changed during that time.
So if I had to make the choice then to buy a new car I rather transport myself in a stylish BMW 1 then a b#tUgly Prius
But that is not our choice, because our use of cars is buying one about 8 years old and replacing it when it needs a lot of repair usually when it is 14 of 15 years. We always had the need for a lot of space to get things and like the comfort of the very neat suspension of Citroens (also very usefull when getting heavy stuff, the car can be lowered to load stuff and put very high to unload and will always keep itself straight in comparison with other norma suspension where the back drops when putting 700kg above the rear axel)
Now living in Frane having to pick up people from the station we have a sevenseater Ctroen Grand Picasso, all seats can be folded to create a great space for things when we need to get bigger stuff. So even if electric proves to be better we have no interest in a sedan, roadster or anything less usefll then the thing we have now. But again, as I said earlier, if we have our waterwheel restored and produce electricity on site, yes a small electric car would be great for shopping close by and be less of a strain on the environment and absolutely worth to have a thourough look at when that time comes.
I would love to see technology progress and cars make a change to hydrogen, produced by wind and water and distributed via the excisting infrastructure of gas stations.
So you brought up the superiority of electric cars, and I like to be educated so please educate me!