Rating: DiscoveryBargain.com

I just received a new Ganzo G704 from Exduct. I had my choice of the old or new version. I think it was a dollar more. While it certainly is a cool looking knife, every single SRM and Enlan I own completely blow it away in materials & workmanship. IMO, the 704 is akin to most of the junky knives you'll find at DX or MF... etc. Maybe Enlan will copy it some day and make it what it should have been in the first place.

I ordered lots of stuff from them and found their service to be reliable.I received everything I ordered from them, faster than DX extreme .Their website leaves much to be desired, and they keep jacking the prices on their popular sellers.Every seller could do better in some ways, but DB gets and OK in my books.

They have not been able to accept Paypal payments for the last 24 hours.

Yesterday I ordered a knife from "hotdealings", but wasn't able to pay via PayPal, since their account seems to be suspended.

Today I've noticed that the titlebar didn't say "hotdealings" anymore, but "hoursbuy" ... they've changed their name again, this time to hoursbuying.com.

So I went to the new site, was able to log into my HD account and pay for my order.

PayPal accepted the payment, but it says: "The recipient of this payment is unregistered"

Well, now I'm curious, how this will go ...

Maybe it got too "hot" for Discoverybargain and they are changing their name "hourly" now.

I ordered 2 knives from hotdealings and they were tracked to have left HK on 11/11/2011.

Is that really true because I have seen many videos on YouTube and read many reviews and I was about to buy Ganzo G704 but after your post I hesitate.

Others here have commented in other threads that share my observations, and these knives are cheap enough to buy several. My suggestion is to buy a few and compare for yourself. If you dont have a selection of better knives to compare to the G704, you will never know what you are missing.

Sigh.

They now have a banner at the top of every page that says: "Dear Honored customer, After a long time painful consideration, We decide to accept payment by credit card instead of Paypal, so sorry for inconvenience caused; Besides, in order to bring you the safe purchasing experience, we will install Secure socket layer(SSL) to protect your payment privacy. Wish you happy purchasing on hotdealings.com and thank you for you support in advance.
Yours sincerely
Hotdeailngs team"

I am certainly no fan of Paypal's but at least their website works, which is more than I can say for a lot of other CC processing platforms Chinese sites like to use (Aliexpress, I am looking at you, too). Besides, I really don't feel like spending hours on the phone with my credit card company, just because some random site got compromised.

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Slowly but surely discoverybargain/hotdealings/hoursbuying does deserve an "AVOID"-label. Constant company name change. A system that forgets half the shipping address, sometimes ultra-long shipping times (45+ days) and now the lack of PP buyers protection. Yep... "AVOID" indeed.

Most of the Navy knives have gone and there is only one model of Enlan listed now.

I emailed them about that and they replied that they'd bring all their inventory back eventually, which it seems like they're doing now. Still, I can't say I'm too crazy about ordering from them without Paypal's purchase protection.

If it wasn't for the post office, even more orders of mine would have been lost somewhere between here in HK. Going through Paypal when they go incommunicado (which they tend to do), has been really convenient in those cases. I guess I could still threaten a chargeback and go to my credit company, but in any case, I'd rather not give them my credit card number.

Say what you will about Paypal: I don't like them, but Paypal is pretty convenient. It's just that PP and eBay desperately need competition. When the DOJ is done doing whatever they're doing all day long, maybe they could look into that. Yeah, right...

I enter the homepage today and could find a lot of Enlans and Navys.

Seem to be back to hotdealings at least for me. Also their hotdealings site does sort by price (high and low) and new arrivals.

They're processing credit cards directly on their site? Since it mentions they just added SSL I guess so. I agree not something that's wise, at least they could use some generic payment processor even if it's some Chinese one.

Ordered 4 SRM knives from them on the last/prelast day(19.january GMT+2 European time, past midnight 20.january in Chinese time zone) before Chinese New Year (they had info on their web page that all orders that are paid after 20.january will be shipped on 2.february), got no message from them other but automatic order confirmation from paypal.

On 31.january finally got shipping notice, but lo and behold - only 2 out of 4 knives were being shipped, other 2 marked as "unshipped".

Sent message through hoursbuying web page on 31.january, no answer, sent an email yesterday, lets see if they answer till monday/tuesday.

And yes, their webpage, just like buyincoins tend to be offline pretty often FFS :D!

If they dont answer back and explain my situation Im gonna wait till 45 day paypal expiration and then file a claim and get my money back, as simple as that :)

So far they had all the knives for the prices Im willing to pay, lets see if I ever received anything from them :D!

They are no longer taking Paypal payments.

Then I can consider myself lucky given that I was able to place order and pay with PayPal on HB :D

I wonder if issues with my order have something to do with this fact as well :D?

Now if I receive all my order in timely manner then lack of PP will certainly keep me from buying more knives from this merchant.

Oh and BTW, their webpage has been offline since yesterday for me at least ;)

Out of business to return with new name again?!

I filled dispute with Paypal and later noticed that they have mailed me, after 4 messages to them!
So, long story short, hoursbuying DONT have actual stock availability information on their webpage, just because product is listed doesnt mean its available.

They shipped two knives worth 17$ and other two, also worth 17$ were out of stock, they offered me credit 17.1$ in coupon code :D
I played smart and asked for 25$ given lack of communication from them, they agreed on sending me 2 coupon codes 25$ total.

Now, heres the deal, how should I handle this situation? I told them that Im canceling my Paypal claim for now but will renew it if I dont receive my items in 45 days window(ordered from them 19.01.12 and got shipping notification on 31.01.2012, however my package is still stuck in China post!) from the day I paid I will renew the dispute with Paypal.

What bothers me is that if they give me 25$ coupons, I immediately spend them BUT they dont ship anything and fake the order then will I be able to get those original 17$ back through Paypal in case I dont my new-coupon paid order in timely manner, I understand I should open dispute/claim within original 45 days window, right?

i have yet to find them. each search comes back server not found. where are they iran, n korea?

I tried to purchase from them and of course PayPal came up and said no-go!! I tried my Visa/debit card and nothing happened till I went to the grocery store and found that my card had been locked due to trying to do a transaction with a country (China) that is on the banks "Do Not Do Business With" list. Good thing the wife was with me or I would have gone home without my groceries. It would appear this company has issues behind the iron curtain.