Nitenumen NE01 (MH20 clone)

is the led easy to swap with noctigon star?

If its anything like the Nitecore MH20, then “no”…

But, I notice that Nitenumen don’t mention the ability to run 2x CR123a in it, unlike Nitecore… Which suggests its a different driver at least…

So maybe… just maybe… you might be able to get inside it to swap the emitter without a super hero to twist the bezel…

The specs sheet up the top shows that it can use cr123 and 16340.

Oh yeah, the Alibaba link says it takes CR123a…

Would love to see a review of this, esp compared to the MH20 its cloned from…

If its just as good, then Nitecore have an issue! lol.

One question….have this a two stage switch? (one of the best interfaces that i have tested) like the mh20 or is only a bad copy with a external similar design and a bad quality electronic, quality of threads, anodized, regulation, ipx….

I will do the review when I get mine. So maby 10 days from now will share my thoughts about quality and performance…

Yes some of Nitenumen’s lights do look like Solarforces. Nitenumen is just rebranding perhaps, and hopefully picky with their sources. I have the Solarforce SC01. Great little light. Well made, nice UI and good performance with 14500 Li (but not so good with AA).

You knocking ghetto lights? You’ve wondered onto the wrong forum I’m afraid. :wink:

$22.69 for this light seems right price. If the quality is fine…anyone had a chance to check it?

Hmm to take the gamble at the low price before seeing a review?

Such a question…

If you need a light - I’d rather pay $10 more and get Manker U11…but gambling is addictive… :wink:

Good point!

Yeah good point, Manaker U11 is great flashlight, but this is stil BLF,and many other people would rather spend 10-11$ on pair of 18650 like Samsung 30Q, or Panasonic A/B…
Let’s wait for descent review,and see how it works :beer:

If the quality of NE01 is decent - I totally agree that for many people that simply needs a light - it could be a good choice. Great majority doesn’t really need best fit&finish, nice looking tint, perfectly spaced modes…they don’t freak out when charging does not terminate exactly at 4,2V. :wink:

My point is that if someone is short on money for something - better not gamble or buy poor quality item, as he would need to buy twice.

I think it’s just like a drug whose patent runs out and the generics flood in. Funny timing with the gt coming out huh?

Why is that ? Are built in chargers lower quality or something?

It would seem flashlight with built in charger is more versatile as you can always take the cell out and charge it in external charger. But in EDC scenario when you have no spare cell you can always find someone with smartphone charger. Nowadays these adapters can easily deliver 1-2A or even more but I don’t suppose that flashlights will support Qualcomm Quick Charge anytime soon :wink:
I think that when there’s room for additional electronics it’s just convenient to have build charger rather than not. After all every rechargeable electronics evolve in that direction - virtually nobody takes off their batteries from the phone to charge in external charger and in new models battery removal is not even possible as deemed unnecessary.

On the off note: I wonder when we will see first Qi compatible wireless charging flashlight - there is already one using some kind of wireless tech (http://www.orcatorch.com/product/WR10.html), but needs dedicated charger so I see no advantages over normal gold coated electrical contacts and dedicated cradle. Qi v1.2 can deliver up to 15W of power so it will be enough to quickly charge large capacity cells.

Well, I could understand that built-in charger is not as good as a separate one (like Opus or Lii), there’s also no fresh air access…but on the other hand - as altonx wrote - it’s a perfect EDC.
Usually I recommend such flashlights for people that does not have external charger. It’s very convenient, perfect for trips.

From my perspective - even not that good charging that can reduce battery life is not something that typical person would even notice, if they’re using light rarely. For a ‘pro’ that wants to squeeze everything from the battery - this could be marginal issue in my opinion. Or maybe I’m missing something here…so please enlight me :slight_smile:

From my point of view, there are two disadvantages of flashlights with built-in chargers:

  • First - Possible compromise of the waterproofing.
    The USB port rubber plug can be inadvertently unplugged or not plugged in all the way, which can lead to water exposure.
  • Second (maybe less rational) - The idea of a Li-Ion cell in a sealed metal container being pumped with electrons and heating up is slightly disconcerting to me.

Do you guys worry about possible explosions due to charger / cell malfunction?

Absolutely not, I mean now days quality high drain 18650 you can buy for 3-4$ like Samsung 25R or LG HG2. Never heard that someone had a problem with original cells even with much worse chargers. If you intend to use some cheap Ultrafire 9900mAh then you have a potential problem for sure

Regarding the waterproofing issue - charging port is waterproof barrier itself and it prevents water from entering the flashlight body. Rubber cap prevents water/dirt from clogging/damaging quite small micro USB port contacts. There is also second design (imho better) where you have to unscrew the head to access charging port which is located behind waterproofing oring(vide: Manker Rambler or Cooyoo/MecArmy/Blackwater 10180 lights).

IMHO charging cell inside sealed flashlight is no more dangerous than in external charger (provided both chargers are of equal quality and do not overcharge).
Flashlight body should work as passive heat sink to some extent (contact between body walls and cell is not very tight) and used charge current should take conditions inside flashlight into account - i.e. it’s probably more conservative/foolproof.
I also second what NikolaS wrote. Using quality cell assure maximum safety as those cells are indended for use in multiple cell batteries often encased in plastic and operating under far worse conditions. LG for example tests their cells safety with short circuit and they do not vent.
The only explosions/fires I am aware of were caused by knockoff/low quality/*fire cells/cell batteries or by carelessness causing short circuits (damaged wrappers, carrying loose cells alongside keys and coins). After all standard notebook battery pack contains a few 18650 cells and they are used by hundreds of millions of people around the world not caring about safety issues at all. Taking this scale into account battery incidents are really rare.
18650 cells can be dangerous in careless hand and that’s precisely the reason why those cells are not generally available and every equipment manufacturer enclose those cells within battery packs with protections and doesn’t allow users handle unprotected cells. So when you look at built in charger from that perspective it should be more safe as you are not required to handle potentially volatile cell, you will have no chance to damage wrapper or cause accidental short.

Thank for the response, guys.

altonx - I agree, I also consider the second design better (unscrew to access).

Regarding the cell charging, I was just wondering what people thought…
I was not so much concerned about heat dissipation during normal charging, as I was about the expanding gasses in a metal tube during potential thermal runaway (I think I read a story here about a multi cell flashlight mishap).
But I understand that good cells are the key and that li-ion explosions don’t happen very often.
I do use quality cells (Panasonic/Sanyo), currently only the protected variants (Keeppower/EVVA).

EDIT: The sorry was actually on CPF (“TK Monster Explosion”) - but it’s quite old.