GB Oficially closed/// Maxtoch 2X Shooter (new version)

Thanks. I had assumed it was a tailcap measurement.

Nice, i presume the tubes will match, the driver will be again 26mm i presume,1s version here we go :slight_smile:

Its good that they intent to use dedomed U4, somehow warmer XPL HI tent to die pretty fast( i killed several V2 3B in a row this way, phosphorus starts burning near the + bond wire ) and using cool white tints for hunting isnt serious

As a host version will be a best seller definately, the main issue with those 2s torches is that 22r, .223 , .243 and even 7.62x56 est ca are usualy light rifles( arround or under 3kg), a 400+ gram flashlight debalances it great time

I would like to buy one when possible please

O thats right! I remember reading that they could not take the hi amperage, (hand slaps forehead).
370k lux from 4.5 amps. Very impressive run time that way also.

We tested both XML2-U3 and U4 leds with the 6 amp board and they blew instantly. They are however stable and will run continuously at 4.5 amps. XPL-HI will take the 6 amps but only for few minutes then stepdown needed.

Did several runtime tests for both medium and high modes for new 2X and high (360+k) recorded 70-74 minutes, while medium (260+k) recorded 100+ minutes. Batteries for all testing = panasonic/maxtoch 3400 protected buttontops.

Had some trouble getting one panasonic out of 2X when shooting on friday night. Checked later and other panasonics fitted easily - variation was in the battery diameter from panasonic - not a torch issue. Just something to bear in mind.

I am not a fan now of the XPL-HI. Significantly lower lux output than XML2-U3 and U4 in side by side testing (including tests in same light), and its cool white tint blues and washes out color and picture clarity. We tested a BLF-TE 4.5 amp M24 with XPL-HI at about 250k lux. We then swapped a dedomed U4 into this torch and it improved hugely - jumped to 290-300k lux, and with vastly improved colour/picture clarity. If there are any guys who have bought the BLF M24 in recent GB, get Richard at Mountain Electronics to dedome a U4 and put that into it. Makes a fabulous hunter and superb long distance light.

We tested the BLF M24 with a U4 in it (290-300k) beside this new 2X when it had the 6 amp board and XPL-HI measuring 370k, and the U4 M24 was clearly better past 2-300 meters than the higher lux (80k more) 2X with XPL. That cool XPL-HI beam glares alot more but does not travel as well, and in misty conditions the warmer dedomed U4 is much better at cutting through the atmosphere.

I agree Mitko - I’d say about 400gms is max for a hunting weapon mounted light, so the challenge was for maxtoch to produce an extreme performer at just 300 or so grams. 2X is 308 on my kitchen scales. And achieving right CRI colour faithfulness plus picture clarity down range was a big factor for us - we’ve nailed that pretty well too. Also alot of hunters like long runtimes so we set the mode outputs very exactly for hunting purposes. High mode at 360-370k is for super long range scanning. Medium mode is set up at 260-270k lux - huge performance but with 100+ minutes runtime which is ideal. The medium 260-270k with its much improved color/picture clarity and over 1000 meter range is amazing in the field - was shooting with it on friday night, and I very seldom clicked into high. Low range is set at about 45k lux - ideal for possums up trees - this is for the Aussies and New Zealanders :slight_smile:

We keep a close eye on new Cree led products, all the leading torch makers etc and I’d say the new 2X is the best all-purpose hunter light ex factory in the world in terms of specs/performance/quality/price. And right with it is that brilliant little BLF-TE M24 with the XPL-HI removed and a dedomed U4 in it - pushed it up to 290-300k lux. I have both and they are legend…

If I didn’t already want it badly enough :smiley:

This application is exaclty what it will be used for a lot of the time. Also to piss off people 1/2 a mile away :innocent:

The air was much clearer tonight and got some much better beamshots, The NEW beamshots are now the slide show in the OP if anyone would care to go back and see the better shots. (still not perfect conditions but much better)

This looks great, a light developed for hunters is subtly different to most enthusiasts throwers so this is great news.

Lightweight, massive throw and great tint. Take my money!

Updated in OP also……….

The New 2X hit Aliexpress today. Maxtoch will be doing an “introductory” pricing other than what is listed ($93.50 regular price)from what I understand.
Also I am talking with Amanda at Maxtoch about a possible Group Buy for the forum , so unless you just can’t stand to wait a few more days then here is the link with the regular price.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXTOCH-New-2X-Dedomed-XM-L2-U4-LED-1450lm-1200m-Distance-Utmost-Version-of-Thrower-Flashlights/32661379568.html

Link broken ?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXTOCH-New-2X-Dedomed-XM-L2-U4-LED-1450lm-1200m-Distance-Utmost-Version-of-Thrower-Flashlights/32661379568.html

Omg. $NZ134.

ORDERING VERY VERY SOON.

That’s an awesome price for such a beast.

robo819, whats Maxtoch’s method of dedoming this emitter?

I am not sue how they dedome the emitters, that is something Maxtoch probably does not like to discuss pucblicy, you know like a trade secret.
I am sure they will be done just fine though , as they have been dedoming U3’s for sometime now in the M24’s.

Do the heads interchange?
If so, will they consider just selling the new head for us who bought the sniper?
Thanks
Keith

I have been waiting on this light since you and mudgripz were talking about it in the M24 GB thread. This and the Convoy L6 will make for a great combination

Muto,
All I can do is ask if they will sell heads separately and let you know.

This is only my opinion but , I don’t see it saving much to be honest maybe 10 bucks over buying the whole light, and then you have double the wear on the head threads and the tube threads on both changing the tube out.

How is the tiny shift in these DD U3s? If they release a XP-L HI version will it have huge lux drop?

The 2X started out with XP-L Hi and a 6amp driver in it to achieve the same 360 to 370K lux output that the 4.5 amp with dedomed XM-L2 U4 1A is doing. The 6 amp version also required a stepdown after 2 to 3 minutes where the 4.5 amp version does not. Also longer run times with the 4.5 amp version.

I also tested my M24 with 4.5 amp driver and XP-L Hi in it originally , from the GB I did last year. It also had a signifigant gain in output when the emitter was changed to the dedomed XM-L2 U4 from the HI. the M24 goes from 250K lux to 300K lux with the simple emitter swap.

The U3 emitter will be about 10K lux less then the U4 I think.

The introductory price for the 2X of $88.83 (regular price $93.50) is up and working on the Aliexpress site , this will be good through May 8th.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXTOCH-New-2X-Dedomed-XM-L2-U4-LED-1450lm-1200m-Distance-Utmost-Version-of-Thrower-Flashlights/32661379568.html

Also I am talking with Amanda at Maxtoch about a possible Group Buy for the forum. This would consist of making a list and waiting to get to the minimum number of pieces (not yet determined) to get the GB price. I am shooting for an even lower price than the introductory offer of $88.83 , but I can make no guarantees that it will go any lower than the introductory price is now.

So if you are wiling to gamble on a lower price or the numbers being high enough after this introductory offer , the choice is there, we just gotta decide to gamble on , save 5 bucks now , or gamble on getting enough names for the number of required pieces for a GB.

Best information I can give ya for now folks but I am tryin. :slight_smile: