Luxeon Rebel LEDs - Underrated performers

Lifepo4 might be your answer. I used one to DD a PT54 red at about 8A. Don’t know about now but Tenergy did offer 3 different capicity/output cells. Typically high capacity Lifepo4 cells offer lower amperage output. Find some spec info. HTH

I posted my build for a Rebel deep red triple in the mod thread, but figured I should add the beam shots to rollinstone’s thread on coloured rebel emitters for thread integrity. It’s running at 4.5A.


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Roxanne. ….don’t turn on the red light!

The deep red rebels are a bright cherry red as compared to the orange red of the XP-E2. These are nice emitters and pack a lot of light. I don’t know why everyone is a afraid to try a non Cree LED.

Bravo. And for cross-references, several others along this line fairly recently

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Joat’s build thread not for the contest. Color mixing Red Orange …
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40551

OK. But are there any convenient places to get them not in bulk quantities and with shipping price not through the roof?

> convenient places
Depends mostly on where you live.
’oogled: "luxeon rebel" "deep red" - Google Search

Aside I went looking for little tiny Rebel mounting boards — wanting to try them in 1xAAA lights.
Does anyone know of a 9mm board that would fit into the BLF348?
(There are some 10 or 11mm boards that might be possible to file down)

This isn’t what I was looking for, it’s an old CPF thread, but it’s an interesting approach I don’t recall seeing, insulating the bottom and soldering to the top.

Rebel 10mm mounting base

7.6 mm rebel base

I’ve used LuxeonStar’s 10mm square Sinkpad bases (newer, recommended)
http://www.luxeonstar.com/sinkpad-10mm-square-leds
They drop perfectly into round openings sized for 16mm round boards (need a solid pill or add a solid back plate to fill the hole)

The 7.6mm looks great! Australia, well OK, USPS priority mail is under $8 US, to get ten boards. I see a learning curve ahead of me ….

For next time, anyone know a US supplier for those?

Edit: somehow I misread “ogazent” as “ozagent” — he’s a US supplier.

And he has a bunch more of those little 7.6mm boards for Rebels, and will be putting up more mounted LEDs on those small boards (one time, discount) soon (batch he ordered came the wrong size so he’s clearing them out)

Can’t you file down those 10mm square pads?

> file down …?
Maybe, but to get down to 8.5mm means filing well into the pads:

-The Australian guy had only three of the smaller pads (now he has none). so I may want to try filing at some point.

I think the problem with the rebels is that they are really designed for optics which sit on top of the emitter. Because of their shape, they sit on the pad off center. There aren’t any centering isolators designed for standard reflectors, and the low profile will have the reflector sitting on the wires.

Yeah, the “copper penny” approach (scraping the top to expose the pads and soldering wires) would interfere with a focusing light’s reflector ring sitting right next to the LED
All the boards I have are dedicated Rebel boards, with the pads off to the side. Those leave enough room for a reflector, though I’ve only built a couple.

I mostly make zoomies, and as I mentioned the square boards drop perfectly into the round shelf/hole used for a “16mm” emitter — and that puts the emitter dead center.
There’s a tiny bit of movement possible, less than a millimeter at each corner — you know the trigonometry, a 10mm square has a diagonal measurement a bit over 14.14mm.

That makes those ideal for dropping into the #3 zoomie, SK68, and Cofly’s little 1xAA zoomie (I have seen very few with solid pills, otherwise those need a copper disk from Etsy dropped in, to fill the hole like a solid pill.

But as I said, I’ve got the itch to try the Luxeon Rebels in the little 1xAAA lights now. Well, three opportunities are in the mail from Australia. I hope they can get more eventually.

There is always a solution. Some just take more thinking and fiddling.

I still use 7135s, for 10440 lights, for colored lights and for Nichia 219C lights. I have only used FET drivers with white Cree LEDs. It is, after all, better if you can get the current you want, independent of the battery charge state and condition.

Yes. My problem was the limitations of them since stacking chips was always a failure for me, which is why I was so happy with my latest red rebel triple. I went at it again and managed to get four extra chips stacked and a solid 4.5A. After all my failures, I was elated. Now that I have the option of a 4.5A regulated driver, I’m going to be visiting my ignored stash of Qlites more often.

Sorry for bumping the topic, I was wrong several places I’ve corrected.
He’s got more boards, and will have more mounted emitters on boards available soon.

I’m thinking of trying some Luxeon Z. Maybe RGBW.