Cree changed production process for XP-G2 emitters!

But you guys should direct arguments towards Cree and not toward me.

This whole thing is proven fact.

There is no help or cure for this… Only new emitters or old stock XP-G2 S4 2B one.

Edit:

But we can if we all hold together and if someone(owner or co owner of this forum) writes a note to Cree with reference to this thread.

They are familiar with old production process of G2 emitters so they really can make things better for us.

And THIS attitude is really your biggest roadblock right now. When you think your only hope is to go back to something that no longer exists, then you become utterly hopeless. Change your thinking. Start looking for a way forward, because none of us can make Cree change anything. They have done what they did because it was an improvement by their standards. Start looking at other emitters and other processes and try to figure out how to flow with technology changes instead of against. Companies that try to flow against market changes usually don’t survive long. People who resist change become bitter and useless as the whole world passes them by.

Cree didn’t make a change for no reason, there must have been a very good business reason for the change. As such, the threat of losing a few thousand dollars total from this forum in the next couple of years will make no difference to them, no matter how many people on this little forum complain about it.

I’ve said all I can say about it, as have others. If you want to keep hoping for change from Cree, go for it. The only way I can see it changing is if the difference was just a manufacturing error that didn’t get caught in QC and future batches (if they continue the 2 now that 3 is here) will be back to the old way. So you can hope for that.

Ok,

Cree made really good thing by changing production process for XP-G2 emitters

Actually from their point of view I’m sure they did. Without a doubt it wasn’t something they did lightly. The impact of blf users doesn’t even rise to the background noise level for them.

Hello

I just happened the same :rage: the same leds of the same store (IO)
After dedome turned very very warm tone :confounded: naked eye the phosfor also change to a very yellow tone, low kcds, and low Amp :person_facepalming:

Perhaps I pull my money?

It isn’t Hank’s (IO) fault , as the title says “Cree changed production….” .
I don’t say these new xp-g2’s are good , but pulling your money will only cause Hank to pay them from his wallet .

Gaston,

I had same situation.

I was very angry and I did contact Hank explaining him the problem…

Hank is really not fault but he could reply in this thread and offer his advice or opinion.

And as plenty of guys here stated (please read posts on page before this one) Cree only wants all the best for their costumers so we must withstand everything they throw at us cause Budget Light Forum is to small community, and Cree does not care for us.

I accepted that and now i feel great. :beer:

I am currently quit with modding… I am waiting for emitter that is worthy replacement of good old XP-G2 S4 2B (R.I.P.) and hopefully I’ll start with modding again.

luminarium iaculator

Cutter samples are on its way to me, keep your fingers crossed

Ok Mitko,

Mitko , any clue if the emitters(in triples) from kaidomain are the “old” batch ?

I think that Cree is adapting to what the other manufacturers have been doing for years, improving the output spectrum of their leds. The competition has come close in output and toughness, so the only option is getting the light quality in order.

What did you buy all those for? Are you selling them? I’d say go ahead and offer them for sale and just tell your customers that Cree made a change to the emitter. Some people won’t buy because of it, but some still will. Let them choose. Luminarium is making the choice on behalf of his customers, but you don’t have to do that. Customers can make a choice for themselves.

Hello

I do not understand the reason for your question ¿? I respond equally…… the leds are for my mods, and for mods to customers I do some mods to order here in my country (I am responsible for every work I do)

Yes… Right selection of emitter(sometimes there are crab emitters even in same batch of lets say old xp g2), methods and components to make much different and better flashlight than factory one…

Type of clients: “Seeing what I am buying”. If someone brings 250kcd Olight they expect that your modded flashlight will visually out throw it.

I’ve been very successful in beating such configurations but now there is no point… I am beaten…

We’ll just have to wait for better days…

And new production process seems to affect all types of emitters. Not just XP-G2.

I was asking what you bought the LEDs for because I know Luminarium said he bought a lot of them to make lights for his customers yet he is quitting modding because they were not good. Other people buy large quantities even just for themselves. So I didn’t know what you bought them for. But, if you are making lights to sell, I wanted to say that you can still offer them to people, and tell the people that there is a difference and let them decide whether to buy or not. In other words, hope is not lost just because Cree made a change. Manufacturers make changes all the time and yet the world continues. If you bought them for yourself, then of course you already know that you don’t like them, so it is a bad deal for you. In that case, maybe you can try to sell them here to get some money back. Somebody on here will probably be willing to buy them if you start a WTS thread.

Edit: By the way, there are some people that really like a warm tone. So, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that nobody else does either. Somebody will like it. :wink:

Atm( i recieved those today) the only old stock XPG2 that i have found are S2 0A from FT, the only one from dozens
The tint is great after dedoming - their problem is that from 5 tested only 1 is capable of 4.5amps, the rest are arround 4, some even 3.5

Sorry for asking again , but , have you tested the kaidomain’s xp-g2 s2 1a from the triples ?

ah ok, now I understand your question, thanks for the explanation :slight_smile:

The biggest problem is not so much the change in tone….the problem is the loss of performance it is very remarkable, dozens of kcds are lost in the same modifications of the same flashlight…I have important losses in and throw and low A even with high discharge batteries :cry:

Edit: Add that I had missed this topic here in the forum, if I had read before, I would not have bought them in that store…

You should read my thread before buying this.

Tint is neutral… Neutral with ugly green pigment (at least that was situation with mine batch). I also said like you that I can chew up the tint but I can’t chew up performance drop We mentioned tint solution in this thread and it is led seal or Vinz diamond treatment method.

Performance drop… We should only say lux performance drop (cause there is probably lumen gain on classic domed emitter) really hurts…

Cree is not guilty… We are guilty for expecting continuance from well established product…

Gaston cheers :beer: