Exactly. Thanks Dale
Still adjustments to specifications quite possible as Maxtoch do necessary QA on first limited production run of lights, but no significant changes to light build at this stage.
+100 Dale
First yes I was mistaken when I said the 2X is parallel I meant to say series with the M24 and 2X both , my apologies for that one.
I also need to correct my previous statement of the C8 tube working in the M24 , at least with the 4.5 amp driver. The head I was using it with and the light functioning right was my original M24 with the original driver which is a 3.2 to 3.4 or so amp driver. It DOES NOT function with this 4.5 amp driver in the 2X or the M24. (only have three M24’s so it gets confusing which one I grab)
The single tube was actually made for the M24-S (which was the one gray color) to run on one cell originally so I have no idea with the 2X.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MAXTOCH-M24S-body-tube-to-contain-1pc-18650-battery/32600711941.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.246.IMRtFr&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10017_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=d36d14b2-1ccd-4973-9224-b37c1381976b
Although it does not function , here is what the 2X head looks like with the Convoy C8 tube and 2X tailcap anyway.
So, does this mean the lights us first buyers get may not be as good as the next ? In terms of performance etc.
No. There are no increased outputs planned on this model.
If there are any changes they will be very minor ones but I think the overall performance of these lights is about as good as it will get. I cant see them improving performance any at all , without sacrificing some of the other things like run time and more heat , which I do not see happening to be honest.
A minor tweak here or there is POSSIBLE is all I think mudgripz was saying NOT that they will be trying to get better output or anything.
The first run of lights is always the ones that tell the story of overall performance in the real world , but so far with Maxtoch they usually don’t release lights until they have things sorted.
You did it again mudgripz…… posted while I was typing response…lol
It is all good
It is exactly as you say.
Maxtoch tested all the prototypes and made a few changes, then as a matter of QA they are testing again the first production models and might tweak those before full release.
I’m wondering if they are withholding shipping while they sort out some things.
I ordered on Sunday, and it still says 5 days till despatch on my order status on Aliexpress.
It usually takes like 4 to 7 days from my experience for anything to start tracking from overseas.
EDIT: Actually I just looked back at a light I had coming for review , it took 9 days for it to start moving, or showing anything once it was dropped off for dispatch.
Ah nuts. That’s good to know though, cheers.
To answer that little fear of a potential Quality Control tweak, isn’t it ALWAYS the case that a product can be tweaked, improved, even modified substantially? Upgrades, updates, security recalls… manufacturer’s are always responding to feedback and field events, right?
And with electronics, your brand new just arrived unit is outdated with new tech the first time you turn it on. Better computers, better phones, and yes, better drivers and LED’s. It’s the constant push to move forward and not stagnate. It drives sales. 
When you stop and think about it though, hasn’t MaxToch always been of very excellent quality? So they make sure, before it’s released, that it meets their criteria. Pretty sure you don’t have to worry about getting an inferior light from this company.
From what I’ve red here - definitely.
It is not a fear of getting a lemon, it’s more “oh did I rush in?”
There will no doubt as you say be bigger and better in future, but cripes, when I get my first run light, I’d hate Maxtoch to suddenly / soon bump up the specs !!
But looking back on their history, I doubt it’ll happen suddenly. I think back to the stock Maxtochs of only a few years - 50-100 Klux was King.
I would almost guarantee the output will not be made any higher on the 2X. The U4 will not handle but 5 amps or so , over that and it becomes unstable , so that only leaves a half an amp to play with for more output. I just don’t see them pushing it to the max and taking a chance with that.
robo or mudgripz, is the dedomed emitter left bare or does Maxtoch apply a seal over it? If left bare, has anyone reported oxidation or degradation of the emitter with use over time? Thanks.
I have a number of emitters I have dedomed with NO sealant on them. So far I have not had any of them fail or have any noticeable performance loss. I just looked at a couple of them and cannot tell where the older ones look any different than the more recent ones under the magnifying glass, with the oldest one at this time about 8 months and a good bit of use.
As far as how Maxtoch is doing theirs , I have not asked so I cannot give an answer on that.
They sent me the driver they are using to fit in my prototype and I got the Maxtoch board with the U4 1A from Richard and did the dedome myself.
Cheers robo
As you know personally I’ve been hanging out for this.
The price to performance ratio - or just the performance alone - is absolutely killer.
0.5 amp sure is bugger all !!
I’ll be very happy to get out with the beast. Which I have just now noticed has been sent ! Excited.
Robo, thank you for taking the time and effort to post that (and I understand it’s only a hypothetical/thought experiment). Some might think it looks weird, and I’m not very looks-oriented, but I think it looks sweet! LOL. I’ll shut up now. Thank you for the eye candy. I’m sorry the experiment didn’t work, but thanks for the news, and for trying.
First new 2Xs now arriving in NZ - interesting comments from buyers:
“Been using a led lenser m14 for last few years. The maxtoch just leaves it for dead!! Honestly Im just stunned as to how bright it is….Hoping to get out shortly and take this ”electric dog” for a big walk.”
“Excellent product quality. Stunning light output.”
365k is a helluva lot of light……
What the ?
They were only released 10 days ago !
That’s some lightening fast shipping.
Are those 365k tested allready? BLF m24 claimed to be 250k yet it was arround 200k…wonder what an old s4 will give in that reflector, i am quite impatient to try it out