flat earth people

Very cool. These guys take trolling to a new high, one that may never have been reached before!

It must be fun to watch all the scientist types pull their hair out in frustration as they try to explain that the Earth is not flat. All the while, these trolls feign disagreement, and spout yet more B.S. to confound their victims. I love the rational tone the web site presents. That must really pull in the suckers who want to help roll back the ignorance.

I did not see an explanation why ships with tall masts sailing towards the horizon do not simply shrink is size. Instead, their hulls vanish from sight (as they move below the horizon) before their masts do.

There is also the slight problem of the shadow the Earth casts on the moon during a lunar eclipse. That’s when the Earth rotates between sun and the full moon, eclipsing the sunlight that strikes moon’s surface. This makes the full moon turn dark.

As the shadow of the Earth creeps across the face of the moon, it is easy to see its curved shape. I have taken pictures of it.

Mathematically speaking, you would need to reach “forever” for mass to equal the speed C. You can never reach forever, you can only approach it. So, the speed of mass never reaches C, only approaches it.

But can you accelerate at a constant rate forever?

In this flat earth “theory” I don’t think mass increases as speed increases.

That’s kind of tough to answer. You can “try” to accelerate forever, but you’ll never reach forever. It’s similar to counting to infinity, which you’ll never reach. You can count to a ridiculously large number, but you’ll still not reach infinity. Similarly, you can accelerate for a really really really long finite period of time time, but you’ll never reach “forever”.

Also, according to the relativistic mass equations, if you could somehow accelerate and reach “forever”, the mass would reach the speed C, but the mass would contain an infinite amount of “relativistic mass”.

You do realize that “flat earth” people only do this to get the reactions that are being posted here :question:
Its all in fun, yes it seems like they are serious thats how they get you in :smiling_imp:

Cheers David

And yet, they’ll reference Special Relativity. Eek.

It’s funny, but there is actually an element of truth in that paragraph about gravity, based on what I’ve figured out from reading simple explanations about General Relativity and going through some of Einstein’s thought experiments.

When we’re sitting in our chairs on Earth, we are in an accelerating frame of reference - we are being accelerated. It is the same as sitting in a chair on an accelerating space ship. When we’re falling towards the ground, we are NOT accelerating. It is the same as free floating in outer space far away from any planets.

This means the “force of gravity” we feel is actually the ground pushing up against us - the ground is accelerating against us, just like the floor of a rocket ship pushing up against us.

So why aren’t we going anywhere when we’re being accelerated? I don’t know. I guess we’re being accelerated against the curvature of space caused by the Earth’s mass?

I have been thinking for some time that the easiest way for me to get rich is to write a high school physics text book that explains that there is a theory that the Earth goes around the sun, but actually, as we can all see, the sun rises and sets and travels in an arc through the sky. So the Earth is the center of the solar system. I plan to sell these to all the schools that teach that the jury is still out on Evolution.

the flat earth society is actually all the BLF people, in an alternate universe

Going into space would be much easier if Earth is flat.

You guys are over-thinking things.

How fortunate it is that basketball season is (finally) almost over, so we can have a useful purpose for those basketballs.

Simply place a basketball on smooth ground (smooth so rocks don’t become chocks — no cheating!) and let it go. You can actually do this with any size ball; I just hate waste so I’m trying to find some use for all that basketball equipment (even “that ring”).

If the world were truly round, the ball would roll away from you, in any direction. Since it sits in place (try it, you’ll see), obviously, ipso-facto, the world must be flat!

The science is set! The evidence is right in front of us. Any flat-earth deniers must therefore be hateful, regressive morons unable to be led to the inconvenient Truth! You should all be put in jail for your own good!

Flat Earth! Flat Earth! Flat Earth! (repeat until everyone leaves…)

I don’t it’s just fun, I think it’s more like the people are practicing their argument skills. We have a head of department guy at work who always loves discussing stuff to death and it doesn’t matter if he actually agrees with you ot not, he will argument against you until you yield or give up. It’s a passion of his, and because he is a very intelligent person he can pick you apart in very smart ways.

I’m guessing that the “flat earth” people are people just like him with the exception of that they have realized that’s it’s better to take that shit on an anonymous website so that their friends and colleagues don’t start alienating them.

Ok, the earth is flat. I accept.
But where is the hollow earth?

The flat earth society has members all around the globe :smiley:

Here is flat, flat elsewhere. :arrow_right: It will be such a global problem. :wink:

I thought we were not supposed to discuss religion here at BLF.
That said I think this thread is much fun!

I think there’s that, and it’s also practicing the art of thinking out of the box and thinking in new and unusual ways away from conventional thinking and thinking that “you’re used to” so that you can come up with new ideas and new solutions to problems.

In the video that thijsco19 posted, they mentioned that for a rotating flat earth disc, buildings at the edge of the disc would be slanted away. Whoa, that’s a cool concept. Would that actually be true? I have no idea, and I don’t feel like sitting down and thinking it through all of the details right now. But it IS a cool concept and it DOES stir the imagination and make you think of all sorts of what-if scenarios.

You know what it actually reminds me of? Special relativity. Conventional thinking says that time is constant. Conventional thinking says that mass is constant. Conventional thinking says that if you throw something off a moving object, you add the velocities. That doesn’t work with the speed of light, which is ALWAYS constant. How do you solve this problem? You break out of conventional thinking, you make the speed of light constant, and bend all of the other properties of physics around it. It’s the same type of thinking with the flat earth theory.

Like really…
The whole idea people thought the earth is flat during medieval times is bullocks.
Indians calculated the earths size long before we could confirm it.
The misconception comes from an old novel about Columbus where it was romanticized that people thought earth is flat.
Columbus only thought the earth to be smaller that is all.

So now a bunch of trolls have the flat earth club lol
Join them or the inflating earth society and while you are at it please make a free-energy-tesla-1-liter-water-powers-a-whole-house-for-a-100-years-producing-2-kilo-of-gold-from-air-every-day generator will you :wink:

Come on, now, The Miller. There’s no need to go busting up our fun with your boring facts and your dusty old history! I mean, if everybody Knew Things, there would be no need for YouTube! What fun would that be??

:partying_face: :+1: :smiley: :wink: :wink:

(Seriously, even the Greeks (I mean the Democrats, not the Socialists) not only knew the shape of the world, but even had a reasonably good idea of its size. Not that they were even the first! How old is Stonehenge? They understood Celestial Mechanics in England before there were English! And the Chinese! Don’t get me started on the Chinese! They measured and documented the correlation between Earth’s climate and Sun Spot Cycles before Europeans even knew there was a China! That kind of “common knowledge” requires a lot deeper understanding than just the shape of the planet.

Apparently, “Flat Earth” was no more than a means of demonizing “different people” during the Reformation. A memetic tool haters used to spread their hate. (Sound familiar, in the 21st Century?)

If we can’t pick on Flat-Earthers, who can we pick on?)