The ITP A2 is very bright on a 14500 ... You need to chose a light for the battery you wish to run ... Small bodied flashlights will warm up on a 14500 ...
Going AA you will always lose output when comparing to 14500
The ITP A2 is very bright on a 14500 ... You need to chose a light for the battery you wish to run ... Small bodied flashlights will warm up on a 14500 ...
Going AA you will always lose output when comparing to 14500
Thanks for the replys
@Vectrex
- AA-S1 it's an OSRAM light, while K2 have Q5. Did you tried your AA-S1 with AA or 14500? If K2 is brighter than AA-S1 with 14500... makes me think... OSRAM better than Q5?
- Yep, build quality is great on my K2, HAIII, waterproof and so on. And yes, it cost me about $35. The review I saw @ http://www.light-reviews.com/ helps me in my decision. Constant brightness is great, good regulation.
- Will take those Hugsby into account
- Yes, most driver can't be good for AA/14500 equally, but at least I know that it will work properly on AA and 14500 without burning the driver. As fran82 says in one of those Hugsby threads: "... if you have an emergency, i.e. a black out, or a hurricane, earthquake, flood, tornado, etc and you have not 14500 or dont have electricity in your house to charge it, you will be fuc***..." So, prefer sacrifice a little power, but have a light that is compatible with AA and 14500 Good lumens btw.
- I saw this C7 review. Looks like tactical version is better (a little bit brighter and has better regulation). http://www.light-reviews.com/itp_c7_tactical/
- Is K106 programmable is better than normal K106? Looks like the second one is brighter, and I don't mind switch between modes (although I don't like strobe or SOS modes)
P.D.: thanks for all those links, vectrex, good job ;)
@sb56637
Thanks. The runtime is not a problem. One question: why do you (and others) recommend AA-S1? Is it better than K106/F20 with Q5? Don't mind pay 3 bucks more for K106 if it's brighter.
@old4570
- A2 brighter than C7?
- "Going AA you will always lose output when comparing to 14500 " - Will lose output comparing to exclusively 14500 flashlight or you mean in general? I know that 14500 is much brighter than AA.
Thanks for your help!
EDIT: looks very interesting new Ultrafire U20 with XP-G R5.
If you want a nice AA light , AA-S1 is very good on AA's ...
If you want to run 14500 with AA for back up . Akoray AK-16 ...
I tested the Uniquefire AA-S1 , and got up to 120 Lumen on Alkalines , and 130L on Nimh , and I thought the 14500 was maybe overdoing it [ 200+ ] , I sent it of as a gift , as it was very nice ..
I need to pick up a few more as I was impressed by it ... For under $10 shipped
No problem Sashix... links are why we are here. I don't own any 14500... so my view is very heavily focused on max output on AA's and I really despise strobe modes, especially on lights with memory. This is why I would favour the programmable K106, if I had 14500's, but it lacks in the AA department.(review1,review2,review3) But the TrustFire R5-A3 seems to be good on both battery types.
Also it seems I'm the only one with second thoughts about the Uniquefire AA-S1. I liked it at first, when I thought it was a warm tint with the Osram emitter, but later I found out it was actually yellow, like with a yellow lens in front, but everybody else seems to love it here, so my model might have been faulty, or a bad exception. Also don't forget that the S1 is single-mode and you wanted multi-mode.
The K-106 in Don's table might be the non-programmable... at least that is, what it is linked to, but here the top of the pops:
On AA'S | |||||||
EastwardYJ J09 High | AA NiMH | 916 | 750 | 706 | 164 | 135 | 127 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | AA NiMH | 718 | 620 | 574 | 129 | 111 | 103 |
Ultrafire C3 Grey Q5 | AA NiMH | 664 | 629 | 596 | 119 | 113 | 107 |
Hugsby P32 High | AA NiMH | 650 | 597 | 554 | 117 | 107 | 99 |
Trustfire R5-A3 High | AA NiMH | 650 | 117 | 0 | 0 | ||
Aurora SH-035 | AA NiMH | 644 | 116 | 0 | 0 | ||
Trustfire F22 | AA NiMH | 586 | 105 | 0 | 0 | ||
Uniquefire S10 | AA NiMH | 575 | 103 | 0 | 0 | ||
Uniquefire AA-S1 | AA NiMH | 565 | 557 | 531 | 101 | 100 | 95 |
Akoray K-106 | AA NiMH | 189 | 198 | 198 | 34 | 36 | 36 |
On 14500's | |||||||
Trustfire R5-A3 | 14500 | 1630 | 1482 | 1416 | 292 | 266 | 254 |
Ultrafire C3 SS Q5 | 14500 | 1391 | 1259 | 1122 | 250 | 226 | 201 |
Ultrafire C3 Grey Q5 | 14500 | 1359 | 1205 | 1149 | 244 | 216 | 206 |
Ultrafire C3 (P4) No. 2 | 14500 | 1347 | 1118 | 1089 | 242 | 201 | 195 |
Uniquefire AA-S1 | 14500 | 1255 | 1183 | 1162 | 225 | 212 | 208 |
Trustfire F22 | 14500 | 1254 | 1128 | 1030 | 225 | 202 | 185 |
Ultrafire C3 (P4) No. 3 | 14500 | 1176 | 1099 | 977 | 211 | 197 | 175 |
Hugsby P31 with P32 Gold driver | 14500 | 1176 | 1084 | 1064 | 211 | 194 | 191 |
Uniquefire S10 | 14500 | 1112 | 1017 | 962 | 199 | 182 | 173 |
Akoray K-106 | 14500 | 1055 | 1019 | 1004 | 189 | 183 | 180 |
I ordered the grey C3 Q5, as I want to see if it is really brighter on 1xAA than the Hugsby and brighter on 2XAA than the Solarforce L2R, but that one is only single-mode.
The ITP C7 may be one of my next elected...I have no flashlight with IBS system.
In the range of the cheaps,maybe you should consider the Ultrafire C3 SS. Very good amount of light as both AA & 14500 (5 modes although)
I'm actually planning to put a R5 in the C3 SS,although with no specific reflector ...
While it is true that the UF20 promises...if the driver holds the 14500 without burning the driver (Waiting confirmation of this).
Hi there SashiX. In terms of brightness, the Akoray K-106 3-mode programmable is not the brightest. The cheaper K-106/F20 are somewhat brighter than the K-106 3-mode programmable version. But the AA-S1 is far brighter and has an incredibly beautiful beam. But I personally prefer the flexibility of the K-106 3-mode. Another decent option is the Ultrafire M2, which is very bright on high, and it still has a decent runtime on low mode.
It is a programmable one. I was fiddling with it recently to see how low it would go.
The link is what I actually bought, most of those links come from my DX account history. But at the time they were shipping the 3 mode programmable though they claimed it was the less useful 6 mode.
Makes sense. Pity I didn't notice the link was to YouTube till I'd stuck it on the spreadsheet. Ah well, off to KD to play hunt-the-link. It will be sorted shortly.
lol, the new spitting image flashlight, look at post #3, there is the needed link to KD.
@old4570
- "If you want to run 14500 with AA for back up . Akoray AK-16 ..."
Akoray AK-16? Do you mean K-106?
As for SS-A1... good light for less than 10 bucks indeed.
@Vectrex
Yeah, don't know why almost all lights have SOS, strobe modes. I think momentary-on switch is much useful.
- "but later I found out it was actually yellow, like with a yellow lens in front, but everybody else seems to love it here, so my model might have been faulty, or a bad exception"
Yes, could be a batch issue. I've seen many lights (C3 for example) that had different tints, depending on when they were purchased/batch.
- "Also don't forget that the S1 is single-mode and you wanted multi-mode."- Well, If the light is only AA, could be an option, but if it's AA/14500... multimode is a must I think, because on 14500 it will be twise as bright.
Interesting results I see... Hm K-106 really sucks on AA... Can't believe it, so loooow lumen Well, on 14500 also. R5-A3 an C3 SS have great output.
@XRAYboy
Yes, C3 SS is a good choice apparently. Will wait review from Don. Looks like he bought U20. Or not?
@sb56636
Haven't found M2 @ DX or LT Where I can found it?
We should make a fundraiser to let Don buy every interesting light that is new... what are a few hundred lights more or less... right Don?
Thx for the links, Vectrex
sb56637, have you tried your M2 with 14500? Very similar to K106/F20/AA-S1 body.
I have the Akoray AK-16 , 3 mode programmable , AA - 14500 - CR123A [ very nice ]
No, sorry, I actually don't own any 14500 cells. But I'm almost positive that it will work well with 14500, because it appears to be a rebadged Akoray K-106 6-mode, which according to the reviews is bright and reliable on 14500.
Ok, guys, thx to all your posts on this forum, now I know much more things about lights, etc So, now I have a bunch good lights to choose from. Also want to buy a relatively good multi charger (should be multi because I plan to buy 18600 in the future). Matt, I think you have tested most chargers available today in the market, hehe , which would you recommend? Xtar 2 bay that you suggested me before? Or Shekor? Or Ultrafire? In my opinion Xtar will be better choice.
Another thing. The friend of mine want to buy a good 1xAA light with the best/brigtest spill posible. He really need a good spill, less than brightest hotspot. What do you recommend? Of course we are talking about budget lights, about $20. Thanks in advance ;)
Uniquefire AA-S1 - if necessary hit the reflector with some hairspray to farther diffuse the beam.
I totally agree with Don´s suggestion. The AA S1 has a wide beam and a nice ww natural color. 10$ Cheap!
Also easy modable. Just buy the ak-47 and you have a Li-Ion only 5 mode (or the modes you want by bridging the stars)
Also can use another 17mm driver or smaller and make multimode. AA or 14500, as you want!
Will ask my friend if he want a single mode light or multimode. The AA-S1 has the best spill with AA, 14500 or both?