A statment:the COMETA flashlight is not a Jaxman product

> the link of Banggood you give us is a old version Jaxman Z1 .

What is different between the old version and current version?
Can people like us tell by looking at a web page whether it’s the old version or the current one?
Can you suggest a reseller that has your current version for sale?

Thank you for commenting. It is very good to have direct words between us and the people making the flashlights.

hi, Hank, the on-sale Jaxman Z1 is a 4th version. The adjust is mainly pointed to little range alternations,such as O rings slot,threads length,head ring shape,lens coating,and accessories. I confirm the link mentioned is the old version because Logo is still JAX.JAX has cant be resigstered by China Industry and Commercial Government.So we registered JAXMAN as our normal trade mark,and we have regisitered successfully.From 2016.03.21 to 2026.03.20, is the 1st legal protection 10 years of the trade mark.

Because of many reseller wont tell us their trade name overseas,so we only know 2 of them,one is Banggood, and the other is HK equipment.I has found AD of HK equipment here. You can contact HK equipment for more information.

Best regards

hi Kenjii,ok. You can mail to me or message here.
Are you in Germany? we have a dealer in South Germany,Markdorf

Have a nice day.

Hi Jaxman,

im in, pls put me down for 1 NW

Jaxman Z1 BLF edition

- i ld prefer another UI: TK bistro BLF

- 1 cell working, 2 only as option

  • max. throw with neutral tint

thx

@cyberscudo: im in the cometa list, EU warehouse #165 and #166. As i cannot post there pls take it from here and cancel for now #166, THX.

It has taken BangGood about 6 weeks to comment on here after they were first made aware of all the problems with the Cometa.
Even then all they have said is
“we are sorry for using JAXMAN’s outlook,
the COMETA is a customized light with BLF X5/X6’s driver.
The lens are not from JAXMAN and structure has some change.”
So they have apologised to Jaxman for misleading buyers into thinking the light was made by Jaxman but not a word about the problems with the Cometa.
No apology to buyers for misleading them.
No mention if they are working on resolving any of the multiple problems with this light.
They have added an insulating disc to the underside of the pill, that was not on the early lights that were sold, but that seems to be as far as they have gone.
CPF Italia have been waiting at least 4 weeks for their lights but have had no word from BG as to when they can expect them or if any modifications have or will be carried out to them to address the problems.
Personally I suspect that there will be no modifications carried out other than the addition of the pill insulating disc, which only addresses one of the lights problems, as if there are then they will have to offer these modifications or new modified lights to everyone that has already received one.
:frowning:

Hi Bella,
you know, that i m expecting your
Jaxman Z1 xhp50 review :smiley:

Hopefully I will have it in about 12-14 days time :slight_smile:
I will do a full review & should have a working calibrated light tube by then so will be able to give some reasonably accurate figures as well :slight_smile:
I am pretty sure my experience with it will be the complete polar opposite to my experience with the Cometa”s I have received :wink:

Well it was me seeing an interesting correlation between 100 lenses bought and roughly 100 Cometas sold and dead silence on the remaining 400 :wink:
IDK if the lenses used are jaxs or not.

OOH Bella-Headlight, that sounds great!

Reading this thread is interesting.

jaxman, through no fault of his own; is accused by some to be complicit in this Cometa debacle.
Even after both Banggood & Mankerlight posts indicate he is not in any way.

Why was he accused of this in the first place?
It seems he sold Banggood “about 100 pcs Z1 ar+af lenses for aftersale service”. Where is the ‘crime’ in that??

Thank goodness many more people than not openly expressed their support of jaxman as well as him coming forth with the information he began this thread with.
Hats off to him for being straight forward. :+1:

The people who could have answered questions and helped avoid most, if not all of the uproar about this light; have been woefully absent from all Cometa threads and all but silent since the release of the lights. No meaningful communication at all.
And it has been mentioned that people are still waiting for replies from Cyberescudo and/or Banggood for solutions.
Just how long should that take???
This was all mentioned somewhat in THIS POST however.

And please don’t bring up the offer of an “insulating ring/washer” as meaningful.

The Cometa threads are full of contradictions, misdirection, misrepresentation, unfounded “hype”, and some truth also…… all mixed together in the posts of huge unmanageable threads.

But, the truth of what really happened is in the posts of those threads.
Most people will not take or do not have the time to read every post in every thread.

But until you have read them all, at least once; it will just remain a convoluted mess in your mind and commentary will only be speculation. Which will in turn add more to the “convoluted mess”.

And yes, in case anyone is wondering; I have read every post… at least one time. Just so happens I had the spare time & did it. That time ends in a couple of days though…… back to the grind.

For instance, was this a collaboration between the BLF Team and CPFi?
Sure it was, we were told that back in January.

And this innocent statement should have been a red flag also.

These two little tidbits are but the tiny tip of the iceberg. The rest of the story & answers are hiding in plain sight in the massive Cometa threads.

If you really honestly want to get an idea of what really happened, get your reading glasses and have at it. :+1:

Sigh…. What a mess! It has cost too much time of all BLFers!

It seems that the COMETA was prepared many weeks ago. During this time, no any party tell us about the Group buy of Z1 type lens torch by BLF guys. And the Banggood had purchased about 100 pcs lens at 2 times total, and we never would like to sell the lens to any dealer. While according to the good relationship between a manucaturer and a transfer-seller of Jaxman products, we have to sell 100 pcs to Banggood as they said ”repaire parts”.

As a merchant, honest should be the first principle to hold. As a partner, you cant cheat us so fully. And we never think a modification of drive and LED is a obvious innovation. In fact a XPL HI lamp is not proper for Z1,so we wont develop XPL hi version Z1.The XPL HI spot will have a square around the lightest area. XML (2),XPG (2),XHP, even xpl are without this problem.

As customizing product for BLF, we would like of course. And my English is not good, so we may have negotiation hazards. I would like to hear simple solutions of customization for BLF. Pls don’t make simple things to a mess. I would like to hear from you via zx.bao@foxmail.com.

really,Most people will not take or do not have the time to read every post in every thread!

Please read about the driver we have developed in the Q8 topic (first link sig)
The parts should fit a 22mm board
The Narsil software is about ideal for all type of flashlight and gives user total control how to operate the flashlight.
It is however for a electronic switch.
The Bistro of course works great with tail clickers, again packed with options so users can choose how to operate the light themselves.

EDIT PS I won’t email you, we are working with Thorfire on the Q8 :wink:

> Why was he accused of this in the first place?

Well, think about it.

Remember people jumping all over me — and others — repeatedly in public posts?
I got a belated apology in PM but nobody else sees that.

Accusations come because people who already know there hasn’t been an answer
keep chanting that there must be an answer and it must be someone’s fault.

That is just not the right way to have a group public conversation.

The threads you mention were littered with accusations that people have later regretted.

Yet, if people go back to edit out their mistakes the whole thread pops up as new to everyone,
and then others get all jumped up about that.

Catch-22.
Our host wisely cleaned out a lot of the stuff.
But you know there really is one good answer.

Don’t hit SEND.

Drop it and wait.
You won’t get an answer until there’s an answer.
If the screwup gets swept under the rug, well, that happens with bigger things than flashlights.

My advice about the past problem:
—- calmly and repeatedly post a review on the seller’s web page.
You may never see your review appear.
But those get noticed in ways blog posts do not.

Most of China is behind a firewall and they can’t — reliably — even read what’s written here.
_

Most encouraging news yet —- the exchange between Jaxman and Sharpie, just above.

That’s got to happen outside the public thread.

Trust them to work on it.

We already know the other half — trust but verify.

Let’s polish up our QA and QC competence, eh?
We ought to be able to get good at it.

Thank you jaxman!
I appreciate your principles, integrity, ethics, & honesty; as well as you sharing them here. :+1: … :slight_smile:
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I am waiting to receive the Z1 I ordered yesterday…… it will be my first “Real” JaxMan, but not my last.

Just a small note that we are in at least two boats - In one are the people already spend money for a bad product and in the other the remaining.
I expect the forum to press as far as can Banggood so that they can make a statement that will return money on request without intervention by PayPal, etc.

If you did buy a Cometa
go to the sales page
and write a review
calmly and clearly
mentioning the several problems
and the partial fix
and the need to warn prospective purchasers.

You may never see your review appear.
That’s a problem we can’t fix.

However

you may be very surprised to find that
the people reading your submitted review
can offer you something surprising.

I don’t like their approach of fixing one person’s complaint at a time.
I don’t like their approach of refunding money instead of posting bad reviews.
I don’t like their notion that if they refund the money they don’t need to publish your review.
I do notice they have given refunds to some people.
That seems to be one way to get noticed. Submit a review on the purchase page.

Recreational typing doesn’t help. Really. It doesn’t even get seen in China, most likely.

Go to the sale page where you bought the Comenta.
Submit a review, calmly, clearly, pointing out the problems as a caution for others.

Realize they don’t want to publish bad reviews.
But the people who read the draft reviews have some different leverage somehow to get you a refund.
Because they don’t want you as a purchaser, because as a purchaser you can keep submitting reviews.
If they refund you, you no longer get the “review” button offered.

Cute, huh? That’s how they roll.

It might work. Try submitting a draft review on the page where you bought the light. See what happens.


Oh… I read a report somewhere that claimed like 190kcd or something like that. Nevermind!

The majority of flashlight enthusiasts and flashlight modders on this forum prefer XPL HI over XML2 in aspheric lens zoom flashlights. The reason for this is simple:

If you just want a good flood light, you’re better off going with a typical reflector light or a multi-emitter light. Such lights tend to produce much more usable short range flood than any light with an aspheric lens.

The main reason to get a light with an aspheric zoom lens is to get good throw. Sure these lights also provide adequate flood when needed, but the shift to a laser-like spot beam is what is most attractive about them.

This is why until recently, many people on this forum were installing dedomed XPG2 emitters in their lights. The tint was crap, but it gave the maximum possible throw.

Comparing XPL HI to XML2:

  • XPL HI produces around 15% less total light than XML2 (measured in lumens).
  • XPL HI produces a spot beam that has approximately 50% more throw than XML2 (measured in lux).

So for a slightly reduction in lumens you get vastly more throw…. and unlike with dedomed XPG2, XPL HI does not have a greenish tint, making it the preferred emitter for many throw lights.

Does XPL HI have a slightly brighter square around the spot beam in throw mode? Yes. The flat silicone lens on the emitter overhangs the die. The image of the emitter projected by the lens shows this. Does this look uglier than the image of an XML2? In my opinion, no. Virtually all CREE emitters look ugly when focused for maximum throw through an aspheric lens. This is ok though as it is only an issue for white-wall hunting. It is not a problem in real-world use. If you want a pretty spot beam, use Nichia 219C.

To summarize:
Having owned dozens of zoom lights with XML2, XPL and XPL HI, I think you’re making a mistake going with XML2. XPL HI is a better emitter for this type of light. It’s one of the reasons the Cometa project was so attractive… the enthusiasts and modders on this forum did not need to replace the XML2 themselves.

Hi,

could be a bad aspherical lens.

Regards

Kenjii

I don’t agree with that at all. :confounded:

The wide bright consistent flood is the reason why I buy light’s such as the Jax Z1, I like the fact I can adjust the flood when needed.

A typical reflector light will not produce a flood to match that of an aspherical light as you don’t have the consistency of brightness across the area you’re illuminating.