[2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

Post counts mean nothing to me. My thing is helping people when I can, and learning from others here. All of a sudden a thread came up called “Evil stupid people in the world. :(”, so I commented on an evil person who ruined hundreds of people’s lives. Yes I said some bad words because I wss upset. It’s the kind of language I’m used to in real life, and I’m sure most of you use the same language as I. This isn’t Leave It To Beaver. I don’t know, maybe I’m making a bigger deal out of this than it’s worth :frowning:

I rather liked Leave it to Beaver :innocent:

Petticoat Junction was just too risque :blush:

Earlier in the thread I noted:

Ya know, tallying clicks on that sort of response might be useful as feedback, at that.

I have all the Leave it to Beaver’s on DVD :slight_smile: Same with The Munsters, Car 54, and others. I love those old shows.

@atbglenn - Yep, its all about helping were you can here on BLF. Sometimes I see a simple question posted by a new user go unanswered for a long time. Anytime I come across a question that I can help with, I answer it. Just take the time and do it. I've learned quite a bit here and have amassed an obscene amount of flashlights and flashlight related items in the time I have been here. I have a lot of valuable knowledge that I love passing on.

I’m just looking forward to seeing what BLF will be like after the new feature isn’t so new and shiny. It has only been 4 days, so we don’t really know yet what the results will be after everything is settled.

Then why are you still here? I think it’s rude you stick around and dog everyone about this. You violated all the rules except rude with one post, and ever since then you have been arguing it was not rude, so it was ok.
It’s a feature now. Please be nicer.

I very quickly skimmed your link, and i disagree
Divisiveness is not the problem, racism, sexism, abuse, elistism and religious “superiority” are the problems. As a society we don’t want to give up looking down on others and justify it with whatever sledge hammer we can come up with. Then we explain it and rationalize it away.

I'm fairly certain that the immediate impact, due to the new feature has been a total reduction in post count for the day. I you don't count this thread. Also, people will be thinking twice about what they are posting.

this thread is popular as pie :smiley:
In the end this issue will disappear into ether, and life goes on

One definition of (Rude), adjective

offensively impolite or ill-mannered.
"she had been rude to her boss"
synonyms: ill-mannered, bad-mannered, impolite, discourteous, uncivil, ill-behaved, unmannerly, mannerless; impertinent, insolent, impudent, disrespectful, cheeky; churlish, curt, brusque, brash, offhand, short, sharp; offensive, insulting, derogatory, disparaging, abusive; tactless, undiplomatic, uncomplimentary...

The more I think about it, the more I dislike the “My Rudeness Level” meter. I feel like I’m being watched with accusing eyes who think that I’m going to be rude. It’s like going into a store and the people behind the counter are watching you, thinking you’re going to steal something. It’s doesn’t feel very welcoming, especially if you’re a new user who doesn’t understand where this rudeness meter comes from.

Maybe the “My Rudeness Level” needs a different name, but I can’t think of a good one. Or maybe move the meter to somewhere in the Accounts section.

Agreed, for the past couple days the first thing I check when I enter BLF is the rudeness meter, and it makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable, like if I’m expecting to be judged. I think it should be hidden until certain points are reached.

Some of the most popular “forums” on the internet have system of varying feedback in place. Reddit is huge and relies heavily on community feedback. Social sites like Facebook or Instagram wouldn’t function without likes and….whatever Instagram has (hearts?). The rudeness meter is nothing but a simplified version of those things (although strictly speaking it does have a more negative focus). I think its a good change and thinking twice before posting, and maybe posting less edgy content overall, is probably a good change for us all.

Agreed. I think it’s already working by just appearing there. We may never know the number of sentences that are edited before even going live just to be more accepted.

Hm.

Could it first open the BLF Rules page, then ask for confirmation while there?

Heck, if we’re postulating the first-time c-less n-bies, “BLF Rules” could be read as simple self-congratulatory cheerleadinging, rather than a link to the site’s rules for posting.

[crowd noise] B! L! F! [lather rinse repeat]

No, I’m still joking here, put down that programmer.

People can figure this out, even on a first visit by someone new to the whole online thing.

They start online at around age 5 nowadays, don’t they?

Oh, I don’t mean there is only one issue. There are many, and the ones you brought up are important too. :slight_smile:

They all have a tendency to build on each other though, and interact in complex ways. Avoiding certain topics, such as religion and politics, can be just as important as avoiding certain methods, such as “othering” people and escalating conflicts. BLF has rules about both “what” and “how”, since either one tends to cause problems.

This is why this rudeness thing needs to end, and now. I have 13 at this moment. If I lose my account, I’d be upset because I like being here. But if I do, so be it. I have nothing against anyone here. But I think this new feature is going to cause problems amongst us members.

Come on Glenn, SB has not been replaced with a forum hating robot, nothing has really changed except he made it easier to pinpoint problem posts with some community help. Destroying America by not approving of those who denigrate others is about as likely as cigarettes not causing cancer :person_facepalming:

What i am basically saying is if people want to get along they can choose to. We have problems because they don’t and rationalize it away.