[2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

this is what will be left of the forum:

Yeppers

Well, no. You just have to follow sb’s rules. Read the rules if you need to, 90% of the forum already follow the rules 90% of the time, including you glenn. You broke a couple rules in a post, recognized it, and deleted the post. Done. Perfect. That’s the point.

I know buddy. I’m only human, and sometimes I get a bit emotional about certain topics which I won’t mention. I’ll do my best to avoid anything controversial from now on.

> only human

Better than the alternative:

Hat tip to: The RISKS Digest Volume 29 Issue 56

Hi there, it’s not permanent.

As was already mentioned, it’s already been possible to misuse the spam button with the same intentions, with the added risk of an automated account ban. It just hasn’t been a major problem thus far. (The case where a long-time respected member was temporarily banned was used to refine the system so that can’t happen any more, in the case of the spam button.) So far, almost all of the “Rude!” button clicks seem legitimate (apart from users testing it), used on posts that really did have the potential to or already were sparking arguments. The majority of the flagged posts still remain visible, and there is no evidence of manipulation.

With that being said, just as has always been the case with the spam button, any attempts to manipulate or “game” the system are easily traceable and will very likely result in a permanent ban.

And one other detail: Please don’t use the “Rude!” button on obvious spam posts. Instead, only use the spam button for that purpose, just as you’ve always done.

Hackers need not apply or your gone!

sb56637: Can you put an option to hide the rude meter until it increases to a certain number? I don’t like seeing the “My Rudeness Level” every time I scroll down. I don’t intend to be rude, controversial, or attack anyone at a personal level, so I don’t need the constant presence of a rude meter to remind me (or nag me) to not be rude.

A lot of worries have been expressed, but I’m not really worried about the rude button. It lets people know when they may have gone too far, in case that matters to them. And it lets Sb see more easily where problems most likely are, by letting the community vote on what is a problem. So, as usual, BLF’s problems will be dealt with — only more efficiently and with more community input, and people automatically get warned first.

It seems better than the alternative, where Sb’s daily load gets bigger and bigger and he’s expected to make decisions without much input from others.

Some interesting hypothetical problems have been brought up, but I prefer to prioritize issues which are actually happening over ones which aren’t.

The only time I’ve used the spam button is for those first-time poster Kitchen sales people. That really annoys the crap out of me.

kitchen sales are the best game on BLF! I’ve gotten 15+

Hey sb, how about a counter on how many kitchen sales ads we’ve hit “Spam” on before they disappeared? :slight_smile::slight_smile:

I like it, I like it!

Thanks a lot ToyKeeper for your pragmatism! :+1:

This is a big one for me. I don’t give other users moderator permissions here because it’s extremely hard for a moderator to be objective and fair 100% of the time. And as a matter of fact I don’t even entirely trust myself as a good moderator. Certain people and certain issues personally rub me the wrong way, and there are others that I would tend to view with much more leniency. But it’s not all about me, and the Rudeness Level will be a huge help as a quantifiable meter that I can take into account when I inevitably have to make hard moderation decisions.

Ughhhh tell me about it! :person_facepalming: I don’t know how we got on their list as a target, but they’re enough to make a grown man cry.

I always wondered about that. At least they’re zapped quickly enough

The threads you mention about new members saying nothing in my book is from the spammers. This wont be stopped.
As far as thread bloat goes stop the continued quoting of quoted posts to the point they cannot be read. a bit like how this post is going.
I agree with the ones that mentioned that it is better to give a personal thanks in writing rather than hit a button.

Unfortunately I don’t know how to achieve that on a technical level, my apologies. But I agree it was kind of a big ugly blob in the middle of the panel, so I added a “rudeness” label inside the meter and removed the big title.

Thanks! Much better now…