Low-cost copper pills, spacers, optics, drop-ins (Updated 23/10/2022))

I received my super set of everything. Yes, Russian Post does seem to be working very well. Very satisfied. Everything was even organized for use. Many thanks again!!

Just got the X5 spacers, nice quick shipping.

Cant wait to try them out. i’ll try and post some pics of the end result. :smiley:

Hi,

the X5 spacer and more came in yesterday. The spacer fits perfect. I love it! All parts as described and pretty fast shipping.

Regards

Kenjii

Very nice Kenji, those Nichias must be drawing serious amps…

@Kiriba: can you make X5 spacers to fit the khatod optic? If you look at the spec sheet you will see the exact dimensions, and able to adjust the heatsink to the correct height.

However the optic is not a direct fit into the X5, part of the body must be filed to fit the legs. Ouchyfoot has done it…

As for wether this optic is several times better than a carclo, Dale has done a comparison between the two and the khatod was more efficient, and gave a much better beam.

1. This host fits 24mm optics perfectly. If somebody like to use 25.4mm optics under 24mm bezel hole, this is not me. And I dont think lots of you want to put o-ring away and have non-waterproof flashlight.
2. I hate semi-ready (there should be better word. How do you call all this food that need just to be heated up and it came full ready?) decisions. Not long time ago I had made first X6 triple, and what can I say, it was awfull! I was ready to pay any extra money to have noctigon pcb already sanded to 31.5mm. I can’t understand why nobody offer such deals, it is not very smart when hundreds of members use hand/dremel and waist lots of time in work when somebody can make lots of this pcbs ready for use with machinary very fast.
3. I still havent seen any measurements, except of those which had made dsche several years ago. And he said that carclo is better.
If you have made lots of reviews, have luxmeter and other tools, contact me and I will add one khatod quad optics to your order for free to make tests.

I have 2 question regarding the X5 quad…
The Astrolux Sc host from banggood , does it have a switch pcb ?
And , kiriba , where you got the Khatod optics from ?

The copper x5’s from banggood do not come with the switch at the end, a 16mm switch from a convoy S2+/S3 will work.

I just received my triple pill and triple spacer for the s2+, that pill is serious chunk of copper and sure will do nice heatsinking job.

Thanks Kirill :slight_smile:

Thanks Kirill
I received my X5 spacers and optics today. Very nice packaging indeed.

I could probably order a few more things from you, but, it looks like we’re headed for a postal strike, so I better wait.

Got my x6 spacers today. Can’t wait to get building

Ordered 4 copper pills for S2+ single emitter. All items were protected very well in the package.

I personally do not mind the dark rings. Just for experimentation i tried goo gone with a brush and was able to remove the dark rings.

The threads are good no issue at all :+1:

B158 pills received. Very nice - thank you!

I`m still not sure that Khatod quad optics may work better with big leds than Carclo one, but seems that nobody wants to test them and lots of NA members want to use Khatod.
X5 is not good choise for it, but Convoy M2 looks like something very suitable.
Conv. kit for M2 will look similar to X5 for Carclo, with rim for pcb centering, and will consist from two parts (still haven`t designed upper one cause I think that stock 28x26x1mm o-ring should be changed to the thicker one).
On the other side, M2 spacer for Carclo will be taller and can weight about 60gr.
Which one would you prefer? Price will be about $10.

I hate the M2. M1 is way better. The M2 has that stupid deep shiny bezel so the lens is recessed way too far back. Same goes for the Trustfire A8… I don’t know why they thought it would be good to have the lens so far back in the light., and the wide shiny bezel is just there to cause an ugly purple aurora.

Peter, give me several minutes more, M1 is under construction.

I’m also interested in a M1 kit.

M2 have one more issue, I dont think this is good when ss bezel is rubbing glass.
M1 seems little bigger for 24mm optics as for me. I thought it can be used with 27-30mm single optics.
If making quad, hole between bezel and the optics will look not good, so in spite of the fact that it has a normal o-ring between glass and the bezel it would be better to make the second part (small ring from SS or brass) to hide this hole and center the optics.

Take your time Kirill.
In the meantime, I’ll talk about the Khatod. I’ve been experimenting with this because nobody else has. I usually post my builds and thoughts in the mod thread so others can decide. If I have a fail, I post that too. I have yet to build a light with the 24mm Carlco, but now that I have some of kirills kits, that’s next. Too bad Banggood discontinued the S2/X5 hosts. I had four on backorder.

I’m mostly using the 35mm Khatod because it gives me option for hosts I didn’t have before, since I can sand it down anywhere between 35mm and 25mm without touching the optical cones.
It can be tricky, and great care should be observed when installing since it was really designed for smaller emitters such as Rebels and XPC. The aperture is shallow and one must be careful that it doesn’t crush emitters such as XP-G3 and Nichia. So far I haven’t had any problems, but care must be taken. Next, I’ll probably try it with Nichia 219C and an M1.

This optic is just something I chose to experiment with since they’re readily available to me …$$$$ although a little pricy.

I will repeat what I have wrote several days ago.
I hate semi-ready decisions.
If I provide transformation kit, it should be “bolt-on”.
I understand that here are few guys that like to work with hands several more hours, but I will become the bankrupt if I will order parts by 1 or 2pcs in batch. Most BLF members are simple users, and items that I provide should be usable for most of them.

I understand completely which is why I’m pointing out that khatods are not for everyone. They are not “out of the box” ready to be plunked into a light. They need to be worked on and adjusted. I’m not even sure yet if an XP-L hi will fit in them. So as part of a ready to go “kit”, not the easiest way to go, and less experienced builders could have problems with broken emitters just trying to install them.