Various lights with lumen estimates

Uh look:

- Sort and filter without modifying underlying data.

http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=139561

I took a look, but it is an editing operation unfortunately. It will not let me save it in that configuration without making it globally writeable.

The Publish HTML I tried didn't work here, it didn't update when I changed it immediately afterwards. And it and Drupal seemed to be fighting over the formatting.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI4M3JYMUVwM0E&single=true&gid=1&output=html

is the republished link. Not sure if that'll do any good though.

What I have done is made a copy of the master sheet that it editable by anyone. Since I can revert it in seconds as it is a copy of the main sheet, feel free to play with it.

The link is.

I took a look, but it is an editing operation unfortunately.

It's not. List view is usable in read-only. I did it in http://budgetlightforum.cz.cc/node/505?page=2#comment-9691

Effectively it is, as with my Webkit browser (If it'll work with another browser please let me know) there is no way to save it in that configuration which means I can't publish it that way or produce a link to it. It would have helped if I'd checked this while not logged in.

Except I'm speaking rubbish - it seems that anyone can look at it and use list view. I thought I had to enable it as the owner of the spreadsheet. If you use the recent link I posted, you have access to an editable sheet that anyone can do anything they want with. Since it is a copy of a protected sheet, it is no big deal for me to reset it.

You don't need to save it in that config. Any user can put it into list view. The sheet is also accessible via its "lv" url:

for example if you decide to change the "default" view for sort, click on the column header, and http param "sortcolid" will change ("sort column id") in the url (to, say, 2 for battery type), and you can copy paste it into your sig.

Ah OK, you have to have a Google docs account to use 'autofilter and sort'... had to create one ... then the 'list view' function worked. A pity that you can't use it without one. That is totally not intuitive, that I have to log in to sort someone else's documents.That should be in cell A1 of your table Don. Thanks for all the work BTW.

Good idea!

Done.

Hehe, thanks. That chat option in the right upper corner is also funky. ;-)

Don, you have 2 PM.

Might be better to just give the ListView url by default. It's quite a bit cleaner and more useful anyway.

Filtering by battery type is pretty cool, but perhaps a bit of work to make that all consistent. I wonder if there are "category" types that can be useful to filter on, like "mode", so for each light, the mode it's in is a seperate column.

For that link to work you must be logged in... so users with no google account can't see it... bad idea in my opinion.

That's weird. Apparently this is a "known" issue: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Docs/thread?tid=6a70db1cb1eab4e8&hl=en&start=80

I wonder if "publishing" the doc makes any difference. Seems like an oversight to me. No big deal either way.

And everyone should have a google account anyway, because google loves you.

You did a good job. a good sharing

Thanks Don for all your work…I appreciate it.

I took what was on the Google spreadsheet, added some formatting codes and produced a sortable Wiki table on the flashlight wiki here:

http://flashlight-wiki.com/Budget_light_output

I'll need to do periodic updates as Don gets new data, but it isn't really hard, just a find and replace for the tabs and new lines.

Very nice brted, thanks!

Suggestion: Could you just embed Don's spreadsheet into the wiki page, possibly using these instructions?

Cheers.

Their example spreadsheet is pretty tiny, but it doesn't look like it is set up to let you sort the information by the headings like the sortable wiki table is. I like having the ability to sort the table, but in order to make the table fit the page I had to leave out a lot of infomation in the spreadsheet (like the product links). If you want all of the information it is best to go to the source. I can add some explanation about that.

Don, I have a proposition for a new column in your spreadsheets. I found some interesting numbers trying to calculate overall efficiency for a light.

In all simplicity you just divide the calculated Lumen value with the current draw and the voltage of the strained battery (I used a typical voltage value).

My numbers fall between 16 and 64 Lumen pr. Watt and give a new comparison viewpoint.

Makes sense!

Lumens/watt sounds useful.