Thorfire S70 clone ?

XHP-50’s have the same footprint and fit on the same mcpcb as XM-L2’s. With a battery tube carrying 4 cells, a little bit of wizardly converting 4P to 2S2P is all it takes. :slight_smile: Well, and a driver change.

On the other hand, fill that bad boy with XP-L HI’s and let her rip… I like how the 9 emitter light looks like the old sunflower design from Robo car wash, from the late 60’s early 70’s. lol

Ah ha, I though the LEDs would be to big to fit the reflector but my only XHP50 light is send off as part of a trade so not too much experience :wink:

I had a 7 ledded srk clone on order but when I asked where it was I got a refund :frowning: and no answer.
Indeed it looks really nice so many emitters in a flower like pattern.

In the “buy it now” listings the Boruit S70 & VastFire S70 are $55-$60 which is about the same price as a Thorfire S70 ?
The pictures & specs of the Boruit & VastFire S70 are identical to the Thorfire S70 even showing an illuminated mode switch & listing turbo with 3 minute step down, & in the pictures the XHP70 looks to be a genuine emitter.
Does anybody know if Lattice Bright have cloned the XHP70 yet ?
I know that they have an XHP50 clone but I have not heard of an XHP70 clone nor do they list one yet on their website.
At the end of the day I didn”t expect this VastFire S70 to be the same as my genuine S70 & bought it as a clone but if it is I will be very happy at the price & if not it should make a good host.

An and on that soda can subject

( :heart_eyes: Dale is gonna make sweet soda can lights… Q8 has pushed him over the edge :smiley: )

Ordered a anrganté:http://m.ebay.fr/itm/1X-LED-Lampe-Torch-XML-2-T6-7X-6500Lm-camping-lumiere-lamp-Flashlight-UK-/351475947253 srk clone with 7 LEDs
No idea what that color is but OK
Probably genuine LB but OK
As long ad I can measure and compare these 7 led reflector and see this design that is different from all my 3 and 4 ledded srk clones I am happy (and well I really need to be able to test the future Q8 and this reflector so I need this one right…right?

And on a side note i do not like seeing Thorfire models for grabs.
Sigh I do not like the Thorfire S70 being so similar to the Jaxman Hunter.
Man this is bad idk what to do (besides spewing this in a topic where I know Dale and Bella Headlight (two BLfers I like and know have a decent moral compass) are watching.
Shall i start with asking if Paul (Jaxman knows if the TF S70 is a clone?
Shall I email Barry (TF) what this Vastfire stuff is doing on EBay?

The Miller I have seen Boruit & Thorfire products (headlamps) before that look identical & have identical specs & had always assumed that the Thorfire products had been cloned ?
Now with this “S70” you have Boruit & also “VastFire”, & that Jax Hunter looks & sounds spec wise exactly like a Thorfire light ?
I wouldn”t have put Jaxman down as a company that clones other peoples lights but then neither would I have though that Thorfire would ?
I would like to think that the Thorfire products are genuine & have been cloned as I like my Thorfire lights but who really knows what goes on in China ?
Or are all 4 companies, Thorfire, Boruit, VastFire & Jax buying from the same supplier ?

Well I won an auction on eBay for a s70 clone, comes with charger and batteries. Only paid $32.56. It’d will be interesting to see the quility or lack there of.

Nice score Lund!..

Yeah BH you nailed it… Sigh
I fear some emails to Paul and Barry are due.
:frowning:

Old-Lumens discussed it quite a while back, there’s only a few sources for lights in China and the base lights get passed around and re-branded all the time. It’s how they do business. The factory can make 10,000 a month (or something like that) so they make em, spread em around to get em sold. Sometimes the finish is different, some small specs are different, but in the end, there’s just not that many flashlight manufacturers out there.

<—-built an SupFire M6 triple to ~5000 lumens back when they first came out. Have a FandyFire Rook with a hand polished mirror reflector from a couple of years ago. Have built several “soup can” lights for friends, which is how I learned to dislike them, poor quality, thin screw in emitter shelf, insufficient room for additional heat sinking of any real consequence for hot rodding. SupFire makes one of the best, which is why I still have mine (with an added tail clicky for lockout)

Does anyone know/have seen if Lattice Bright are producing an XHP70 clone emitter yet ?

Thanks The Miller, their were a few people bidding hope nobody from the forum, I’d feel bad. I will tear it apart and post pics see if I can add a resister, I would also like to add the l6 driver someday.

The jax is a little different it uses a XHP50 and is more expensive and the overall design is a tad different i think.

Well the ones bow available all have max bid of £14,14 from me.
I’ll check an hour or so before closing how they go :wink:
First check at 18h to see how high it is then (was outbidded but wait with more bidding till later :wink: )
If anyone wants to start bidding maybe tell is so we can avoid bidding against each other :slight_smile:

at this price the light can use as host for mod.

cheap price but unsure of the made quality.

I have a bid on this one :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5000lm-XHP70-LED-Tactical-Flashlight-Memory-Hunting-Torch-18650-26650-6Modes/172288206903?\_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&\_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37449%26meid%3Dbb84b987ccbc43679a21467e270dee1f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D172284993584&autorefresh=true

It’s at £14,64 at the moment

Edit :

Won the auction at £20 ($26,4), now the waiting begins.

There weren’t many options in the US ebay but this morning I saw this one with 5 hours to end and I bid $35 max, because I’m this impulsive when it comes to flashlights.

At the time it was $17 and I really didn’t think it could go this high so I somewhat regret having to pay the winning bid which ended up being:…

Honestly I want to cancel the transaction because it doesn’t say CREE anywhere and I’ll most likely have to open a paypal dispute afterwards. I’m afraid $31.56 for a host is a bit too much, considering the 26650/charger are crap and it comes with a fake XHP70, although it would be interesting to see it in action.

What do you guys think I should do? BTW I just contacted the seller and straight asked him if it was real CREE or fake XHP70, not paying until I get a response.

I know the feeling a host C8 cost me $20 Australian dollars.

No one yet knows what emitter it has so its hard to say what to do. It could be a real XHP70 and the seller is just trying to get his rating higher.

Has anyone noticed that this seller’s feedback has been built up on low cost items, most under $10?
Also the sign up date is almost exactly one year ago, this is what they do when they plan the long con. Sometimes they just sell their account to the scammer.
All I do know is I have wasted my time and energy by getting sucked into this racket too many times and will not do it anymore.
Time will tell and it would be great if some of you do indeed get your goods.
Good luck to all.

As no one has answered the question do I take it that no one has seen a fake/clone XHP 70 emitter before nor know if they are about ?
I am not expecting this light to have a real Cree XHP 70 but I cannot remember reading that anyone has seen one yet.
Lattice Bright list XHP 50”s on their site but not XHP 70”s so I am just wondering if this might be a new fake emitter from them ?
At $19 dollars though it should make a good host & I can put a real emitter in (assuming the one it has is fake) & a different driver, maybe the L6 driver which is available.

Yes Muto that is a bit fishy
Well I ordered one directly from him £20 (€25$28)
I have two LEDs in need of a nice light, want to see this clone thing and maybe even a fake XHP70 :wink:
In case nothing comes it is done with PayPal.

Looking at some of the other ebay stores selling the same light one has been on ebay for over 9 years & has sold over 68,000 items http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tactical-S70-5000LM-XHP70-LED-Flashlight-Hunting-Torch-6-Modes-Light-18650-26650-/172271013487?hash=item281c270e6f:g:UxQAAOSwZ1BXfhEv
At the end of the day if seller 3-90802 is a scammer & the lights do not turn up then paypal will refund us.