ITS HERE! SIPIK SK98 - A 18650 based Sipik SK68 with an XML!

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The little one (SK68) with a 14500 battery appears to throw further as it has a smaller/brighter hotspot. The SK98 with its larger led die & small lens projects the led into a larger hotspot that does not look as bright but does put out more usable light.

I do really like both these lights especially for the money.

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clagged wrote:

 

The little one (SK68) with a 14500 battery appears to throw further as it has a smaller/brighter hotspot. The SK98 with its larger led die & small lens projects the led into a larger hotspot that does not look as bright but does put out more usable light.

 

I do really like both these lights especially for the money.

 

 

thanks, agreed both great lights at great price Smile

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I must be odd like weiser, I like the design and looks of these Sipik models, they just look cool IMO. I may pick this one up, will see how others like it first though.

You're not alone. I dig the looks as well except for the SK58.
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not a better throw? Sad

 

 
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Received mine today.

With a Panasonic NCR18650 I got +3.5A on High. Undecided

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how does it compare to the 14500 sipik if you have one? could you take some beamshots?

 

 
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For 14usd it isn't a bad choice overall.

The bad:

The focus isn't perfect. The focal point (in my sample) isn't reached if you don't unscrew a bit the first section of the head (putting the lens farther).

The lens don't work very good with XM-L angle (I supposed it before purchasing). On full throw you can see light around the proyection.

The pill is very bad dessigned. No aluminium under the star. The 20mm star is just holded by a plastic disc, and only contacts the pill on the edges.

With +3.5A at the tailcap, I don't think this is very safe for the led. Surprisingly, the flashlight gets hot pretty fast.

Threads on tailcap were gritty. Now cleaned & lubbed, feeling better.

 

The good

Flood area is like bigger, and brighter.

Can take long cells (protected panasonic NCR18650A)

Tailcap is   looks serviceable.

 

More in the review...

P.S: Sorry for the typos and poor english Embarassed

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So are there better 18650 XM-L options. give or take a few dollars? I'm disappointed to hear the focus isn't too good. I was hopeful this would be a decent XM-L zoomie. I'm not as interested in flood. Yes, I understand XM-L isn't ideal for throw, however, it still provides much more output for a potentially over all better package. 

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call me crazy, but I've come to prefer these pills w/ a hole in the center Surprised

I have 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" copper rod here and I drive that into the hole.

The laborious part is facing the rod.  I need a lathe...

This also makes is possible to solder the emitter directly to the copper - which is a bit easier w/ a zoomie (instead of reflector) because it isn't as crucial that the emitter be perfectly centered.

The nice part about this light vs the 'new c55/c56' (aside from the switch) is that the pcb 'holder' and the threads are one piece, so at least there is a good heat path to the body...

Looks like this will be my next purchase, after a visit from the credit fairy Tongue Out

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UPz wrote:

Tailcap is serviceable.

 

Scratch that for the moment. Looks serviceable. Tried to dissasemble the switch but there's a plastic piece under the alu threaded ring that I can't take off.

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So how does it stack up to the other 18650 zoomies? 

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I have a Yezl T9 Big Head (18650) http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1107 , the Yezl is larger, has a bigger lens and projects a smaller/brighter hot spot and feels more solid (as well as being bigger/heavier) it also sells at around $27.00 plus shipping compared to $14 inc. I changed the driver in it to get rid of the strobesand get a little more output.

Most of the time I grab for a C8 or a XML P60 but this light will get some use as it is a little smaller and has a novelty factor to it. 

 

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Can you compare also wide beams, which is brighter and bigger diameter?

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ledoman wrote:

Can you compare also wide beams, which is brighter and bigger diameter?

SK98 full flood vs SK68 full flood

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Thanks UPz. That's quite a difference, although the SK68's bezel and lens can be easily removed so that it can be used in mule mode to flood a room. Can this also be done with the SK98?

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I just got mine today.

HEY, this thing is SMALL for an 18650 light. With the lense set to "flood", it is exactly the length of an S-Mini, almost 3/4 of an inch shorter than a P1, which I consider a small 18650 light.

The headpiece has plenty of friction to keep it from getting loosy-goosey, and my light focuses fine on max throw. My only complaint is that is has a strobe mode instead of a Medium mode.

The light always starts on High, which is good since I might not have to cycle past Strobe.

Tailstands VERY nicely, good machine work, clip is functional, lots of cooling fins,  and it looks to be a real Sipik.

Still daylight out, so I can't say much about the beam, but for $14 it is a nice light. It is my only zoomie at this point.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Hey Troop, please give us a report on the outdoor experiments ASAP!  :bigsmile:

 

I'll order one this weekend if I can get your endorsement. I know it's pretty inexpensive and I shouldn't bother so much but I suppose it's more principle since these flood-to-zoom lights are sort of a hit or miss and generally lower quality. I'm just making this hard on myself  Silly

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I'll try to do some beamshots tonight, but there is a really bright moon, not sure if they will be effective.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Here are some beamshots from about 100 feet to the tree.

Flood

 

Focused

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Awesome. Now to dig up some of your other beam shots in that location to compare Smile

 

My initial observation is that the throw doesn't seem to be focused that tight. 

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: Do you have a popular budget thrower you could compare it to? Maybe something like the HD2010?

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Awesome. Now to dig up some of your other beam shots in that location to compare Smile

 

My initial observation is that the throw doesn't seem to be focused that tight. 

 

Thanks!

The throw is not too tight, but it is still nice! I don't think you can tighten the big XM-L down like you can an XP-G or XR-E

Here is a link to the comparison, see post #61

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Thanks for the quick update. So maybe the XR-E is still better for throw in the SK98? I wasn't sure if the XM-L could possibly match it based purely off of the significantly increased power. 

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I think it gets the job done just fine. No real need for a pencil-thin beam, at least for me.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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So how do you figure it fits in to your collection as a practical EDU (Every Day Use) type of light? Is it worth keeping at the top of your rotation? I suppose it's very similar to the SK68 but with more power. 

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Thank you for those beamshot. It looks like it floods in a very wide angle. That is just what I need from a work light.

Biiig flood for the up close are work. And a strong clip so I can clip it on to my ear protection. And cheap. And 18650 battery runtime. And a really low low - oh well. After driver swap it is still only 20 $ Wink

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My thoughts on zoomies in general and this Sipik98 specifically;

It is a fun light, but I don't take it seriously. If I needed an EDC, this would not be it. If I was a LEO, this would not be my daily light. Fun to play with, but the lack of a real reflector makes it a weak light in my eyes.

But it is a cool toy for 14 bucks, and I'm sure it will get a lot of attention from non-flashaholics. Way better light than the multiple LED stuff people buy at checkstands or Hardware stores, but not on par with a P1 or C8 or such. I'm just not a fan of aspherics.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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troop how does the throw compares to the sk68?

 

 
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I EDC'd (jacket) my 'new c55' modded to xml at 2.8A until the switch got flaky.

Now I carry a AA xm-l light w/ blacked out reflector and ashpheric (about half focused) in place of flat lens.

I like no hot spot...

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I have yet to buy an SK68, so I would not be able to tell you...

 

LOL, funny, I just remembered that I bought 3 Citi clones of the 68, they are still in a drawer in their unopened boxes. I will check them out tonight. I think they are XM-L though, but I could be wrong.

 

Nope, not XM-L, the emitter-image "box" only has 2 internal lines in it.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Mine, after less than 10 minutes, the wire desoldered from the star board.

The pastic retaining ring (the only thing that retain the led in place) melted, and now the the star isn't contacting the "pill".

3.5/3.7Amps with that poor thermal path...

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