New (Fake) Solarforce XM-L on KD

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New (Fake) Solarforce XM-L on KD

What do you guys think about this one?

http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=11150

It looks like a smoking deal if it's really a Solarforce and it's really an XM-L. But only 1-mode. Hopefully this is the beginning of more Solarforce lights with XM-L emitters.

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Somebody posted that in this thread:

http://budgetlightforum.cz.cc/node/1034

There's no way the host or drop-in is Solarforce. It took Solarforce forever to adopt XP-G LED's so I doubt they will have XM-L's for a while. Looks like the host tailstands (L2's don't) and it is too light in color to be gunmetal gray, so my guess is it is a silver 504B/Uniquefire L2 with a Solarforce logo. KD should know better.

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Definitely a fake Solarforce. I have it and bought the host from Lightake. It's actually not bad. I have my XML drop-in inside this host and it does a good job. I prefer this host over the real Solarforce because of the smooth bezel, which doesn't obstruct the spill as much as the real one, and also it tailstands.

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Clone L2 + Generic XM-L drop in sold by KD , for the price , = Worth Buying ... 

Since I already have a XM-L drop in ordered , If I had not , I would drop the change on this one in a second ! 

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If KD would just add more and better photos plus more information they would most likely sell more items.  That is one of the things KD does that just bugs the hell out of me.Yell

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fishinfool wrote:

If KD would just add more and better photos plus more information they would most likely sell more items.  That is one of the things KD does that just bugs the hell out of me.Yell

That would just be smart ...what are the odds of that happening ?? 100%....>>>Not ever .hell will freeze over first

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That's irritating that it's fake. I updated the title. At any rate, a tailstandable light is preferable to one that isn't, so maybe this clone has its virtues.

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And here's the 5-mode version...

http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=11155

Looks tempting actually.

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sb56637 wrote:

And here's the 5-mode version...

http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=11155

Looks tempting actually.

Aww man...if KD had come out with this sooner, I would have saved about $10 by not buying the drop-in and host separately Yell

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My L2 with a Warm MC-E from KD ought to arrive today. Maybe I can comment the quality of the body then. Unfortunately my real Solarforce L2P to compare is still on the way.

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LighTake have sold these fakes for ages!! Not XM-l´s of cource. At the moment they have 46 fakes

showing at their site together with 5 genuine Solarforces. 

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Nautic wrote:

LighTake have sold these fakes for ages!! Not XM-l´s of cource. At the moment they have 46 fakes

showing at their site together with 5 genuine Solarforces. 

I bought a black solarforce fake from LT in the past and it was really well made (apart from a hard dent on the bezel/head which eventually got replaced by LT).

Still have it and like.

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I dont like nor the original solarforce nor the fake ones

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Budgeteer wrote:

Nautic wrote:

LighTake have sold these fakes for ages!! Not XM-l´s of cource. At the moment they have 46 fakes

showing at their site together with 5 genuine Solarforces. 

I bought a black solarforce fake from LT in the past and it was really well made (apart from a hard dent on the bezel/head which eventually got replaced by LT).

Still have it and like.

 

Usely the fakes are OK. I have one. But seen side by side with a genuine Solarforce

the quality of the latter is very clear. The only thing bad are the strikebezel. Could

do without. On the other hand this and the non abillity to tailstand is the proof its

a real one and not a fake, as Solarforce is normaly not sold without these two "qualities".

 

I only know of one exception: The L2i can tailstand. But with its large head and narrow

body it has no meaning anyway. The slightest whisp of air will topple it.

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I only know of one exception: The L2i can tailstand. But with its large head and narrow

body it has no meaning anyway. The slightest whisp of air will topple it.

You mean the L2r 2xAA, not the L2i 3xAAA which is quite fat (and tailstands).

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brted wrote:

Nautic wrote:

I only know of one exception: The L2i can tailstand. But with its large head and narrow

body it has no meaning anyway. The slightest whisp of air will topple it.

You mean the L2r 2xAA, not the L2i 3xAAA which is quite fat (and tailstands).

 

Sorry, my mistake. You are right, its the L2r.

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My L2 with Warm MC-E from KD arrived today. As far as I could examine, it is a good peace of machine work. No flaws, good threads, shiny exterior, perfectly tail standing switch. It is definitely a good body.

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brted wrote:

Nautic wrote:

I only know of one exception: The L2i can tailstand. But with its large head and narrow

body it has no meaning anyway. The slightest whisp of air will topple it.

I thought they now have tails that tailstand stand ... or are you talking about them that come included ?

http://www.solarforce-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FA&s=18&id=125

http://www.solarforce-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FA&s=18&id=62

http://www.solarforce-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FA&s=18&id=64

I'm so confused why they make bezels  that a huge percentage of people don't want ..?

 

You mean the L2r 2xAA, not the L2i 3xAAA which is quite fat (and tailstands).

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As far I as know all Solarforce are sold with a strikebezel and a non tailstanding switch.

They sell flat bezels and tailstanding tailcaps. Why they do not provide the latter from

the start may be due to they expect more sales that way.

Their lights are high quality though

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I don't know what the deal is with the strikebezels, but the lack of tailstanding I think is based on the SureFire 6P that they were copying. And some people like that because if they have gloves on they can still easily use the switch. Also the SureFire has a lockout feature so the protruding button doesn't accidentally turn the light on (not exactly sure how all of that works since I don't have one).

I'm not even that crazy about the flat bezels because they don't stick out enough to actually protect the head. To me the idea should be that if you drop it and ding the bezel, you just get a new bezel, or the stainless steel won't be as likely to ding as the aluminum head. But the flat bezel doesn't offer any protection to the head. Still, given the price of the L2P stainless bezel, I got flat ones. In retrospect, I should have probably ordered a L2P. I'm sure I'll get one someday.

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brted wrote:

 Also the SureFire has a lockout feature so the protruding button doesn't accidentally turn the light on (not exactly sure how all of that works since I don't have one).

 

I works by unscrewing the tailcap. All the way in: turns the light on. Unscrewing a little: Turns on

when you press the button. Further unsrewing: Light off. 

The feature with the button is very nice if you want to use your light intermittent

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