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… I was much to hard on the FH11…. it is a great knife. I do think the GoComma is a bit better… but it is certainly not the runaway I first stated in my post above. Heck… if you get right down to it it is only my opinion.
And we both know how “opinions” go. Big Smile

I don’t really plan on doing any reprofiling on either GoComma blade. The smaller knife is hollow ground & it is fine as is for me. The FH11 looking knife is flat ground with a nice distal taper, a good edge, & sharp as a razor.

When I do finally dull one to where it needs resharpening I’ll report back. Thumbs Up

As I said previously, the Gocomma knife in question looks great and seems to be using real materials in the handle. Given that, and the fact that you can get it shipped free for under $10, they have to be cutting a corner somewhere. As I suspected, it is likely in the steel.

I did some asking around. Not much is known about this company and I actually had some people upset with me for bringing it up on the premium knife forum. From what I can gather, Gocomma is a rebrander and doesn’t actually make the knives. Some of their stuff in that price range seems to be made from 3Cr13Mov but I couldn’t get solid confirmation. If that is correct, 3Cr13Mov is less good than budget standards like AUS-8 or 8Cr13Mov. It is easy to sharpen to a good edge but it won’t hold that edge anywhere near as well. An easy comparison is the Kershaw Hotwire, which uses 3Cr13Mov and sells for around $10. Kerhsaw does a good job with heat treatment but the blade is softer than their $20-30 knives in 8Cr13Mov. The FH11 is one of the least expensive knives available in real D2 and tends to be over $25.

That said, advertising a knife as D2 gets people excited. Advertising as 3Cr13Mov does not. Often, companies using a steel like 3Cr13Mov just call it “stainless steel”. That’s fine. Calling it D2 is downright deceptive. Gocomma is not the only company to do this sort of thing. It’s wrong when anyone does it.

I completely understand what you are saying. BUT, as I have already stated; the GoComma is holding the edge & holding it very well.
It has in fact already exceeded any 3Cr13Mov or AUS-8 blades I have had experience with and is still hair popping sharp.

I totally agree that false advertising is deceptive as well as downright dishonest…. no matter who does it.

I am certainly not a knife ‘expert’… but I am far from a gullible newbie. After using & testing a blade for a while I can tell by it’s edge holding ability if it is a crap steel blade or if the blade is one of a decent steel.

The two GoComma blades I am referring to are not crap steel.
They are advertised as D2. At this point I cannot say if that is true or not. But I can say they are holding their edge. They are holding their edge so well that I am not dissapointed whatever the steel may be.

I don’t know yet, at this point; if that will hold up batch to batch either. But I just had a few more delivered that were bought 2 months after the first one, so I will be finding out.

I am working on getting the blade steel identified. If that pans out I’ll sure post the results.

Sorry you got scolded on a “premium knife forum”. Sad . Was it BF?

Talk later….. Thumbs Up

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I totally agree that false advertising is deceptive as well as downright dishonest…. no matter who does it.

I am certainly not a knife ‘expert’… but I am far from a gullible newbie. After using & testing a blade for a while I can tell by it’s edge holding ability if it is a crap steel blade or if the blade is one of a decent steel.

The two GoComma blades I am referring to are not crap steel.
They are advertised as D2. At this point I cannot say if that is true or not. But I can say they are holding their edge. They are holding their edge so well that I am not dissapointed whatever the steel may be.

I don’t know yet, at this point; if that will hold up batch to batch either. But I just had a few more delivered that were bought 2 months after the first one, so I will be finding out.

I am working on getting the blade steel identified. If that pans out I’ll sure post the results.

Sorry you got scolded on a “premium knife forum”. Sad . Was it BF?

Talk later….. Thumbs Up

Of course it was Blade Forums. How did you guess? Wink There is a lot to like about BF but there are issues.

Like I said, 3Cr13Mov wasn’t a solid confirmation. That’s just a steel the company has used often and it was the prime suspect in a number of conversations I had about it. (This post gave me homework because I really liked the looks of one of those Gocommas.) At that price, it could be one of the other XCrYMov steels or something in the 440 series. The upper limit here is probably 8Cr13Mov or 440C but that might be a stretch. To give you an idea, Kershaw does well with 8Cr13Mov and Ganzo uses 440C in some of its knives. Of course, other factors that matter here are heat treatment and blade geometry. The latter looks good based on the pictures so that’s something.

Now here is the fun part. We know the Ganzo FH11 is real D2 and should have a hardness safely over 60. If you don’t mind damaging a knife, here are two fun ways to test the Gocomma:

1. You could do a scratch test, Gocomma versus Ganzo and Ganzo versus Gocomma. I’m willing to bet the Gocomma is softer.

2. You could do a corrosion test. D2 holds a great edge but doesn’t have the best corrosion resistance. Some of the possible imposters will outlast D2.

Barring that, I’d say accept that it is some other kind of steel and just have fun with it.

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Of course it was Blade Forums. How did you guess? Wink There is a lot to like about BF but there are issues.

Like I said, 3Cr13Mov wasn’t a solid confirmation. That’s just a steel the company has used often and it was the prime suspect in a number of conversations I had about it. (This post gave me homework because I really liked the looks of one of those Gocommas.)

If you don’t mind damaging a knife, here are two fun ways to test the Gocomma:

1. You could do a scratch test, Gocomma versus Ganzo and Ganzo versus Gocomma. I’m willing to bet the Gocomma is softer.

2. You could do a corrosion test. D2 holds a great edge but doesn’t have the best corrosion resistance. Some of the possible imposters will outlast D2.

Barring that, I’d say accept that it is some other kind of steel and just have fun with it.

Big Smile …. Just a ‘lucky guess’ on my part about it being BF. Wink
I haven’t been active there for a while… I was spending to much $$$ & had to take a break. Facepalm I have been anonymously lurking some though. Wink I figured if I don’t sign in I can’t buy.
It is a great place, but don’t go there & post anything controversial unless you can take the heat…. because it most likely will get very hot. Big Smile . Smile

What’s your ‘handle’ over there? I looked for the thread you were chastised on but could not find it.

EDIT: Nevermind Cosmodragoon, I found your thread on BF. Those guys don’t have any more idea what steel is used in these 2 GoCommas than you or I do at this point. Just a bunch of opinions & guesses. Big Smile

And when you asked about them on BF you left out the very important facts I mentioned about their edge holding ability to this point.
I spelled it out for them though. We’ll get to the bottom of it sooner or later.
Edit over.

My handle on BF is same as here.

As far as whether it is really D2 or not…. I am gonna get to the bottom of it sooner or later, even if I have to do a heads up test; FH11 vs GoComma. If I do that I am gonna take it to my buddies shop who is a maker & let him be the judge. That way there is no bias from me…. Wink

An like I said:

  • “The two GoComma blades I am referring to are not crap steel.
    They are advertised as D2. At this point I cannot say if that is true or not. But I can say they are holding their edge. They are holding their edge so well that I am not dissapointed whatever the steel may be.”

So, however it turns out; for the price paid… I am more than happy.

I’ll do those two things/tests you mentioned also above & see what happens.

I don’t know anything about them, but I have heard that some big scrap metal yards have some sort of hand held scope that somehow tells the composition of metal. I thought about checking around & seeing if I can find one that does and seeing if I can get them to check it…. if in fact they do work.

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I also received my GoComma flipper! Smile
The pocket clip might need some bending for jeans other than that it’s a pretty good flipper! Thanks teacher for recommending it! Thumbs Up

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isti242 wrote:
I also received my GoComma flipper! Smile
The pocket clip might need some bending for jeans other than that it’s a pretty good flipper! Thanks teacher for recommending it! Thumbs Up

My pleasure isti242, glad yours arrived & you like it.
Yep, as I reported; the clip needs TLC & a bit of tweeking. Wink

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I was at Academy Sports today picking up a new revolver for the wife. Walking towards the front door I saw a bargain bin full of pocket knives. Most not my style or some brand I never heard of. One caught my attention though. This little Gerber. A Kettlebell they call it. Didn’t remember seeing it in my pocket knife searching on the web. Figured I’d pick it up for $4.99. I’ll take it apart tonight and get it all cleaned and lubricated. Kind of reminds me of the CRKT Pilar.

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toddcshoe wrote:
I was at Academy Sports today picking up a new revolver for the wife. Walking towards the front door I saw a bargain bin full of pocket knives. Most not my style or some brand I never heard of. One caught my attention though. This little Gerber. A Kettlebell they call it. Didn’t remember seeing it in my pocket knife searching on the web. Figured I’d pick it up for $4.99. I’ll take it apart tonight and get it all cleaned and lubricated. Kind of reminds me of the CRKT Pilar.


That’s a neat looking little knife. Gonna check & see if there is a “bargain bin” at the Academy here.
Thanks for sharing…. Thumbs Up

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That’s a neat looking little knife. Gonna check & see if there is a “bargain bin” at the Academy here. Thanks for sharing…. Thumbs Up

No problem. Hope you find one. I normally don’t browse through Academy. The things I normally buy are kind of expensive there unless I can catch a sale. I almost walked right past it without looking. It was the only Gerber in there. I dug around trying to find another few but that was the only one I could find. Figured someone already picked through it and overlooked that one.

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A basic test for steels. With a Smithy.
Is/was the “spark test”
Different blends of steel have different type/shape/colour of sparks.
I did a little out of interest around 55/60 yrs ago with my Blacksmith mate.
made my horse shoes for me. from bar steel.

There used to be a graph on it. I had one.
I don’t know that it would be specific for these modern steels/alloys though.
But maybe somebody could check.
I’m goin’ to bed. 11.50 pm.

PS.

Really… When it comes down to it in these “cheap” knives.
As long as YOU. are happy with it’s looks, feel, and it cuts good enuff for you.
What the F—-.
Does the rest reallyyyyy Matter?.

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! !

Got this guy today. Haven’t tested yet but feel better in hand than I thought.
4mm thick, 538g without holster.

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desmondkun wrote:
Got this guy today. Haven’t tested yet but feel better in hand than I thought. 4mm thick, 538g without holster.

Nice! Thumbs Up
What’s about the sheath? Do you like that too?

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! !

Got this guy today. Haven’t tested yet but feel better in hand than I thought.
4mm thick, 538g without holster.

Is that a ganzo parang? I didn’t know they made those. Do they make Khukri’s?

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I guess that’s their version of a kukri. I bet it chops.

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Relampago wrote:

Is that a ganzo parang? I didn’t know they made those. Do they make Khukri’s?


It’s Ganzo kukri. They has it in their official site but can’t find where to buy so easily, just like ganzo axe that I saw them but miss my chance to buy.

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Nice! Thumbs Up
What’s about the sheath? Do you like that too?

Yeah, I quit like it. Considered it’s budget price.
Sheath is fine. Nylon sheath with mian strap, leg strap and small pouch with diamond sharpener(I don’t think I’ll use it for this kukri) and ferro rod. The nylon strap is quite thin for my liking but should be usable.
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That’s one unique looking blade, Boaz!

Thanks for pointing me to this thread.

Here are a couple of my recent arrivals.

Ganzo FH21:

Mora Companion:

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Got a green CJRB Briar today. It gets less attention than the other CJRB knives but for me it is by far the best looking one of the series sofar.

It is bigger than I thought and that makes it a bit too intimidating to carry around as an EDC knife, and even when camping I would hesitate to use it when there is other people around. Still I love the size it has, it feels good in the hand and gives the impression that it can handle tough jobs.



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I finished my own knife today. Not too shabby for my first puukko.


I bought the steel, so technically you can’t sue me over posting here Big Smile

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Nice job Robin!

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Thanks Djozz! Btw I do like the slim profile of the CJRB Briar you bought, it just screams sharp

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Tops Fieldcraft 154CM and it’s gorgeous, it’s what I’d call my first proper blade.

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Looks nice!

I got my first proper blade in 2008.

Before then, I bought very small junk knives on eBay for just a few dollars a piece.

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I got my first proper blade in 2008.

What was your ‘first’ Raccoon?

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What was your 'first' Raccoon?

A Kershaw Mini Cyclone 1635.

It has been discontinued for a while now so they're tough to find anymore.

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Sanrenmu/Land 913 stonewash /w blue accents

This is my first ever knife with ball bearings, loved it out of the box. very smooth, did an initial cleaning and it is even better now.
I highly recommend owning this knife, it comes razor sharp, nothing to improve atm. The weight is far better than expected.

(The opinel was just for opening the package)

If anyone is interested, the knife can be purchased on Aliexpress here:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ao8Rkc


I think only the metal scales have a frame lock, so please PM the seller or ask other users here before purchasing.

Different color https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_ApP6IG

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I like the design and the size (a bit on the big side though) but I didn’t like the weight.

30g less is feeling like a different knife to me




The steel front scale is for reference only, I shouldn’t have put it on the picture.

Done another one, too (and gifted it away), I’m wondering why SRM isn’t doing sprint runs like this:



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Sanrenmu/Land 913 stonewash /w blue accents

This is my first ever knife with ball bearings, loved it out of the box. very smooth, did an initial cleaning and it is even better now.
I highly recommend owning this knife, it comes razor sharp, nothing to improve atm. The weight is far better than expected…

While I don’t love that the design is copied without permission, these are excellent knives at an exceptional value. I have one in G-10 with 12C27. I’ve subjected it to hard use. Sparing any praise that belongs with the original design, fit and finish is on par with knives that cost more than twice as much. The action is very good. Edge retention suggests a decent heat treatment. This knife can easily cut circles around similarly priced knives in 8Cr13Mov.

While this model is reliable and fairly durable, I did end up damaging mine. The clip uses a single screw to attach into a recessed portion of the G-10. I caught it on something hard and bent the clip sideways. It took a chip out of the sidewall of the recess. It still works and keeping the screw tight helps but it can get pushed in that direction with enough force.

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Sanrenmu 9201. Rather than build a collection I tried to just get one good knife if possible. Canadian Cutting Edge had this in a top knives of 2020 video.

Technically this isn’t my first knife purchase as I bundled a cheap stainless steel Xanes knife with a Banggood order several months ago.

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I was disappointed with a crappy machette that I bought some time ago…

so I got myself the real deal… Tramontina Thumbs Up

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Got my SOG today what a knife back in love with SOG after all these years looks like they are making good stuff again.

The micarta on the handle is the best I have ever seen or felt in any knife. It will darken with the oils from my skin.
The action is out of this world never had a knife so lose and smooth with no play in it. It is by far the best fidget knife I have ever owned.

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