Cant decide upon which cheap 18650 XML zoomie to buy

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Cant decide upon which cheap 18650 XML zoomie to buy

Im looking for some really cheap XML zoomie.

All over 13 and 4 is to expensive.

This one http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sltrfire-cree-xml-t6-1000lumen-... ,
but its in brown colour, it needs to be black. Im so mad this one is brown.

This one is nice, but, it seems little on the ugly side (I really need it primarily as a bike-light for someone)… http://www.everbuying.com/product150196.html?SSAID=465956
It can also take 3XAAA (it has AAA holder) wich is in fact a rather big pros for this purchase.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1600-Lm-CREE-Zoomable-Focus-18650-XM-L-T6-Led-Mini-Flashlight-Lamp-Light-Torch-/290747076914?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item43b1e05132
Tjhis one is nice, black colour, with (cheap?) clip and obviously cheap holster – not important.
But only because its black its 2 dollars higher price than brown versions, wich seems to me litle to much.

Any other suggestions?
Anybody has one of these lights?

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This one is nice design in fact http://www.focalprice.com/LF0126B/NF918_CREET6_200LM_3Mode_LED_Flashligh...
But i have some serious doubts about quality of internals…

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9057
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9612

Two pages on this light: http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/poppas-w878-xml-t6-1200lumen-5m...

It’s 16 not 13 but looks good. I have one coming myself and I like manafont as a reputable seller.

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I’d 2nd the POPPAS, it’s bright and runs on a 26650. It’s handy for cycling, but I don’t use it for this purpose any more as it doesn’t compare with my non flood to throw lights for whatever purpose. I would seriously recommend this for cycling, and it’s cheap at under $15:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6586

The HD2011 also comes in a Fandyfire version which I’ve heard is cheaper. It’s nicely built, for a floody cycling beam it can’t be beaten IMO. It’s bright and although it’s a small form factor, it puts out enough brightness to light up a decent amount of road ahead.

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I like the Tank737 best rom all zoomies I’ve got. Reviewed here at BLF

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Thanx for suggestions but I wont buy Poppas, I would never buy it its to ugly.

This http://www.everbuying.com/product150196.html?SSAID=465956
wont win a beauty contest neither but it looks somehow serious, and 3XAAA option is definitely a pros.
Although, its 13,5 cm long, like Ultrafire 501 flashlight.
Looks like shgortened version of trustfire Z1/Z5

It would be great if it had 5 modes like this one (specifically, mid-power mode).
SIpik on the other hand is 2 cms shorter (11,5cm), so maybe better, more compatct for a bike and for a pocket.

I believe all of these lights, or most of them, have great flood.
I just worry about internalks – im looking for the one that can stand high mode for a prolonged periods – at least on the bike. (with wind cooling it)

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>>>>> http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sltrfire-cree-xml-t6-1000lumen-...

I bought that one. The only real good thing about it is that it’s small. HORRIBLE PWM. I’m getting a new driver because it’s so bad. Horrible weird artifacts all around the beam. Had to jury rig the clicky to recess it so it would tailstand AND the pill has no holes to turn it for removal so it’s a pain to get out. But maybe it will be okay with a new driver and I’m going to paint black the area around the emitter to kill the artifacts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1600-Lm-CREE-Zoomable-Focus-18650-XM-L-T6-Led-Mini-Flashlight-Lamp-Light-Torch-/290747076914?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item43b1e05132

That one appears to be the same as the bronzey-gray colored one, so it probably has the same issues. I can see it has the same stupid tail cap bezel that makes for a wobbly tailstand even after I I recessed the button.

http://www.focalprice.com/LF0126B/NF918_CREET6_200LM_3Mode_LED_Flashligh...

Bad artifacts on that one. Light is really underpowered. Not very bright. No battery compartment spring. Tailstands okay. No PWM.

I suggest an Ultrafire clone of the venerable sk98. I LOVE these lights. Yes, the pill is less than optimal. Yes, the clone is SLIGHTLY (10%?) less brighter than the real sipik sk98, but it takes a long time to get warm on high and the sipik overheats almost immediately. And the ultrafire clone never gets as hot as the sipik. The ultrafire has really become my carry light. It’s small. It’s super bright — almost or as bright as any of my single 18650 T6 zoomers. And a match for my nonzooming t6s also.

I think someone overheated their sipik and it melted the wires or something, but that’s why I got the less-hot ultrafire.

The zoom works GREAT. We took a night boat cruise and were a mile offshore. This little thing was lighting the shore at about a mile. Not like a kleig light. but you could see it. Others on the boat were amazed and I actually drew a crowd.

Great battery life with a good battery. Spring inside the compartment so you can easily use nonprotected flat tops. And the design: Either love it or hate it. And did I say small? This thing is only like 4.5 inches long. Maybe too big for a shirt pocket, but pocketable or carryable with a very small unobtrusive holster. Did I say CHEAP? About as cheep as they come.

I have bought from these two ebay vendors (I have three of the lights) and both delivered fast, a nice light, great condition, nice annodizing and threads — in mine anyway.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110876053142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270974371898?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3...

Unlike many others, I really like zoomies despite their inherent downfalls, and I think the ultrafire is the best of the SMALL T6 zoomers. The Trustfire Z8 though is also a GREAT little zoomer but the 14500 batt doesn’t give it much battery life. And the UF is ++WAY++ brighter. In a perfect world, I’d get the z8 AND the Ultrafire and then see which one you like best.

Hope this helps!

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Yes it helps thank you.

Just tell me, zooming mechanism is liek on SIpik SK68, oulling head out?

Is it loose or? Because for a bike light it wont be good if it is loose.

Yeah and I would rather buy that, little less bright, but wich doesnt gets cooking when I run it on high.

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I got this recently, and I absolutely love it.

Ultrafire 1×18650 Zoom Torch/ Light Saber

Ultrafire-branded. Far out-performs my Sipik SK98. Robust and well-built, o-rings through-out. Huge flood, piercing throw with the emitter point the same size as the Sipik SK68. I wish someone would get one and do a detailed review on it, because I am not qualified as of yet, but I’ve seen some cool YouTube vids on it.

Used it for a prolonged period last night on a hike, mostly on medium, but for a few minutes at a time on high. The head and body got quite warm, suggesting decent heat-sinking.

Anyway…maybe a good choice.

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JaffoAZ wrote:
I got this recently, and I absolutely love it.

Ultrafire 1×18650 Zoom Torch/ Light Saber

Ultrafire-branded. Far out-performs my Sipik SK98. Robust and well-built, o-rings through-out. Huge flood, piercing throw with the emitter point the same size as the Sipik SK68. I wish someone would get one and do a detailed review on it, because I am not qualified as of yet, but I’ve seen some cool YouTube vids on it.

Used it for a prolonged period last night on a hike, mostly on medium, but for a few minutes at a time on high. The head and body got quite warm, suggesting decent heat-sinking.

Anyway…maybe a good choice.

Thanx, thats raelly good flashlight and really really good price (it deserves be in flashlight deals section!), but in fact I’m now searching for 1×18650 version

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Oh, but mine *is *a 1×18650 version. Smile I would suggest you just pick it up at this price. Worst case – you have a very nicely made and very bright zoomy to gift someone if it doesn’t fit your needs.

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Flashlight Features:
Material:6061T Durable Aluminum Reflector with smooth reflector face.
Max output : 1600 lumens (MAX)
Lifetime-above 10,000hrs
Operate Voltage: 4.2 V
Bulb:Super Bright CREE XM-L T6 LED
Save 40% power compare with Xenon and Luxeon Bulb.
adjustable focus range for different usage
Zoom: x1
x250
x500
x1000
x2000
3-mode adjustable Brightness,High /Low/Strobe
Super Bright, blinding Effect
“O” ring sealed, Waterproof, can be used in rainy weather (Don’t put it into the water).
The ON/OFF push button switch is provided in the end cap.
Water resistant.
Body Color: Black
Size(mm) :170mm(Length,can stretch to extent up to 189)×37mm(Head)x25mm(Body diameter)
Battery Type:1×18650 Battery (Not Included)
Suitable for Self Safety, hunting, cycling, climbing, camping and outdoor activity
Super Bright, blinding Effect .

Package Content:

1x Cree XM-L T6 Led Ultra bright Adjustable Focus Flashlight

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Hey that does look like a good deal. Can’t pass up a zoomer. Snagged one. Same guy who sells the ultrafire sk98 clones. Have had good luck with him on this light and other merch.

Man, I gotta control myself. My Paypal account empties itself as soon as I sell merch to get money in there.

Hope it doesn’t have that too-tight zoom head o-ring seal like the 2×18650 Trustfire Z5, which it closely resembles, a too-tight seal that makes zooming a test of physical prowess because the seals are so good, the air pressure can’t escape.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11609

But I did NOT notice the extra $1.99 tacked on for postage until I had already pulled the trigger. That unsweetens the deal a bit.

Be interesting how this one shapes up with my other 16-17 zoomers —- uh I mean now 18 zoomers Wink

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Oh, but mine *is *a 1×18650 version. Smile I would suggest you just pick it up at this price. Worst case – you have a very nicely made and very bright zoomy to gift someone if it doesn’t fit your needs.

Sorry, Im little tired and that light looked seriously similar to Trustfire Z1/Z5 I own. Ž

Uff, it seems like this s rather sizey(?) 1×18650 light. 17-19cm. SO its not much shorter than 2×18650 version (sold at DD for that same price, great flooder).
SO that would be a turnoff, I sure believe its a good light (only, but serious con, is that it is seriously oversized), but its to big for the thing Im looking for here.

PS: I almost cannot believe that it receives only one 18650 cell Shocked

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Oh yeah, it’s bigger than say, the SK98. Then again, the SK98 design suffers from maybe not enough mass to handle the energy produced, along with poor design. The size of this UF is substantial, but so is the performance, so I can deal with a little bit larger torch with a big flood and a piercing throw. Zoomies always seem a bit limited to me, ironically. Not this one.

Ubehebe, the zoom function on mine is tight enough, but not too tight. I have an SK68 that is as tight as you describe. This UF feels like it’s rolling on bearings – and yet isn’t the least bit loose. Can’t wait til you get yours and report back, because I have a feeling you’ll be pretty pleased with the value for the price – even with the extra $2. I would have easily paid $25 for this torch, still being surprised at how nice it was for that price. Smile

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I found that Ultrafire Sipik SK98 version http://www.everbuying.com/product169247.html?SSAID=465956
here for cheapest price (there is 6% retailmenot coupon, and if you take 2), for 13,90$

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Everbuying BTW has some nice prices, for example SIpik SK68 for 5,99 (without coupon).

Back to the topic, this one from everbuying also caught my eye http://www.everbuying.com/product150196.html?SSAID=465956

Its 13,5cm long, slightly longer than Sipik, again cell versatility (AAA/18650/26650?) , and its 30 grams heavioer than sipik (113-143 grams).Ultrafire 501b is 90 grams I think, so 143 grams is pretty heavy, no?
WIth cell thats almost 200 grams.

@Ubehebe
I practically dont know what is PWM and I never noticed it, so I dont know whats that and its not con for me Smile

Secondly, regarding this Ultrafire zoomie ylu are recommending me – how are modes spaced. IS low mode really low or 30-40-50% of high? (I would like that it isnt very low)

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Furthermore, I found that Smiling Shark in 5 modes version http://www.everbuying.com/product158096.html?SSAID=465956 , and its a mistery for me why its cheaper than 3-mode version
(same pricing is present on one other website too….)

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Some folks seem to be more sensitive to PWM than other. Personally, I have several lights that are reported to have pretty serious PWM on lower modes, and I don’t notice it until I look at the beam through my Android cam. :bigsmile:

The medium (low?) mode on the Ultrafire I listed, at least mine, seems to be about 50%. More than enough for a hike through a rocky desert wash at night – rattlesnakes are easily spotted in that enormous flood, and zooming a bit produces even more concentrated, brighter light. (I know my use of this light is probably quite different that the intended use by most folks.) Smile

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Ok, so that would be it, I will buy 1 Ultrafire and 1 small shark light from the link above Shocked

ALso (XML zoomie buying frenzy Shocked ) , I will buy that wider lens XML zoomie for mounting on rifle, and I still cant decide wich shiny 14500 zoomie I would buy. Big Smile (I forgot thier names, I think one is trustfire and other uniquefire or ultrafire).

SO, all in all, thanx guys, I decided Smile

And BTW check everbuying.com, they seem to have large selection of these ****fire lights at some nice prices.

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> Smiling Shark in 5 modes version http://www.everbuying.com/product158096.html?SSAID=465956

today that linked to “hi-low-strobe” so read carefully when following links, the targets may change

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I am really busy and don’t have time to research this, but it appears that everbuying.com is on the BLF avoid list for quite a few nasty incidents:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/338

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/1078

Quote from second link: “I would be very careful in dealing with Everbuying, as their customer service practices are somewhat shady.”

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I bought from everbuying several times and every time I got precisely what I bought, so I think its an average website. I really believe that its not the website to be feared of.

@hank, in description of 5-mode version is written “hi-low-strobe”, so its some kjind of mistake – wich kind I will see when I get the flashlight

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They have ocmplicated check put system, or discount system.

For example price of smiling shak is 12,99, but if I use coupon, its price goes up, and that they deduct coupon…
Really bad
So subtotal for these 3 flashlights before coupon is $43,73, and after 6% coupon its $43,34 Sad

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Everbuying tutorial: Big Smile

HERE: LOver price withpout coupon!!

SO, you can buy 2 lights with coupon, and one light without it, total priuce for me now is $42,29, umph Shocked

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how bout this one:
i dont have it, but over 1300 sold, sounds like a amazing light, anyone have this light??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1600-Lumen-Zoomable-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-18650-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-Lamp-Light-/170728199959#ht_6383wt_978

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found this one on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1800-Lm-Zoomable-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-26650-18650-Battery-Flashlight-Torch-Charger-/200760441452?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&var=&hash=item746df2a0b9

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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Funny, we’ve just done a full circle. This ultrafire light is a POPPAS 878 clone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1800-Lm-Zoomable-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-26650-18650-Ba…

This is exactly what I’ve got, and for cycling purposes I can’t think of a better ftt light. It’s bright, takes a 26650 for longer runtimes, compact and only 1 cell as opposed to 2 cells in series that can cause shorts when hitting bumps.

In hand I wouldn’t say it’s ugly, kind of masculine and high tech, although a little rough.

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Today I received 3 XML zoomies I ordered…
1) Trustfire z8
2) Ultrafire (SIpik-like) 18650 zoomie
3) Smiling Shark E7 zoomie

Few words/impressions about them:
1)Obviously good built quality, design is matter of taste, Im not so thrilled, switch looks really cheap and Ill probably try to change yellow-green rubber button to black one, for better looks purposes.
I knew that when I bought it, but 14500 and XML, hmmm, it certainly limits its usage.
Its small and heavy, but when I hold it in hand… hm,,, Im used to knurling and firmer grip. Also I prefer push and pull zoom rather than twist. This one I cant zoom in and out with one hand – wich is funny for such small flashlight, maybe after greasing…
As for the output, i dont know, maybe my 14500 wasnt full enough, but both other lights have far superior output, maybe twice stronger.
I dont like its UI. Its somewhat fiddly to zoom it in and out even with 2 hands Shocked

2)Maybe itll turn out that this is most balanced light of three. When unzoomed its smaller than UF-2100.
And its only about 1,5cm longer than Trustfire Z8, but receives 18650, so you figure it out…
I dont have much impressions about this light, because its totally same as Sipik Sk68, only little scaled up Smile

My came with 5 modes, wich I like, because it has middle mode. (middle power mode)

It has best zooming mechanism, perfect ratio of smoothness and hardness of zoom in and out (so on the bike itll be hard for zoom to change position, I think) – in most situations

3) SMilling shark- what to say – that was maybe my favourite at the first sight.
It looks an d feels somewhat solid, and it is solid.
Im all about light output so performance wins me over. It has widest spilll, and tightest hotspot.
Maybe its driven little more conservatively than Ultrafire, but you cant notice that very much.
Because hotsot is tighter and if you want throw it will throw further.
Because is little bigger it somehow looks like serious flashlight. Huge head travel. Very wide taimcap so it very easily tailstands.
One or two cons – it comes with 3XAAA holder, but it didnt come (they forgot?) with 18650 tube. (anybody else received it with 18650 tube.
I think itll receive 26650 wich I dont have, and it would be a pros.
And small designer flaw or something – lens protrudes through the bezel a little. (Plastic) lens rattles a little. I dont believe Ilost it aleady, but it laks obviously plastic retainer between bezel and lens. (SOme plastic retainer like on small sun C10). Thats why lens is protruding and it rattles. But I also think it would protrude even with that retainer. Ill try to fix that somehow, but all that is little anoying.

SO to conclude, Ultrafire didnt thrilled me maybe mainly because it looks like many sipiks I have, but its maybe best usable flashlight, and I like usability.
SMiling shark also has that potential, when I fix lens rattling and buy 26650. Little bigger flashlight, and itll have great runtiime (and its sertainly not to big for 26650 flashlight
Regarding Z8, heh, I dot know what to say. It has really good threads, but from I mostly us flashlight to shine light, I’m not taking it apart and assemblying it continuasly Smile
I dont think 14500 and XML are so good combo. I would rather take SIpik Sk68 with me than this light, much better GUI, more than enough output…
Maybe when I test it at night it will give me little better impression.

2 pics taken by not so good cell phone camera:

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I like the Tank737 best rom all zoomies I’ve got. Reviewed here at BLF

Its really nice flashlight and I had it – but its XRE zoomie.
I got my from Dinodirect, really nicely build, but it had a flaw, it was changing modes while zooming or when tilting the head, I dont remember – maybe it was repairable but it was nuissance, I gave it away

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