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Review: ML-102 Charger

Charger ML-102

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This charger is a very small 18650 charger, it need an external USB power source to charge, and can also work as a USB charger. It only charges one battery at a time.



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Only a USB cable is included with the charger, I did also order some spacers, making it possible to charge smaller batteries.

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The charger is powered from any USB source that can supply 1A, sadly it uses the mini and not the micro USB connector (The micro USB is much stronger and is the common charge connector on phones). Because the connector is on the side of the charger it is not possible to place a couple of these chargers beside each other.

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The charger also has a full size USB connection for power out, it can be used to charge a phone or other USB equipment.

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The charger has a couple of leds, one is placed on top of the charger and some other inside the charger.
The light is red when charging, both red and green when nearly full, green when finished and blue when supplying USB power.

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The plus connection is slightly raises, making it possible to charger flat top batteries, the spring at the minus connection is rather short, but long enough to support unprotected 18650 batteries.

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With the two spacers (Each 15.9 mm long) I included in my order the charger can also handle xx500 and xx340 cell, but the charger current is too high for many of these batteries.

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The charger can handle 69.6 mm long batteries, including flat top cells. Not all 26650 can be charged, it depends on the size and shape of the plus pole on the battery. With the spacers it is also possible to use smaller batteries, but watch the maximum charge current for the battery type!



Measurements

Below 2.8 volt the charger charges with 130 to 170 mA (Highest current at lowest voltage).
Between 2.8 volt and 4.2 volt the charger is applying regular charge current (See curve below).
When the charge current goes below 70mA the charging is stopped and it will discharge with less than 75 uA.
The charger will restart when the battery drops to 4.12 volt or power is cycled.
Reinserting the battery will not restart charging.
When charger is disconnected from power, but with a battery in, it will draw below 75uA from the battery.

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The charge curve does not look like a CC/CV charger, but the only disadvantage with this type of curve is the slower charge speed, the final result will be just as good as a CC/CV charger. The termination current is around 80mA, this is a good value.
The above curve is done with a USB power supply (or more correctly a lab power supply adjusted to 5 volt).

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Using a laptop as power supply does not change the charge curve significantly. The charger is using nearly 1A from the USB connector, this is more than allowed in the USB specifications, but nearly always works fine.

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What happens if a weak USB power supply is used or long cables, to simulate that I turned the power supply down to 4.5 volt. The charger continues to charge and stops when the battery is full, but it takes considerable longer time (nearly 10 hours).

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The charger also handles my old IMR cell without any problems.

Measurements on USB power

The charger can supply USB power while discharging the battery. It is possible to connect a USB power supply to the charger and connect the charger to some USB equipment and charge both at the same time.

USB specification says the voltage must be between 4.75 and 5.25 volt, I have placed a yellow line at 4.75 volt in the charts.

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The first curve is with a 20 ohm load, this gives a load current of 250 mA, the usb output stays exactly at 5.13 volt, until the battery is empty. It keeps a very good efficiency at about 90%.
The power is turned off when the battery is down to 3 volt and it does not turn on again when the battery voltage increases, this is a good design.

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Reducing the resistor increases the current to 500 mA and drops the voltage to 5.1 volt (probably due to cable losses). The efficiency is still very good at 85% to 90%.

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Reducing the resistor again increases the current to 550 mA, the efficiency is starting to drop now, but the voltage is stable.

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This time I have increased the current to 650 mA and this is at the limit of the circuit, the voltage is not stable anymore, but it can still supply this current for two hours and stay within the USB specifications.



Conclusion

This charger is a very compact LiIon charger with dual functionality (Can both charger USB devices and 18650 batteries), the charging profile is good, but not optimal for speed. I can see two obvious applications for this charger, one is for people with only a few 18650 batteries, the other is in a travel kit, where the ability to charger USB equipment from an 18650 battery can be very useful.
I like this charger and is going to add it to my traveling kit.


Notes

Here is an explanation on how I did the above charge curves: How do I test a charger

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That looks like a great little charger. Where did you get it and how much are they? I may have to get one as a spare charger.

Edit: never mind, just saw the other thread on it. Thanks for the great review on it. Smile

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JohnnyMac wrote:
That looks like a great little charger. Where did you get it and how much are they? I may have to get one as a spare charger. Edit: never mind, just saw the other thread on it. Thanks for the great review on it. :)

It is from intl-outdoor and is only $9.

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Thanks for the review. Think I should buy another of these. Word of caution, as mentioned some protected batteries like the popular Hi-Max 18650 don’t fit, but flames do np. Smile

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alex21 wrote:
Thanks for the review. Think I should buy another of these. Word of caution, as mentioned some protected batteries like the popular Hi-Max 18650 don't fit, but flames do np. :)

Then there are variations in the size, Hi-Max does fit in mine:

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HKJ wrote:

alex21 wrote:
Thanks for the review. Think I should buy another of these. Word of caution, as mentioned some protected batteries like the popular Hi-Max 18650 don’t fit, but flames do np. Smile

Then there are variations in the size, Hi-Max does fit in mine:

Thanks for the correction. Do you need to apply much force to get it in? Maybe I am worried about breaking something Smile

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Thanks HKJ. Received mine a view days ago from Hank, shipped to Finland in a week! Great build quality and works flawlessly. I use mine mainly to charge my phone on the go since the battery life is crap.

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alex21 wrote:
Thanks for the correction. Do you need to apply much force to get it in? Maybe I am worried about breaking something :)

I just press it against the spring, then it goes in without any problems.

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Great review, thank you!

That cleared half of my "waiting for review" list. Big Smile

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I always liked this charger a lot, particulary the ability to charge other devices with it and the travel aspect you mentioned, because it is also quite small.
Though I hesitated to buy it because no one ever reviewed it and I was really interested in the graphs you just presented us!
So… mange tak! :bigsmile:

Now to the charger:

The problem with the high charging currents for smaller capacity cells could easily been solved by using a lower current USB power supply (I got a 650mA one, I think this should be ok for 14500er) or am I missing something?

I really liked the ability that you can charge a cell with the carger and the charger can put out to other USB device at same time for the travel aspect, but than I realised that you wont save any time doing this, because the current from the USB power supply will split up to power both the charger and the second USB device.
You will end up with the same charging time as if you connect the charger first and after that the second device directly to the power supply. Correct me if I am wrong.

The ideal addition to this charger would be a small adjustable USB power adapter. Does anyone know something like this?

CNQ also has it for 8,50 but with 1000mA USB power adapter. Although it is described as ML-10*3*… or is it a different one?

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Philipp wrote:
Now to the charger: The problem with the high charging currents for smaller capacity cells could easily been solved by using a lower current USB power supply (I got a 650mA one, I think this should be ok for 14500er) or am I missing something?

That might work fine, if you can trust the supply to reduce voltage when overloaded, without blowing up.

 

Philipp wrote:
I really liked the ability that you can charge a cell with the carger and the charger can put out to other USB device at same time for the travel aspect, but than I realised that you wont save any time doing this, because the current from the USB power supply will split up to power both the charger and the second USB device. You will end up with the same charging time as if you connect the charger first and after that the second device directly to the power supply. Correct me if I am wrong.

It might take the same time, but for me the advantage is that I do not need to do anything while it is charging, i.e. I can start the charger when I go to bed and both phone and 18650 battery is filled the next morning.

 

 

Philipp wrote:
The ideal addition to this charger would be a small adjustable USB power adapter. Does anyone know something like this?

I am using a SKROSS dual USB charger, it is not adjustable, but it is small and works fine (I have not tested it, only used it).

Philipp wrote:
"CNQ":http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1331 also has it for 8,50 but with 1000mA USB power adapter. Although it is described as ML-10*3*... or is it a different one?

It is not the same, it uses different connectors and I do not believe it has USB power out.

The charging might be the same.

 

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Thanks for the review HKJ, does the ML-102 work for reviving overdischarged 18650s too?

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Very nice Smile Charge your battery and phone at the same time.. awesome charger just got better thx Smile

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wshyang wrote:
Thanks for the review HKJ, does the ML-102 work for reviving overdischarged 18650s too?

It will try to charge them at a lower current (below 170mA), how wise it is can be discussed.

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It will try to charge them at a lower current (below 170mA), how wise it is can be discussed.

I’ve tried it earlier with a 0.2V 18650 and it keeps flickering with a green and red LED pattern, as though there is no battery inserted. Does yours do the same too?

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HKJ wrote:

It will try to charge them at a lower current (below 170mA), how wise it is can be discussed.

I've tried it earlier with a 0.2V 18650 and it keeps flickering with a green and red LED pattern, as though there is no battery inserted. Does yours do the same too?

No, it goes a solid red.

I did not try with a battery (I do not have one with 0.2 volt), but shorted the plus and minus connection with a ammeter.

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Thanks HKJ!  I really like the two of mine, although I had to file down the edge of the charger so that my King Kong rasied top INR's would fit better (the raised top causes it to pop upward.  I don't have a photo of the filing, but my initial issue was documented in the other thread with photos.  I power mine with the USB A/C adaptors from Manafont (clones of the Apple iPhone ones) rated 1A output.

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Garry, do you have a link to those USB power supplies?

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Thanks for the review.
I’ve just added on to my order from intl-outdoor.
It’ll go in my travel kit.

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Garry, do you have a link to those USB power supplies?

Here ya go.  $1.96 each.  I bought three and wouldn't mind having more. 

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garrybunk wrote:

scaru wrote:

Garry, do you have a link to those USB power supplies?

Here ya go.  $1.96 each.  I bought three and wouldn't mind having more. 

-Garry

P.S.  I tried to give a link earlier, but I was in a hurry and couldn't find them.

Thanks, I saw those a while ago but haven't been able to find them since. 

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Hi HKJ,

Do you happen to know how much current the charger is pulling from the 18650 when charging a phone too?

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Thank you for the review HKJ.

I've been curious about this charger ever since I saw it the first time. Found a review on "taschenlampenforum.de" or something similar and they said it was good but no where as detailed as your in depth reviews. 

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wshyang wrote:
Hi HKJ, Do you happen to know how much current the charger is pulling from the 18650 when charging a phone too?

That depends on the phone and how much current it is drawing. In my charts for usb out there is a current line.

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wshyang wrote:
HKJ wrote:

It will try to charge them at a lower current (below 170mA), how wise it is can be discussed.

I've tried it earlier with a 0.2V 18650 and it keeps flickering with a green and red LED pattern, as though there is no battery inserted. Does yours do the same too?

Don't try charging 0.2V batteries, those are dead.  

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This is an awesome charger, the plastic is really tough.
Reverse polarity protection works. Resets the protection after has kick in protected cells and the voltage is 0.00V
When the battery voltage is too low cannot charge other devices, the blue light will not turn on and, the light not being on is a good thing because you have a visual representation of what's actually going on.

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Does anyone know if this can charge an IPad?

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I charged my iPhone fully without it blowing up. I can’t verify that it is a recommended practice though.

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Ouchyfoot wrote:
Does anyone know if this can charge an IPad?

No, it doesn’t.
I just tried it and the Apple says “not charging”.
It works on the Android Samsung Galaxy Tab though !

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