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The THROWER Thread

 Thrower: A flashlight that can throw its beam the farthest. The light will likely have a very narrow beam and may not give out the same lumens as others but these are for one aim, and one aim only, distance. Lux figures are important here, not lumens.

 

 
      
  



                      
 
 Flashlight Make/ModelApprox Lux (K)Supplier (Please shop around for better deals)Misc Info  
  $0-20 Jacob A6055http://www.dealextreme.com/p/jacob-a60-cree-q5-3-mode-310lm-white-led-flashlight-w-strap-black-1-x-18650-1142681x18650 -  XRE Q5 
 Small Sun c10 (Aspheric) 45(LS) http://www.dealextreme.com/p/smallsun-zy-c10-s-cree-q5-wc-230lm-3-mode-focus-adjustable-white-led-flashlight-1-x-18650-108290 1x18650 - XRE Q5 
  $21-30 UniqueFire HS 802  http://www.dealextreme.com/p/uniquefire-hs-802-cree-r2-wc-2-mode-230-lumen-led-flashlight-1-18650-2-cr123a-16538?item=2 1x18650 - XRE R2 
      
  $31-40 FandyFire HD201048http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Black_p135768.html?cc=USD 1x26650/18650 - XML 
      
  $41-50 Skyray STL-V252http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1692 (postage pushs it just over $40) 2x18650 - XML 
      
  $51-60  
   
      
  $61-80      
      
  $81-100 Crelant 7G5 58http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CRELANT-7G5-CREE-XM-L-U2-3-Mode-LED-Flashlight/500321955.html  2x18650 - XML 
      
  $101-150 Crelant 7G5 V2 + Collimator (aspheric)70 (SB)http://www.intl-outdoor.com/crelant-7g5v2-collimator-head-p-432.html  2x18650 - XML 
 

Crelant 7G9

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http://hkequipment.net/index.php?p=6&id=1423&lang=en&msg=Session Expiried!&s=

 

 

3x18650 - XML

 

 
  $151-200Dereelight DBS Turbo
(aspheric)
80 (SB)http://www.dereelight.com/nightmaster.htm 2x18650 - XRE 
 

EagleTac M3C4


 

60-65K est

http://www.illuminationgear.com/14322/27013.html

 

2x18650 - XML

 

 
  $201-250Thrunight TN31112 (SB) http://www.hkequipment.net/?sp=&p=6&cat2=198&cat1=55&cat0=1&id=1357&cat1=55&cat0=1&new=&more=&s=3855b15c54edb9cfcc6747f8d1542e8f&lang=en 3x18650 - XML 
 Fenix TK7085http://www.hkequipment.net/index.php?p=6&sp=&cat0=1&cat1=62&cat2=170&id=964&new=&more=pro_new&lang=en&msg=Session%20Expiried!&s= 4xD - 3xXML 
  $251-300  
  
      
  $300+ Olight SR95UT ($450)165http://goinggear.com/olight-sr95ut-ultra-throw-intimidator-1050-lumens-sbt-90-flashlight.html 2x18650 - SBT90 
   
  
    
 
 






  Interesting lights that fall out of scope otherwise:

         

        

  Make/ModelLuxSupplierMisc Info  

 Best AA ThrowerFenix TK4159K (claimed)http://www.fenixtactical.com/fenix-tk41.html 8xAA - XML  

 Best Coloured Emitter ThrowerUF HS-80230K esthttp://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/uniquefire-hs802-extra-deep-reflector-cree-r2-red-beam-2mode-led-flashlight-black-18650-p-10205 1x18650 - Red R2  

 Easy Budget mod #1 Small Sun C10/Nanjg 105c 2.8 68 
Ledsmoke wrote:
Regarding the Small Sun C10: I've measured it at 45 Kcd but since the reports of its tail cap current being anything from 0,8 A to 2,1 A I guess there are variations to measurements too. Mine pulled 1,4A in high and did 45 kCd. It is VERY easy to mod with Nanjg 105C 2,8 A driver (despite soldering of the led wires I consider it almost a "drop-in driver" solution for the light) With the Nanjg pulling a steady 2,8 A I get 68 kCd BTW.
   

 Easy Budget mod #2 UniqueFire UF-T20  
Manny wrote:
I have a Uniquefire UF-T20 aspheric, It's an E1320 mod XR-e 2.8amp... Throws 500 yards no problem  !
   

        

 

Obviously Lux readings are dependant on who tested them and lots of other factors so i have taken rough figures found by googling. I have also only included standard lights, modded lights may well give far better bang for buck but are a little out of scope for this. Where a bracket is found next to the Lux reading it indicates a figure close (rounded) to that persons readings, ie (SB) = Selfbuilt.

Misc info may not be complete, ie a light that takes 2x18650 may also take 4xCR123 etc or other battery combinations, i'll include the most common.

 

Advise for flashlight newbies: A lot of newbies want the wow factor of a thrower and indeed, to many the throwers give the biggest wow. With that said please check beamshot posts, as an example the Dereelight is an amazing thrower but the beam is almost laser like, this looks awesome but practical use is very limited. On the otherhand you have the TK70, this thing throws and floods but does this at expence of size. Think carefully as many throwers end up being shelf queens rarely used. A good P60 such as a solarforce package or a C8 such as the XinTD maybe a better starting point.

 

Disclaimer: I will try to keep the info accurate but i make no claim that it actually is. Confirm details with sellers/manufacturers if required.

Edited by: Jinx on 10/14/2012 - 10:31
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TY for doing this.

The (stock) Jacob A60 is around 55 Klux according to several different users including myself.

The Trustfire X9 - a once revered light around here - is approx 39 Klux stock. Also from several sources but not myself. Goes from around 33 usd on ebay.

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Thanks Ledsmoke, edited to add yours Smile

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Dont forget the SmallSun ZY-C10

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/smallsun-zy-c10-s-cree-q5-wc-230lm-3-mode-f...

I like this thread. We should build on it, instead of having 20 different thrower threads. Simple and informative. Comp chart/list.

I’m new to the forum, but am a regular visitor. I noticed there isnt much talk about recoil torches. Is there a reason why no one recommends them?

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I would like to add to the list the small sun ZY-T13, with a small trimpot mod will out throw the eagletac M3C4 XML, $24.24 at Manafont.

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/small-sun-zyt13-t6-5mode-1200lu...

Modification thread

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11830

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Hi Silverbolt, i had a C10 but didnt care for it and gave it away, but it is certainly a good thrower. ILikeFlashlights compared his with the Jacob in that price range tho and the Jacob just edges it.

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Jeansy wrote:
Hi Silverbolt, i had a C10 but didnt care for it and gave it away, but it is certainly a good thrower. ILikeFlashlights compared his with the Jacob in that price range tho and the Jacob just edges it.

I think I read that same thread, and I have to agree with you. The C10 is good, but the Jacob is alot sexier. I have both on the way and will probably have something done to the C10.

No one likes recoils?

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Dereelight dbs aspheric. It measures about 90-110k lux. I cant get the link on my phone though.

http://www.dereelight.com/nightmaster.htm Link to nightmaster

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How about the UltraFire HD2010?

I don't own one, but I think it's pretty good for a single-cell single-emitter torch.  (Maybe it's too floody?)

 

$33.52 at the moment.

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Gray_p135765.html

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Black_p135768.html

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Also the Thrunite TN31

EDIT: You can get the stl V2 for $37 at cnqg: http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1692

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How about the Elektrolumens ST90 …..

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Jeansy why listing the "fandyfire" version of the HD2010 only?

You can have it in many ****fire versions, Ultrafire, Trustfire, Tangsfire, name it!

The Ultrafire one I got from Tmart has an excellent price too 33,52USD, black or grey same price:

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flash...

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raccoon city wrote:

How about the UltraFire HD2010?

I don’t own one, but I think it’s pretty good for a single-cell single-emitter torch.  (Maybe it’s too floody?)

 

$33.52 at the moment.

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Gray_p135765.html

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Black_p135768.html

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Jeansy why listing the “fandyfire” version of the HD2010 only?

You can have it in many ****fire versions, Ultrafire, Trustfire, Tangsfire, name it!

The Ultrafire one I got from Tmart has an excellent price too 33,52USD, black or grey same price:

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Black_p135768.html?cc=USD

Wink

Don’t forget you can get 8% off that price with coupon code: TMPRICE (if you haven’t already used it on something else – it’s single use per customer only)

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Rockspider wrote:

Jeansy why listing the “fandyfire” version of the HD2010 only?

You can have it in many ****fire versions, Ultrafire, Trustfire, Tangsfire, name it!

The Ultrafire one I got from Tmart has an excellent price too 33,52USD, black or grey same price:

http://www.tmart.com/UItraFire-CREE-XMLT6-8W-1300-Lumen-5-Mode-LED-Flashlight-Black_p135768.html?cc=USD

Wink

I will list the cheapest version suggested mate unless they have driver issues etc. Thanks for the link, i will edit the table Smile

EDIT: OK with the suggestions we now have the STL-V2 and HD2010 in the same price bracket. What do you guys think, should i add an alternative for each price range or will that make it too comlicated/busy? Also im not sure i like just having a aspheric taking a bracket, although this thread is simply about throw….. What do you guys think?

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To my knowledge, at the moment all reviewed HD2010 have the same East092 driver, thus same performance Wink

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I’m pretty sure lux readings of the HD2010 are closer to 48k while the STL-V2 is around 52k cd.

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Do you think i should swap it out with this so we can add a second, alternative, reflector vs aspheric or disputed lights?

 

Edit: Deleted and replaced first chart

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Slewflash wrote:
I’m pretty sure lux readings of the HD2010 are closer to 48k while the STL-V2 is around 52k cd.

OK mate, i will edit, i was trying to round them to the nearest 5 lux due to variances, but with these so close your right, i might have to put those figures to show the difference.

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I think just put aspheric in brackets, eg.

  • 7G5V2 55k lux etc..
  • TN31 110k lux etc..
  • Dereelight nightmaster (aspheric) 115k lux etc…
  • 7G5V2 w/ collimator head (aspheric) 115k lux etc…

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This is confusing...

I looked at some of the ****fire HD2010 flashlights from DX and Tmart.  Some have one emitter, and some have three emitters.  Should both variants make the list?

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I saw the triple emitter one too. But I’m pretty sure the triple emitter isn’t made to be a thrower.

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As Slewflash, i think the triple will not be competative in Lux measurements although obviously any multi-emitter lights will be added if they are the best in the price range although with the TK70 out due to the TN31 i cant see any making the grade.

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I think there should be a separate table for multi-emmiters .

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taz wrote:

I think there should be a separate table for multi-emmiters .

Maybe a simple lumens table set out the same?

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we should have more of these charts. saves a lot of time
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taz wrote:

I think there should be a separate table for multi-emmiters .

But lights like the TK70 and Xtar S1 are big throwers and certainly deserve mention. I wouldn’t put a Skyray King on here though.

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Sorry for asking maybe already answered on a different thread. Is the Jacob A60 ever compared to this one?

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Actually, the Fandyfire and the Ultrafire HD2010s may have different drivers, so there’s at least 2 variations: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11267?page=2#comment-217699

East-092 on JohnnyMac’s Ultrafire
and East-092B on Night Breaker’s FandyFire

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TY Jeansy, great idea! Silverfish, I believe the main objections to the “recoil” concept are difficulty of heat dispersal and the emitter support arm and emitter being in the way of the beam. I have one recoil, a Pelican 2010, that produces a small hotspot and virtually no spill, from a comparatively weak emitter, but i think the heat problem may negate the use of the better emitters.
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I’m waiting for a xml recoil….

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