SKY RAY King look-a-like XM-L 2500 Lumens 4-mode Bike light

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SKY RAY King look-a-like XM-L 2500 Lumens 4-mode Bike light

Well look at that, Black SkyRay King modified as a bike light, with 4 modes including medium, and a 4 cell battery pack for $57. I’m so getting this!

http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1750

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but they can’t do modes for the regular king..nonsense

this looks cool though!

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pounder wrote:
*but they can’t do modes for the regular king..nonsense *

this looks cool though!


+1

That’s why I still don’t get the King.

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pounder wrote:
but they can’t do modes for the regular king..nonsense

this looks cool though!

+2. I always wanted to get the King as a bike light, but mounting issues and no medium were deal killers. This solution is perfect.

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Bike riders with single XM-L’s are a pain at night time enough as it is, they always leave them on high and blind everyone without even thinking about it.

I can just imagine driving past one of these on high shining right in my eyes and not being able to see for the next 30 seconds or more.

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I’ve been looking into getting a bike. This is perfect for putting on the bar.

The low mode should be lower.

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ezarc wrote:
Bike riders with single XM-L’s are a pain at night time enough as it is, they always leave them on high and blind everyone without even thinking about it.

I can just imagine driving past one of these on high shining right in my eyes and not being able to see for the next 30 seconds or more.

I agree that this is overkill. When on the road, a medium light (500 lumens max) is only needed while pointed at the ground. Even when alone in a park or on a forest trail 1000 lumens is still enough, given that it’s not a throwy beam.
But 2000+ lumens is just too much..

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Pok wrote:
pounder wrote:
*but they can’t do modes for the regular king..nonsense *

this looks cool though!


+1

That’s why I still don’t get the King.

agreed boys! king is a no buy until a medium..

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ezarc wrote:
Bike riders with single XM-L’s are a pain at night time enough as it is, they always leave them on high and blind everyone without even thinking about it.

I can just imagine driving past one of these on high shining right in my eyes and not being able to see for the next 30 seconds or more.

People should be responsible wether driving cars or riding bikes, that’s a given. Personally I like having brighter lights on trails as the more you see the less you are impeded by lack of vision, and it’s more fun when you can see more. This light would seem to offer a high quality of light at a small fraction of the cost of some of the ridiculously overpriced bike lights out there. Medium would be plenty for trail use, having the option of a high mode at 2400 Lumens sounds fun.

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Wow! I just bought a Cree XM-L T6 bike light off E-Bay for $36. If I had seen this first, I would have gone with it!

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leaftye wrote:
Slewflash wrote:
I agree that this is overkill. When on the road, a medium light (500 lumens max) is only needed while pointed at the ground. Even when alone in a park or on a forest trail 1000 lumens is still enough, given that it’s not a throwy beam. But 2000+ lumens is just too much..

Actually, I find that more light is necessary in bright areas of the city to create enough contrast to see the road.

Too bright? You guys are funny. Having more lumens in reserve isn’t a bad thing.

It actually isn’t necessary in bright areas of the city. In bright areas of the city it is as you say – bright. So why the need for even more illumination?
Please take your condescending tone elsewhere, and if you’ve ever ridden a bike at night on a forest trail you’d know that after 1000 lumens your night vision goes bye bye and an increase in brightness won’t help much more.

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Now I’m happy I didn’t buy the Shadow BL-21 yet, this looks really great!

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this is too cool. do you guys think this would be identical to the gold skyray king in terms of brightess and beam pattern? if so, i would totally get one of these. $57 including batteries is a steal. i dont ride a bike, but ill figure someplace to mount this sucker.

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blueb8llz wrote:
this is too cool. do you guys think this would be identical to the gold skyray king in terms of brightess and beam pattern? if so, i would totally get one of these. $57 including batteries is a steal. i dont ride a bike, but ill figure someplace to mount this sucker.

I do have to wonder about that. I’d think that lower quality batteries would limit output, and at this price, I wouldn’t expect the battery to have very nice cells. Maybe someone else will make a battery pack with replaceable cells, even one that uses 26650 batteries. 8)

The low mode should be lower.

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leaftye wrote:
Slewflash wrote:
leaftye wrote:
Slewflash wrote:
I agree that this is overkill. When on the road, a medium light (500 lumens max) is only needed while pointed at the ground. Even when alone in a park or on a forest trail 1000 lumens is still enough, given that it’s not a throwy beam. But 2000+ lumens is just too much..

Actually, I find that more light is necessary in bright areas of the city to create enough contrast to see the road.

Too bright? You guys are funny. Having more lumens in reserve isn’t a bad thing.

It actually isn’t necessary in bright areas of the city. In bright areas of the city it is as you say – bright. So why the need for even more illumination?
Please take your condescending tone elsewhere, and if you’ve ever ridden a bike at night on a forest trail you’d know that after 1000 lumens your night vision goes bye bye and an increase in brightness won’t help much more.

You missed what I meant by bright. I’m not talking about bright as in nice street lights and little else. That’s why I mentioned contrast. I’m talking about blinding signs and other types of city lights, that make it harder to see the road. It’s like how turning your dash lights on max reduce your ability to see the road even though your headlights are just as bright as they ever are. When those other lights are too bright, your eyes adjust. To compensate, you have to light up the road more.

Condescending tone? You’re being way too sensitive, possibly because you’re not even reading what I wrote. Actually, I see you as being the one with an attitude, and unfortunately it’s because you’re not reading what I wrote. If I said something else completely, I’d agree with you 100%. Given our locales, perhaps we use their our nuances to our language getting in the way.

To point out why I chose the words I did, I said reserve because you’re not forced to use all the lumens. If you find increased levels of brightness to be useless at a particular time and place, don’t use the excessive levels. The excessive levels are held in reserve. Use the appropriate level. That’s why lights have multiple levels.

Ok, I think I understand what you are saying now. But when I ride I don’t usually turn on my lights when I’m on the road, only when going through less illuminated places. I also understand where you’re coming from, and we’re two different people so I cannot say you’re wrong.
I called out your condescending tone because never when being respectful have I or anyone else ever said something along the lines of ‘you’re funny’.

I personally have never had the need to have such a high output in reserve, but I guess it’s a nice thing to have. But as I bring this discussion back to the original point; some people just gun it on max without a second thought about their surroundings, so for the amateur cyclist who doesn’t pay attention to where the light is shining, this is too much.

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Slewflash wrote:
ezarc wrote:
Bike riders with single XM-L’s are a pain at night time enough as it is, they always leave them on high and blind everyone without even thinking about it.

I can just imagine driving past one of these on high shining right in my eyes and not being able to see for the next 30 seconds or more.

I agree that this is overkill. When on the road, a medium light (500 lumens max) is only needed while pointed at the ground. Even when alone in a park or on a forest trail 1000 lumens is still enough, given that it’s not a throwy beam.
But 2000+ lumens is just too much..

In my bike set up i have 2 trusfire tr-j18. He going to kill me! Silly

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you can get the real deal for only double this price incl. original charger and cellpack.

Magicshine MJ-880 (it is like Fenix LD20 the most popular of its kind. there are much more expensive lights but, like LD20, this is in between the wide range of bike light products. high quality, very popular, and not too expensive stuff).

If anyone is interested in MJ-880, drop me a note and i'll hook you up. (for sure, dont pay the ~170€ on ebay, that's a total rip-off!)

DX.com has hundreds of cheap bike lights (XXXXlumens for ~40US$) if you're on a budget.

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chriscalderon wrote:
Slewflash wrote:
ezarc wrote:
Bike riders with single XM-L’s are a pain at night time enough as it is, they always leave them on high and blind everyone without even thinking about it.

I can just imagine driving past one of these on high shining right in my eyes and not being able to see for the next 30 seconds or more.

I agree that this is overkill. When on the road, a medium light (500 lumens max) is only needed while pointed at the ground. Even when alone in a park or on a forest trail 1000 lumens is still enough, given that it’s not a throwy beam.
But 2000+ lumens is just too much..

In my bike set up i have 2 trusfire tr-j18. He going to kill me! Silly

You’re funny…

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What do you guys say about heat in this one?
Can it run for a long time without getting overheated/damaged?
For me I would use it on my Quad-bike when plowing snow so typically the outdoor temperature would be -5 to -20 Celcius. I assume that would help…..?
Maybe batterytime at those temperatures drastically are reduced?

And one more….does not seem to come with any attachment accesories. Not for bikes and not for head…..

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Slewflash wrote:
I called out your condescending tone because never when being respectful have I or anyone else ever said something along the lines of ‘you’re funny’.

I can see your point on this. I was thinking that because we’re a flashlight community, more lumens is hardly a bad thing. I meant it like how in the muscle car community, there’s hardly a thing as too much power, especially as applied to every single person. Yes, some people realize that they will never use all that horsepower or light, but I bet there’s a few people in their respective enthusiast community that can use it or will gleefully try to use all of it. As you said at the end of our complete post though, that can cause some trouble. I’m a lumenaholic, I’ll take super high lumen modes, even if I should never need them. Like how I would love a 600 lumen backpacking headlight that weighs less than my 220 lumen headlight. I might never need the extra lumens, but it’s there if the need arises. I also like long battery life too, so I always try to use the lowest mode possible. If we were riding together, I doubt you’d find my headlight output offensive.

The low mode should be lower.

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leaftye wrote:
joa wrote:
And one more….does not seem to come with any attachment accesories. Not for bikes and not for head…..

The pictures aren’t great, but it looks like it might use the same type of mounting point and battery as Magicshine lights. There are headstraps for Magicshine. Spare battery packs too. I’m hoping both work with this light. Maybe Ric can confirm for us.

That’s what I was thinking, I’ve got the Gemini Titan bike light with the same sort of battery pack and headstrap.

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The looks good Smile
I wonder what type of battery pack it uses?

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Here is a triple for $48 shipped

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This isn’t necessarily the same kind of thing as the King. Looks like just another 3*xml bike light with a skyray logo.

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joa wrote:
What do you guys say about heat in this one? Can it run for a long time without getting overheated/damaged? For me I would use it on my Quad-bike when plowing snow so typically the outdoor temperature would be -5 to -20 Celcius. I assume that would help.....? Maybe batterytime at those temperatures drastically are reduced? And one more....does not seem to come with any attachment accesories. Not for bikes and not for head.....

joa, heat is typically not an issue with a bike light with the air flow cooling it down (as long as you keep moving). Ambient air temperature is also a factor for high powered lights, so sometimes at slow speeds (like climbing on a mountain bike) you need to step down to low or medium. It will be interesting to see if this light has heat issues on highest setting though.

I'm with you on mounting accessories - I'm going to send Ric a note to see what's up with that. I wouldn't buy it without knowing and the pictures are very vague. I'll also ask about the cell capacities.

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Yeah, seems to have a bracket on the base of the light, but no mention of anything to fix it to the bike.

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kreisler wrote:

you can get the real deal for only double this price incl. original charger and cellpack.

Magicshine MJ-880 (it is like Fenix LD20 the most popular of its kind. there are much more expensive lights but, like LD20, this is in between the wide range of bike light products. high quality, very popular, and not too expensive stuff).

If anyone is interested in MJ-880, drop me a note and i'll hook you up. (for sure, dont pay the ~170€ on ebay, that's a total rip-off!)

DX.com has hundreds of cheap bike lights (XXXXlumens for ~40US$) if you're on a budget.

kreisler, I have been following bike lighting for years and personally would never recommend a Magicshine if there is an alternative available. At one point, the MS revolutionized bike lighting by offering an incredibly cheap bright alternative at literally a fraction of the cost of existing lights. The MS turned the industry on it's head and forced the established companies to really compete. But it is one of the most inconsistent (quality wise) and most copied bike lights in existence. If you want, I'll be glad to post multiple links to issues with this light, including broken wires, electronics snafus and wide scale cases of battery failure. The latter even resulted in a recall in the U.S. No reason to buy this brand now with many other low priced and better quality options. Just my opinion...

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BetweenRides wrote:
If you want, I'll be glad to post multiple links to issues with this light, including broken wires, electronics snafus and wide scale cases of battery failure. The latter even resulted in a recall in the U.S. No reason to buy this brand now with many other low priced and better quality options. Just my opinion...

Are you sure that we're talking about the same model, their latest product the new flagship model MJ-880? I know that in earlier times Magicshine had a recall on a best-selling product. But this is the new model, MJ-880. Everybody in the bike world knows it and so many love it.

You're right, sites like DX have tons of cheap alternatives. I wouldnt mind buying the cheap DX lights Smile

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Where’s a good place to buy the MJ-880? Its expensive on ebay, but looks good.

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MattSPL wrote:
Where's a good place to buy the MJ-880? Its expensive on ebay, but looks good.

cypm Wink

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I already emailed customer service and just PM’d Ric asking for information on the Driver, perfomance, batteries and acessories. I’m not expecting much from the battery pack, it looks like a standard clone light pack that needs some DIY to make it waterproof. If it’s the King modified for cycling then that would be awesome.

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