Any new D/C cell high lumen lights out recently/coming out soon?

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Any new D/C cell high lumen lights out recently/coming out soon?

Hey all:

I’d interested in any new D or C (or even multiple AA) cell lights with high lumens out recently or coming out soon. Ideally, I’d like something like a Fenix TK70 with a neutral or better yet, a warm tint. And less than $229.

I’m interested in D, C and AA cells due to the number of cells I already have. I also own the Cyclone C88 and love it.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

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There is one light that I've had my eyes on for a while that comes in at price that is comfortable below the TK70 but I must admit it is a bit long. If you are used to the D series maglites then it should be no problem for you though this one uses 5 C size cells.

Here it is

And a picture of this 35$ 5C XML sideswitch light...

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If you don't care for the XR-E then this is not 4 U but here U go anyways Wink This is at least D size cells.

Also with side switch from DX

 

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Manafont has some more smallsuns

This

 

 

This

 

 

 

And the sames as 3 D

 

I know the first is not a zoomie but I think these are really cheap and could always be given to friends.

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How many lumens is the 5C XM-L? Runtime? Any beamshots?

Thanks for the heads-up!

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I don't know and no.

But a conservative guess would be ~ 750 initially and then going down. To me half of the attraction would be whether it can drain the batteries properly, maybe even beyond 0,9 V. I have a few lights that will do that and I love that when I run them on primaries they will not turn off until those batteries are EMPTY.

If it has a decent spacing between high and low then the runtime on this should be very good actually. 5 C cells are around 1,6 V initially and then down to say 0,9 V for a total discharge of about 4000 mAh (going by memory here so please correct me if my numbers are off).

Rough calculation of power is 4000 mAh * (1,6-0,9) = 2800 mW

5 cells => 5*2800 mW = 14000 mW

2,5 A initially to the led and 80% efficiency would give 3100 mAh consumed at the batteries and with a 3,2 V Vf of the led it would consume 9,9 W giving about 85 minutes of runtime on high. Actual numbers would be higher since I don't thing the driver will hold that so maybe 3 hours until the output is half of initial turn on. On low the output is probably something like 30% of high so the runtime would be 5 hours,

But this is all academic since I know of no reviews, I dont have the light and I have been waiting for a review to pop up but alas none has. 

But the size of the head probably lends itself to a good balanced beam with fair throw and fairly bright flood of a big area in front of you.

You know what? I may have just talked myself into getting one to see if I am totally off with all my speculations here Smile

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As somebody else already mentioned in a different thread,

the Trustfire TR-J12 (5 XM-L) works pretty well with C-cells

I just stuck 4 freshly charged Tenergy Centura 4Ah LSD cells in mine,
tailcap currents were 5.6A/3A/0.4A on H/M/L

Tube seems a bit longer than some others,
to make reliable contact I might have to add a magnet or some other kind of small spacer

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Fantastic – did not realize 4xC cells could replace 3×18650/26650s.

Is the Trustfire TR-J12 the best bang for the buck with C-cell replacement? Any other lights work well with C-cell replacement?

Also, anyone know what kind of lumens the Cs produce as opposed to 18650/26650s in the TR-J12?

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mitro had a comment here
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6597#comment-111537

and drd here
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6970?page=2#comment-169252
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6970?page=2#comment-170166

Only battery tubes for 26650 will fit C-size cells,
if it’s meant for 18650 only it’s too thin (~18mm)

According to Wikipedia C-size is 26.2mm dia × 50mm long
26650 is obviously 26mm dia x 65mm long (nominal, may be longer with protected cells)
so 3× 26650 should be ~195mm long, 4x C-size 200mm long

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that is wonderful! if all 3×26650 lights can be replaced using 4x c cells, then heres another option for ya. the skyray 9xml light. but you should wait to see if others can chime in and confirm that 4 c cells will actually fit. if so, this would be the light to go for.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/12767?destination=node%2F12767&7313_nam...

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blueb8llz wrote:
that is wonderful! if all 3×26650 lights can be replaced using 4x c cells, then heres another option for ya. the skyray 9xml light. but you should wait to see if others can chime in and confirm that 4 c cells will actually fit. if so, this would be the light to go for.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/12767?destination=node%2F12767&7313_nam...

I don’t think it’ll work for all lights.

Mechanically/dimensionally 3×26650=4xC-size,
but if the driver doesn’t support the low voltage of 4x NiMH it might not work.
But it’s confirmed for TR-J12.
I also tried it on a TR-J18 that I have, but current draw with 4xC-size was a lot lower (only ~2A)
so with that one it doesn’t work as well.

Should be receiving a 9x XM-L soon, will see how that fares with NiMH

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Anyone know the tint/color temperature of the TR-J12? Is it cool/neutral/warm?

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I had the “777” Smallsun.
It threw pretty well and was as bright as you would expect.
I think it was not regulated or something, since it faded pretty fast with Alkalines…

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These lights are more than LED Mag Lights…

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The TF 3t6 works with 4 AA (same length as C’s). Draws 4A for full brightness in high mode.

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Tecmo wrote:
These lights are more than LED Mag Lights…

Dunno where OP lives but in the US normal stores tend to carry more C/D cell cree lights, like Rayovac “Indestructible” 3c/2D

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agenthex wrote:
Tecmo wrote:
These lights are more than LED Mag Lights…

Dunno where OP lives but in the US normal stores tend to carry more C/D cell cree lights, like Rayovac “Indestructible” 3c/2D

Correct – I’m from the US and have a bunch of AA, C and D size NiMH cells.

One more question – any other neutral/warm multiple XML lights without PWM (that can use AAs or Cs)? Trustfires seem to have bad PWM.

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Pretty much all budget lights use pwm for lower modes. Skyray king pwm is pretty bad on low, too. 200hz. Dry is around that, too.

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I just meant why would someone buy a small sun q5 for more than a mag?

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Mags are pretty expensive outside the US. Even in the US $25-35 > $17.

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Sigster wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
that is wonderful! if all 3×26650 lights can be replaced using 4x c cells, then heres another option for ya. the skyray 9xml light. but you should wait to see if others can chime in and confirm that 4 c cells will actually fit. if so, this would be the light to go for.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/12767?destination=node%2F12767&7313_nam...

I don’t think it’ll work for all lights.

Mechanically/dimensionally 3×26650=4xC-size,
but if the driver doesn’t support the low voltage of 4x NiMH it might not work.
But it’s confirmed for TR-J12.
I also tried it on a TR-J18 that I have, but current draw with 4xC-size was a lot lower (only ~2A)
so with that one it doesn’t work as well.

Should be receiving a 9x XM-L soon, will see how that fares with NiMH

-S

which 9xml are you getting? so with the 4xc size on the tr j18, it was less bright than using 18650s and 26650?

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Since I just got a light meter

Quick and dirty ceiling bounce measurements in the bedroom

Light Lux w. NiMH Lux w. Li
TR-J12 225 (4xC) 215 (3×26650)
TR-J18 90 (4xC) 235 (3×26650)
UF 7T6 180 (4xC) 190 (3×26650)
TF X100 95 (4xC) 350 (3×26650) 310 (4×26650)
SR King 210 (4×18650)
TF 9XT6 320 (3×26650)
TR-3T6 110 (4xAA) 125 (3×18650)

The TF 9x XM-L I got won’t even start on C-cells.

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Thank you Sigster for the great info!

The TR-J12 is looking might good on C cells.

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Sigster wrote:
Since I just got a light meter

Quick and dirty ceiling bounce measurements in the bedroom

Light Lux w. NiMH Lux w. Li
TR-J12 225 (4xC) 215 (3×26650)
TR-J18 90 (4xC) 235 (3×26650)
UF 7T6 180 (4xC) 190 (3×26650)
TF X100 95 (4xC) 350 (3×26650) 310 (4×26650)
SR King 210 (4×18650)
TF 9XT6 320 (3×26650)
TR-3T6 110 (4xAA) 125 (3×18650)

The TF 9x XM-L I got won’t even start on C-cells.

-S

How does the UF 7t6 compare to the J12 or J18? Kind of interesting it’s not called the 6t6 given it has 6 emitters (even though product description says 7…).

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agenthex wrote:
How does the UF 7t6 compare to the J12 or J18? Kind of interesting it’s not called the 6t6 given it has 6 emitters (even though product description says 7…).

Mine says

UltraFire XM-L 7T6 – Brightness up to 9000LM

on the side and has 7 emitters

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So, would you say it’s better/worse build/tint compared to the trustfires? Thinking of getting a super-flooder and would appreciate some comments, thanks.

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Ledsmoke wrote:

There is one light that I’ve had my eyes on for a while that comes in at price that is comfortable below the TK70 but I must admit it is a bit long. If you are used to the D series maglites then it should be no problem for you though this one uses 5 C size cells.

Here it is

And a picture of this 35$ 5C XML sideswitch light…

WOW! I have ALWAYS liked the feel of C cell Mags. This one looks REALLY interesting. I also saw that, for another $9, you can get a tube for it that will fit 2×18650. So if you have both types of batteries, this might be a REALLY good way to go! You could use C cells if you want runtime or a light that can double as a weapon. Or, if you want something smaller, switch to 2×18650. Either way, another nice thing about this light is that you don’t have to worry about failing battery holders.

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Here’s a 6 C cell light that just got listed online at Costco:

http://www.costco.com/Life%2bGear-1000-Lumen-LED-Flashlight-with-Flasher.product.100008746.html

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Takes 3AA’s, 6, or 9.

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Chilipepr wrote:
Here's a *6* C cell light that just got listed online at Costco: http://www.costco.com/Life%2bGear-1000-Lumen-LED-Flashlight-with-Flasher... !http://images.costco.com/image/media/oos350-698171-847__1.jpg![/quote]

 

Uhh that is a brute! I like it Smile

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Chilipepr wrote:
Here’s a 6 C cell light that just got listed online at Costco:

http://www.costco.com/Life%2bGear-1000-Lumen-LED-Flashlight-with-Flasher.product.100008746.html

!http://images.costco.com/image/media/oos350-698171-847__1.jpg!

The only thing about this light is that the price seems a LITTLE steep for something that isn’t a ‘big name’. I myself would rather get the UF-5C for $34 ($43 with 2×18650 adaptor tube) than this light for $100 – even if you lose a little runtime because of fewer batteries. Plus, I like the idea that the UF-5C can be big when you want it (with 5xC) or small when you want it (2×18650). I would also rather pay $10 (or so) more and get a Fenix TK60. I’m not saying thid light is bad. But at least with the Fenix, you KNOW you’re getting a quality light.

The aforementioned HP550 is also a MUCH better deal for $49 at Costco. Just keep in mind that some parts of the country have been completely passed up when it comes to the availability of this light. For instance, we never saw it here in Northern California. And Cosctco WON’T ship from store to store. I ended up having to ask a friend in Southern California to ship one to me!

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