Review / Comparison: P60 Drop-In Round-Up and XM-L Shootout

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I'll put these above where they belong but I thought I'd show how one of my U2's compares to the MD26.

XM-L/U2 in a Solarforce L2P

Vinz MD26E in my old version silver L2.

You can see the SMO delivering more throw against the fence at the end but clearly, one module is brighter than the other.

 

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What more can I say? Fantastic work Foy, thanks.

I’ve enjoyed being entertained and educated by many members of this site but I have to say no one has hurt my wallet more than you. The 7 S/F L2 whatevers I currently have, the 4 I gifted, all of course needed drop ins, Manafont U/Fs, INT’L Outdoors, E-1320s etc. Without a doubt, you’ve been correct directing me each time but now I need a VINZ, and another L2P to go with it.

To make matters worse, I seem to like making my own P60 drop-ins thanks to folks like OL, Match and E1320 who seem compelled to answer my questions and encourage my anti-wallet behavior. At any rate you’re responsibile, you’ll be hearing from my attorney

p.s. I can’t wait to see Matches P60!!!

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I can't wait to see Match's drop-in either.

 

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Awesome roundup of an impressive collection.

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Wow Foy Huge effort! I think you need some of those bulb holders SF sells.

 

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Thank you Foy! this is one great write up man Beer
guess my first p60 drop-in is going to be from manafont (Ultrafire XML T6 3Mode)

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Very nice work Foy !   

Makes me want to play !   Its Wednesday today , school finishes Friday , for ever !  

I been thinking about a lathe for ever , Solarforce L2 is so lego , so mod friendly , and those drop ins just make me sad all over !

Sad cos I havent played for almost 2 years ..

Hmmm , maybe time to play hard !   

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The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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School taking all your time . . . as it should be.  Definitely the right priority.  Real life has been dragging me away too.  Amazing how fast things change around here.  Seems a lot different over these past few months.  When I first came here, it was your reviews that influenced my direction for a while.

I see you still have your site going . . . looks pretty good.

 

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Foy wrote:

School taking all your time . . . as it should be.  Definitely the right priority.  Real life has been dragging me away too.  Amazing how fast things change around here.  Seems a lot different over these past few months.  When I first came here, it was your reviews that influenced my direction for a while.

I see you still have your site going . . . looks pretty good.

 

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 Unfortunately little time to do anything with the web :

Most of my school work is done , a few things to tidy up , maybe stuff needing submitting on the work tracking system ..

Next week Im free ...   

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Incredible reference Foy! Thanks so much for all the time you put into this. Frontpage’d and Sticky’d.

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A great review I had somehow missed ...nice work .

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Great review Foy :bigsmile:

That Vinz drop-in is a work of art Smile
Will it fit Solarforce and Surefire lights?

Also, do the standard 3A Solarforce tailcap switches hold up ok with all those high current P60’s?

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what a great thread foy… im wanting one of those vinz drop ins!

i too would like to know if the solarforce switches hold up ok past 3amps
or did you mod with mcclicky?

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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Solarforce switches work pretty well, I would start thinking about replacing them from 4A up..

I once compared some switches:

no tailcap: 3.48A
-Solarforce switch: 3.43A
-Ultrafire switch: 3.47A
-copper modded switch: 3.48A

Negligible.

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NightCrawl wrote:

Solarforce switches work pretty well, I would start thinking about replacing them from 4A up..

I once compared some switches:

no tailcap: 3.48A
-Solarforce switch: 3.43A
-Ultrafire switch: 3.47A
-copper modded switch: 3.48A

Negligible.

Thanks for the info Smile

Do you know if a McClicky can fit in the new style Solarforce tailcaps, and where can McClicky’s be sourced?

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MattSPL wrote:
NightCrawl wrote:

Solarforce switches work pretty well, I would start thinking about replacing them from 4A up..

I once compared some switches:

no tailcap: 3.48A
-Solarforce switch: 3.43A
-Ultrafire switch: 3.47A
-copper modded switch: 3.48A

Negligible.

Thanks for the info Smile

Do you know if a McClicky can fit in the new style Solarforce tailcaps, and where can McClicky’s be sourced?

Cheers
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i tried fitting a mcclicky in my l2t tail stand

it did NOT fit… at least it wont without some sort of modification etc

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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jmpaul320 wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
NightCrawl wrote:

Solarforce switches work pretty well, I would start thinking about replacing them from 4A up..

I once compared some switches:

no tailcap: 3.48A
-Solarforce switch: 3.43A
-Ultrafire switch: 3.47A
-copper modded switch: 3.48A

Negligible.

Thanks for the info Smile

Do you know if a McClicky can fit in the new style Solarforce tailcaps, and where can McClicky’s be sourced?

Cheers
Matt

i tried fitting a mcclicky in my l2t tail stand

it did NOT fit… at least it wont without some sort of modification etc

I seem to remember hearing that some modification might be needed to make them fit.

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Why do you want a McClicky anyway?^^ I figured I dont need them.

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Just wondering do we need them when using 4 or 5A drop-ins?

I really want a Solarforce P1d, but would like to use a drop-in around the 4 or 5A mark, so, i’m curious if the Solarforce switch will handle it ok, or if i need a McClicky?

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It wont burn up but it might limit the current a little.

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NightCrawl wrote:

It wont burn up but it might limit the current a little.

Ok, sounds worth a go Smile

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i couldnt resist… i had to pm vinz and i am in the process of ordering one… how could i not? seriously.

thanks foy Smile

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Just curious.
thx.

 

 

 

 

 
 
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3-7-13 update

I get tired just reading this, thinking of all the work it entailed.  I have other reviews that are read more often but of everything I've published here on BLF, what I wrote here I am most proud of.  Interesting that it is less read than most of my other reviews.  I guess everybody else isn't as taken with the P60verse as Foy is.

 

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Well I for one certainly appreciate the effort that went into this comparison. I found it very interesting!

Best of all, since by the time you posted this I was making all my P60 drop-ins, it may be one of the only reviews you ever wrote that didn’t cost me any cash. Though every time I read it I’m tempted to contact Vinz.

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Foy wrote:

3-7-13 update

I get tired just reading this, thinking of all the work it entailed.  I have other reviews that are read more often but of everything I’ve published here on BLF, what I wrote here I am most proud of.  Interesting that it is less read than most of my other reviews.  I guess everybody else isn’t as taken with the P60verse as Foy is.

 

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this thread made me buy a vinz p60! Smile

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Definitely my fave thread on BLF. Awesome source of info for P60 drop ins. Largely due to a Foy suggestion, my first “real” light was a SF L2. It is has become my work edc and appears to be nearly indestructible. All other lights have been relegated to back up duties. Thanks Foy.
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Just starting my P60 collection.. This will prove to empty my wallet quite efficiently. Thanx!!

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subbed! just found this after i just put my first p60 together… go figure… i ended up getting the SF XM-L T6 3.7-8.4V (on sale) because I got a extension tube with my L2P host and wanted the option of a 2nd 18650 for added run time.

now… i’m rethinking that MF 3mode… pick up an L2M host and use that for the SF drop-in with extender and use the MF 3 mode in the L2P…. I just kind of got into this whole flashaholic thing… the Vinz looks amazing, as to the Egrenades… not sure i’m willing to go there … (this is BLF afterall ;))

… actually does anyone know if the new XM-L2 p60s available would outperform this group (not including the Vinz or Egrenades) of XM-Ls?

thanks foy for the info and wisdom!!

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Excellent work, Foy. Superb effort, with invaluable information that is/will be extremely useful to many P60 lovers, out there, including me. Thank you, kindly, for sharing this information with us.

The only Erik Kress drop-in I own is one of his 5-mode XM-L 7C, which is currently installed in a Solarforce L2N, with an A001 head, a B6 stainless bezel, their stainless clip, and an S11 switch. I love this light. This was my first warm-tinted drop-in, and it is nothing shy of amazing, in all aspects Big Smile


I’m afraid, the auto white balance setting I used, for this picture, doesn’t do the tint, justice. It’s absolutely beautiful.

Out of curiosity, wow does one get a hold of Vinz, to obtain one of his beautiful drop-ins?

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