Help selecting 18650 LiFePO4 charger

Hello everyone, I’m looking for a good, high-quality charger for 18650 LiFePO4 batteries. I have searched quite a bit on this forum and otherwise, but have not found any conclusive review or recommendation about this. On Ebay there are about 5 models available:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-AA-700mAh-3-2V-LiFePO4-Rechargeable-Battery-AAA-18650-123A-NIMH-NICD-Charger-/150866383347?pt=US_Rechargeable_Batteries&hash=item23205651f3

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenergy-TN385-LiFePO4-18500-18650-14500-RCR123A-Battery-Charger-Fast-Ship-/121010646816?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item1c2ccbef20

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-18650-1500MAH-LiFePO4-battery-Multifunctional-Charger-for-Ni-HM-Ni-Cd-battery-/260869908626?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item3cbd0ee892

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trustfire-TR006-Wall-Charger-For-26650-18650-LiFePO4-Li-ion-Lithium-Battery-/130797024978?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item1e741c36d2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-New-Original-UltraFire-WF-188-Charger-For-18650-18600-16340-ect-Batteries-/200710242738?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item2ebb4341b2

Which one would you choose among these?

Or, is there another one you would rather get?

I’m also looking for good 18650 LiFePO4 batteries, which are not too expensive, and would welcome recommendations about which ones to get.

Last question. I have read that LiFePO4 batteries should not be discharged below 3.0V. I’m considering 18650 batteries here. If you use them in a flashlight until the light output drops, does that happen before the voltage drops below 3.0V, or do you have to take the batteries out before, to avoid excessive discharge?

Advice about this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

What about charger from Soshine ?

I have got some of their chargers, universal Li-ion/Ni-Mh, LiFePo4/Ni-Mh, all are quite nice & easy to use as most charger.

They also have 18650 Protected LiFePo4 battery as well.

I got two 26650 4200mAh Li-ion from them, capacity figure (discharge at 1A to 3V cutoff) were 4596mA / 4697mA respectively.

If your flashlight driver with built-in low voltage indicator/protection, paired with protected battery, then you’re fine.

You may contact Soshine for pricing, look for Merry siling.soshine@gmail.com

The 4Sevens Single Bay charger will charge Li-FePO4 cells, and HKJ thinks it is good.

HKJ’s review here:

http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charger%204Sevens%20Single%20bay%20V2%20UK.html

I have the v2 model; I think they have v3 and possibly even v4 now.

edit: fixed link

Thanks Iron and Woody for your input on this.

I also found this review, which seems to indicate that this is a good charger, and can handle many different battery sizes:

http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charger%20UltraFire%20WF-188%20UK.html

Would be interested to hear if anyone has experience with it as well.

I have couple of those WF-188’s (was in need to constantly recharge 12-pack of LiFePO4 18650’s), they’re definitively nowhere near “high quality” (which is what you want, according to OP).

What part of the world are you from, btw? We might be able to name you better deals if we know where you need stuff shipped to (e.g. if you’re in USA, quite a few eBay sellers will have free shipping there).

I have the WF-188 and it seems to require a mod right out of the package (old4570's mod). I did the mod and use it occasionally. I just recently picked up some LifePO4 cells (14500) and charged them in this. They seem to have cut off at a lower voltage than I was told to expect, but I don't remember what it was. My 18650's terminate right at 4.20v. Shadowww is right, I wouldn't call it a high-quality charger.

-Garry

The K2 battery data sheets say 2.5V is the low voltage cutoff. There is plenty of useful energy left in LifePo4’s below 3.0V.

There was another recent thread where someone mentioned 18650 K2 batteries on sale at Fry’s. Hopefully mine will be in the mailbox today.

Nope, not at any reasonable currents.

O.K. fair enough :slight_smile: then I will amend my statement to: “it depends on the discharge rate and the battery manufacturer, so do the research”.

You have to like the flat discharge curve of LifPo4. Here is the 18650P K2 discharge curve . I would think one of the main reasons for selecting a quality LifePo4 chemistry would be for the high discharge rate. An example would be driving say single XML (3A) or Triple XML in parallel (9A). With the K2’s then you are leaving a significant amount, or even most, of energy on the table with a 3.0V cutoff.

Thank you Shadow and Garry for your reply re. the WF-188, so, yes, I would look for another one. I’m in the U.S. by the way, and would appreciate more tips on what charger to get. For now, unless I hear about other ones, I’m leaning toward “4Sevens Single Bay Charger”:

http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charger%204Sevens%20Single%20bay%20V2%20UK.html

because it supports several battery sizes. Only disadvantage it only has one bay.

I’m adopting LiFePO4s
to use with family bicycle lights (the 4x cell case recently popular).

Has anyone recommended a better charger for 18650 LiFePO4 cells?

Very happy with Xtar VP2, and it will be enough for all your Li batteries (3.6V, 4.2V and 4.35V). Just remember that multiple abilities provide flexibility but require attention to the settings before use (in this case, the charger switch at 3.6V). Review here

I just picked up a VP2 from GearBest. I emailed May asking for a coupon code (due to the old code running out). I couldn't pass it up for the price. There are other Xtar models that also charge LifePo4. There is a model which is basically a VP2 without the display.

-Garry