What do you think about the new ganzo G711?, it has a beautiful wide flat blade. And wich do you prefer, the ganzo g704 or g711?

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What do you think about the new ganzo G711?, it has a beautiful wide flat blade. And wich do you prefer, the ganzo g704 or g711?

What do you think about the new ganzo G711?, it has a beautiful wide flat blade. And wich do you prefer, the ganzo g704 or g711?

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I like the looks of the 704 better.. I just ordered a Enlan EL01 on Monday.

 

 

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Still prefer the style of my el04, but they’re both pretty nice

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Its curved handle feels good in the hand although a wider cutout (like on the EL08) would make it even better. Thanks to its full flat ground blade it excels in slicing too:

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Do they really upgrade the steel for $1 ? Or are they just printing a extra C next to the 440.

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IMO, Bee/Enlan and Sanrenmu (SRM) knives are made with a higher quality of steel that can be honed to a finer edge and hold it longer. Their build quality is much better, more consistent, better finished and with a far superior factory edge. Ive gifted at least 500+ so Ive had many to compare.

Ive gifted all of my Ganzo’s. Unless something revolutionary happens to improve them, I wont be buying any more.

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rikr wrote:
I like the looks of the 704 better.. I just ordered a Enlan EL01 on Monday.

I have yet to find a better medium-large EDC for the money (EL01 non-serrated version). Mine and several others have been to hell and back. Some have been resharpened dozens of times and keep working hard in their daily lives.

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Unfortunately most of the SRMs are too small to be useful.
So I continue to take advantage of the use of my Ganzos (G704, G710, G711).

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Yeah, SRM is nice but almost all of them are too small to get a good grip with. The 938 is an exception and makes an excellent slicer.

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rikr wrote:
I like the looks of the 704 better.. I just ordered a Enlan EL01 on Monday.

I have yet to find a better medium-large EDC for the money (EL01 non-serrated version). Mine and several others have been to hell and back. Some have been resharpened dozens of times and keep working hard in their daily lives.

That’s the one I ordered to.. I just placed another order for the Ganzo G707. Any recommendations on my next knife? Thanks for your input. Smile

 

 

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FlashPilot wrote:
Ive gifted at least 500+ so Ive had many to compare…

Damn you must have some happy friends! :bigsmile:

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I like Ganzo and Navy. My Navy K-607 is a copy of the Spyderco Lil’ Temp and it’s a little beast. My Ganzo 710 is the smoothest Axis lock I have owned and I own real Benchmades as well.

I have the Ganzo 704 and I am less impressed with it. The Axisnlock is smooth but there is some vertical blade play which I am not happy with. It can be fixed but it would be nice not to have to work on a knife after you get it.

I have had to do mods on about half my Chinese knives to make them work for me better. Most common is having to reduce the side of the grip where your thumb needs to go to depress the liner lock. Many Chinese knives do not recess this area enough.

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FlashPilot wrote:
IMO, Bee/Enlan and Sanrenmu (SRM) knives are made with a higher quality of steel that can be honed to a finer edge and hold it longer. Their build quality is much better, more consistent, better finished and with a far superior factory edge. Ive gifted at least 500+ so Ive had many to compare. Ive gifted all of my Ganzo's. Unless something revolutionary happens to improve them, I wont be buying any more.

 

My Enlan and SRM knives seem to hold an edge a bit better than the Ganzos I've come across as well.

 

My sample size, at around a dozen, is far smaller than yours ! Tongue Out

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Speedsix wrote:
I like Ganzo and Navy. My Navy K-607 is a copy of the Spyderco Lil’ Temp and it’s a little beast. My Ganzo 710 is the smoothest Axis lock I have owned and I own real Benchmades as well.

I have the Ganzo 704 and I am less impressed with it. The Axisnlock is smooth but there is some vertical blade play which I am not happy with. It can be fixed but it would be nice not to have to work on a knife after you get it.

I have had to do mods on about half my Chinese knives to make them work for me better. Most common is having to reduce the side of the grip where your thumb needs to go to depress the liner lock. Many Chinese knives do not recess this area enough.

I’m impressed with the smoothness of my G710 too.

Which version of the G704 do you have? The early ones with the thinner 3.7mm blade came with some vertical blade play. My newer model with the 4.0 mm thick blade is rock solid.

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My Ganzo 710 is the smoothest Axis lock I have owned and I own real Benchmades as well.

It is probably an exception, a lucky defect, because all Ganzo knives with axis-lock are known to have “very” stiff omega springs to the point that the axis-lock can’t be released with one thumb and it is still stiff with 2 thumbs. It is true for my G704 and G710. Contrary to the Benchmade axis-lock that can be released with 1 thumb.
My BM 746 mini onslaught was (out of the box) “uber” smooth to open/close and the axis-lock release was (and is still) perfect, soft but secure.

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I have the Ganzo 704 and I am less impressed with it. The Axisnlock is smooth but there is some vertical blade play which I am not happy with. It can be fixed but it would be nice not to have to work on a knife after you get it.

Is it the first version with the brand name engraved on the top of the blade (that can be seen “knife closed”) or the revision with the brand name engraved at the bottom of the blade ?
Except for a factory defect, the vertical blade play was fixed with the revision.
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Well. Some toughts:

1) I have SRM, Enlan, Bee and Ganzo knives. From ganzo i have only the g710 and it’s incredible smooth, however i have the enlan el04 and the axis system is much more… mmm unpleasent to use but however again has more size of the blade on the lock and for me it’s more safe the el04 than the g710 (less blade size on the axis lock).

2) If the ganzos are really 440C steel and it holds an edge worse than the enlans: a) It isn’t true that it has 440C b) The heat treatment must be bad c) And somebody says that in China there isn’t 440C steel really, and they call 440C to the 9CR14MOV (still better than the 8CR13Mov)

3) SRM seems to be toys for the knife size for me, they can make bigger knifes.

I don’t know… but i like the Ganzo G711 and G707, and thr G704 but i only have the G710.

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I couldn’t resist so I took my dremel and widened the cut-out on the handle of my G711:

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I think my next folder is going to be Ganzo g711 or g704 or g707…

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This one kinda moves me. Shocked http://www.ebay.com/itm/180790623848?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid...

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Before you make your final decision check out these new Ganzo models! Smile

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WOW!!!!! I like very much the g712, what a pointy blade!.Mmm it remembers me to the espada from cold steel,the handle too.By the way the handle of 712 seems to be very good and grippy.

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That 713 looks nice! I want to buy it but I am a bit afraid and reluctant of the chinese knives closing on my hands (Had a close call once) How is the quality and workmanship of those knives compared to say a Benchmade or a Mcusta? Or is it more like a kershaw?

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I almost was thinking to purchase the ganzo g712 but i dude about its thin blade (only a little part has 4mm) and the thin and weak point (but at the same time i love it). I like very much the g711 for its flat and more strong blade. I prefer the handle of 712 about the handle of the 711. And the old 704, well, i have in my wish list from some time, i like its blade shape.

In general i don’t like the ganzo’s axis lock (i have the g710) due to the lockbar doesn’t engage very well on the top blade (i said before a prefer the enlan’s axis lock).

I don’t know, i only know i’m going to buy one of the 3 models (g704, g711 or g712). Have you tested the three models? I know that isti have the 704 and 711 and he is waiting the 712 (i don’t want the 713 because i have tons of those blade shapes). I saw a youtube rusian video about the g712 but i don’t understand it.

By the way i’m going to buy a mora knife too, i must test it for seeing if it is as good as people says.

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I have a 712. Very sharp with a little strop work but be careful. Easy to cut yourself.

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A lot of Chinese-produced knives are marked “440c,”
but AFAIK there is no 440c in China.

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G712 looks interesting, like a pocket scimitar.

Currently own a G704 and the ergonomics are excellent (copied from a HK/ Mike Snody design), andthe blade is super thick and the knife is quite solid overall. The only issue I have is that the axis lock pulls back too far to clear the blade , and the springs on mine are apparently a little soft in that it doesn’t have the same satisfying and solid click as the SRM763. No blade play on mine either. As much as I like it, it sits in a drawer while the EL-01 is my go-to knife for larger knife tasks

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I have bought the ganzo g704 now to the end, and yes, and the ergonomics are near to perfect. But, it is small overall. The blade shape remembers me to the enlan el03 but, this enlan that i own shows better than the ganzo and more beautiful (and bigger!!!). Solid lock up and good sharpness, it’s a good knife but a bit small.

I have seen the new ganzo g714 and g715 but i prefer the g711 and g712 (that i haven’t Sad ).

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hatman wrote:
A lot of Chinese-produced knives are marked “440c,” but AFAIK there is no 440c in China.

It’s Chinese 9Cr18Mo, which is pretty close to the 440C formulation.

I like it, possibly my favourite steel.

It’s a pity that I’ve only seen it on knives that are copies of Western premium knives. Most original knives from Sanrenmu and Enlan use 8Cr13Mov which is, it must be said, a good budget steel (comparable to AUS8, with better corrosion resistance) but still a budget steel. I’m considering an Enlan EL08 though, 9Cr13Mov in a big framelock. Smile

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