Shadow SC600 vs UF-T50 -- Winners Announced -- The Lights Are Done!!!!!!!

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well, lets go for zebra Smile

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I’ll bet on the UF-T50.

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JohnnyMac wrote:

I’m going with the T50 for the win.  The extra mass is going to protect it.  The only loser in this will just like MRsDNF said:

“Neither light will win as they will not be restorable. There will be two losers in this giveaway. Second loser first will be the winner and the first loser second will be Old-Lumens who has the job of the restoration. This should be good for a laugh. Thanks guys.”

A complete waste of a Zebralight as O-L will have a heck of a time getting it to work again (if at all) after it has died.  At least the T50 has a chance of being repaired and in the end, the one that is running when all is said and done will be the real winner and that will be the T50.


I beg to differ. Am on test number five and already feel that what I’ve learned so far was worth what both lights cost. Not sure I understand why you don’t think it’s useful to know how these two lights perform (or not) under harsh conditions?

As for Old-Lumens, would like to clarify that he’ll restore/rebuild/refurbish these lights in whatever way he sees fit, with whatever artistic and technical license he wants to take. So there’s a lot of leeway and based on what I’ve seen of his work, my money’s on him.

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my vote goes for the T50.

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TheShadow wrote:
JohnnyMac wrote:

I'm going with the T50 for the win.  The extra mass is going to protect it.  The only loser in this will just like MRsDNF said:

"Neither light will win as they will not be restorable. There will be two losers in this giveaway. Second loser first will be the winner and the first loser second will be Old-Lumens who has the job of the restoration. This should be good for a laugh. Thanks guys."

A complete waste of a Zebralight as O-L will have a heck of a time getting it to work again (if at all) after it has died.  At least the T50 has a chance of being repaired and in the end, the one that is running when all is said and done will be the real winner and that will be the T50.

I beg to differ. Am on test number five and already feel that what I've learned so far was worth what both lights cost. Not sure I understand why you don't think it's useful to know how these two lights perform (or not) under harsh conditions? As for Old-Lumens, would like to clarify that he'll restore/rebuild/refurbish these lights in whatever way he sees fit, with whatever artistic and technical license he wants to take. So there's a lot of leeway and given what I've seen of his work, my money's on him.
Oh I think it's great to see how they perform under harsh conditions.  It's just that ZL's are notoriously difficult to work on.  I think he is going to be testing his skills if he has to replace the driver on that puppy.  I think the UF-T50 will be much easier to work on and get back into working order.  Thicker material on the T50 will make it easier for him to clean up or grind out gouges and nicks in the body and allow for more artistic license.  ZL bodies are crazy thin and will be tougher to clean up damage to the body.

Once said and done, I'd rather have a shiny new SC600  working as intended, knowing that it'd withstand anything I'd put it through.  It just hurts to see it abused more than I'd ever put it through just for poops & chuckles.  Silly

Either way I eagerly await the outcome of the tests and rebuilds.  This is fun!  :bigsmile:

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I’m saying Zebralight for the win

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Zebralight SC600 will win.

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vote for zebra light. Would think is more oilproof then the TF.
Definatly watching.

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TheShadow wrote:

Torture tests and restoration will be performed as follows and documented in this thread:

  • The Shadow — freeze, submerge and boil.
  • scaru — extended runtime and drop tests.
  • mkett39 — drag behind vehicle, drop in bucket of motor oil, run over with tractor trailer.
  • Old-Lumens — restore lights in whatever creative way he sees fit; obviously these will become one-of-a-kind collectors items.

 

Well, if either of the lights make it to the third round, then mkett39 should take care of them for good. Running over a thin wall light with a tractor trailer should render the light a total loss. There's a difference between a repair and trash can. I know the difference and I will doing the final disposition. If they are salvageable, then they will be fixed as good as possible, but if the lights have been mashed out of shape or flat as a pancake, they will see the pit of never ending darkness (that's what I threaten my flashlights with, when they don't want to cooperate).Tongue Out If at any time the batteries in these lights melt down, blow up or leak all over, then don't bother to send them on to me. I won't touch a Li-ion if it has leaked into the light. Sorry, but Lithium leakage is something I will not play with.  Other than that, I will do my very best if there is anything left to salvage.

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TheShadow...run them hot then drop them into a bucket of cold water.  If they remain watertight I'd be truly impressed with either. Wink Silly

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i choose zebra!

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Zebralight SC600 except for being run over by a tractor trailer.

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I can see BOTH lights making through the first and second rounds, a little bruised maybe, but O-L can wave his magic wand and they WILL work.

The third test .... Ohh the carnage, ..... not going to be pretty

I honestly don'y think either will make it out ALIVE, since I have to chose one .............

I'm hoping the UF-T50 will make it

This will be very interesting, informative and another ingenious BLF contest.  

VERY SPECIAL THANKS to the Executioners and to the Doctor of Illumination. (O-L, I hope there is something left to rebuild)

  • The Shadow — freeze, submerge and boil.
  • scaru — extended runtime and drop tests.
  • mkett39 — drag behind vehicle, drop in bucket of motor oil, run over with tractor trailer.
  • Old-Lumens — restore lights in whatever creative way he sees fit; obviously these will become one-of-a-kind collectors items.
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I’m gonna go with the Zebralight based on quality of construction. Gotta love mkett39’s tests.

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UF-t50 gonna get’er done

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I will take a risk and call it UF-T50 since I have had one failed H51 but 0 failed UF´s so far 8)
If I should foresee something, I would say that ZL´s driver gives up.

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Old-Lumens wrote:
 If at any time the batteries in these lights melt down, blow up or leak all over, then don't bother to send them on to me. I won't touch a Li-ion if it has leaked into the light. Sorry, but Lithium leakage is something I will not play with.  Other than that, I will do my very best if there is anything left to salvage.

Li-ions don't leak, they just explode. Silly 

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scaru wrote:
Old-Lumens wrote:
 If at any time the batteries in these lights melt down, blow up or leak all over, then don't bother to send them on to me. I won't touch a Li-ion if it has leaked into the light. Sorry, but Lithium leakage is something I will not play with.  Other than that, I will do my very best if there is anything left to salvage.
Li-ions don't leak, they just explode. Silly 

Just remember we need a video of the actual explosion or it didn't happen.Tongue Out

 

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Old-Lumens wrote:

Well, if either of the lights make it to the third round, then mkett39 should take care of them for good. Running over a thin wall light with a tractor trailer should render the light a total loss. There’s a difference between a repair and trash can. I know the difference and I will doing the final disposition. If they are salvageable, then they will be fixed as good as possible, but if the lights have been mashed out of shape or flat as a pancake, they will see the pit of never ending darkness (that’s what I threaten my flashlights with, when they don’t want to cooperate).Tongue Out If at any time the batteries in these lights melt down, blow up or leak all over, then don’t bother to send them on to me. I won’t touch a Li-ion if it has leaked into the light. Sorry, but Lithium leakage is something I will not play with.  Other than that, I will do my very best if there is anything left to salvage.


Of course, the idea is to push and test these, not doom them to the pit of never ending darkness. Before this thread even went up, mkett39 suggested running them over on a surface that has some give Wink Here’s an example of that with a steamroller: http://youtu.be/km_rodQCs2M?t=1m17s Trust us :Evil:
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Ultrafire for me…Mine feels a good solid light and i reckon it should last well

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Shadow Update:

Tests performed so far: bury in snowbank overnight, leave lit underwater in basement sump for one hour, wash with laundry in washing machine twice, on heavy cycle both times, dry in dryer for 40 minutes, bake in oven at 200 degrees F for one hour. Both lights survived but one clearly did better than the other — so far, that is! But which one?

Remaining tests: freeze overnight (lit) in blocks of ice, defrost and boil with eggs for breakfast. Then off to scaru!

Stay tuned — details and pictures will be posted just after the giveaway closes, probably on Friday.

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TheShadow wrote:
Shadow Update:

Remaining tests: freeze overnight (lit) in blocks of ice, defrost and boil with eggs for breakfast. Then off to scaru!

Stay tuned — details and pictures will be posted just after the giveaway closes, probably on Friday.

I’m assuming you will take the battery out, but it’s still dangerous. The flashlight is basically a sealed container, with no way to let air escape. When you reach boiling temperatures, the cylinder may vent violently (small explosion) sending boiling water everywhere.
Just a friendly warning. I’ve been scalded by boiling water before… not fun.

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relic38 wrote:

I’m assuming you will take the battery out, but it’s still dangerous. The flashlight is basically a sealed container, with no way to let air escape. When you reach boiling temperatures, the cylinder may vent violently (small explosion) sending boiling water everywhere.
Just a friendly warning. I’ve been scalded by boiling water before… not fun.

Roger that.
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Wow! Sounds like they have already endured a heavy amount of abuse! Can’t wait to see the results and photos!!!

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Zebralight SC600 will win. Thanks a lot ! ! !

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I though scaru was the resident expert on washing machine and drier tests?

 

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Tallied up votes so far:
Zebralight SC600: 58 votes
Ultrafire T-50: 39 votes

Still pretty close.

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JohnnyMac wrote:

TheShadow…run them hot then drop them into a bucket of cold water.  If they remain watertight I’d be truly impressed with either. Wink Silly


After liberating them from solid blocks of ice from being frozen overnight I boiled them with two eggs, then dumped the boiling water out and immediately filled the pot with cold water. Plenty of pics to follow after the giveaway closes. Smile
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My tests are done and have mailed to scaru. Have some jaw dropping pics to post once this closes. Shocked

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