Shadow SC600 vs UF-T50 -- Winners Announced -- The Lights Are Done!!!!!!!

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What about making them into one mode lights? No switch, just turn on or off using the tail cap? Fill the switch hole with epoxy or something? Is a QTC pill possible?

The UF could be a mule, no reflector. Just some thoughts.

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What makes more sense to me is to make new lights out of these not repair as original.

One mode, direct drive twisty with lockout.
The Old-Lumens way, that will make them special.
(that is what i thought would happen when this giveaway/torture test started)

Yes, I know, the buttons will just be there doing nothing.

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Mount on a base with all the guts around. Shove a candle in each one. Good ryntimes but low output. No pwm but subject to flickering

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millerman wrote:
Mount on a base with all the guts around. Shove a candle in each one. Good ryntimes but low output. No pwm but subject to flickering

Are you one of themTongue Out

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JohnnyMac wrote:

Zebralight is supposed to have a good warranty.  Send our subject to them with a simple note stating, “It just stopped working the other day.  I’m not sure what happened or why”.

I’d love to see their reply. LOL!


Yes, it would be awesome to see their reply.

If they replace it we can run a fund drive to pay them back. Plus every 1 dollar gives the donor 1 chance to win it.

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Thanks Justin for your thorough assessment. I didn’t realize they were this bad and am thinking it doesn’t make sense to do much with them, except maybe what kbark (#276) and Johm (#277) suggested. Any other brilliant ideas anyone? Smile

P.S. Torture testing Zebralight’s warranty seems like another interesting possibility!

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http://budgetlightforum.com/sites/all/modules/smileys/packs/Roving/quest...

I don’t know of whom you speak ?http://budgetlightforum.com/sites/all/modules/smileys/packs/Roving/bigsm...

ohhh maybe because it would be candle – power ? and this is a forum …….

no I’m not one of them if that’s what we are talking about but I guess each would have 1 candle power

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Perhaps contact the manufacturers, show them this thread, let them know it’s for a good cause. Develop some public awareness with the manufacturers help. Then auction them off for charity ?

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TheShadow wrote:
Thanks Justin for your thorough assessment. I didn't realize they were this bad and am thinking it doesn't make sense to do much with them, except maybe what kbark (#276) and Johm (#277) suggested. Any other brilliant ideas anyone? Smile P.S. Torture testing Zebralight's warranty seems like another interesting possibility!

+1 

This has been very informative thread, with over 4500 reads, 275+ replies.

The "testing" applied to both lights would be considered "extreme" in some tests, other "tests" I think would be considered Research and Development (the manufacturers should do, but do they?)  I'd like to see what (if any) warranty consideration would be given to the Zebra.

The Backbone of any corporation, How do they Take Care of a Customer, AFTER the SALE ?.  Like Leatherman multitools, guaranteed to work or they repair/replace to make and keep the customer HAPPY. 

Justin has given his medical opinion and thorough assessment, while he has worked some amazing miracles, he must have something to work with, my opinion is,  Do Not Resuscitate.

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Halo… wrote:

Plus every 1 dollar gives the donor 1 chance to win it.
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Then auction them off for charity ?

Remember, this is already a giveaway (see OP) and I’ve already selected the winners, just haven’t announced yet because the (rebuild or not) fate of these isn’t settled. That means, if they’re restored or replaced they’d go to those winners. If not, then I’ll give the winners their choice of what’s left of these or new lights and if they want new lights, will do a separate drawing for these remnants.
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I would love to see what the Zebralight CS would say and/or do if you sent the light in ...

What I do

 

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I have contacted Zebra light. I have not heard back yet. I did not contact UF, since they are overseas and even if they wanted to send parts, it would take weeks, since the Chinese new years is just about upon us.

I could southern engineer them, if that's the consensus. I just think the Zebra light is a nice light and I would like to put it back stock. The UF, I don't care. That light is a cheap copy and to me, it doesn't matter if it turns out something else. I can do something. It just won't be pretty, but you know what? That was the whole point of this thing, to make what I can out of them, so I will, even if they end up being candle holders.Tongue Out

Just give me a few days. I will know how it is going by Monday. I need the week end to think things out.

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Shipping from China usually takes 2-3 weeks, thats not too much.^^

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If Zebralight customer service doesn’t pan out…

Another vote for using them as a twisty. Tho please don’t permanently seal the switch. Silicone sealant should be removable. Give the future owner the ability to try other mods so the lights can have a continuing journey! Perhaps they will be passed around like BLF mascots!
Direct drive, AMC7135 single mode or maybe 8* AMC7135 low,med,high . If the twisty is easy enough for mode cycling.

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Looks like nobody here is even considering the Uzi test. That would’ve been kinda neat to film. Sad

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Well, we tried external pressure with the two of them.  I say replace the battery in each with an M80, run the fuse out of the switch holes, and test them for internal pressure resistance.  >)

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Turn the T50 into a single mode mule, the SC600 should try and get warranty service from ZL.

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I could southern engineer them, if that’s the consensus…and to me, it doesn’t matter if it turns out something else. I can do something. It just won’t be pretty, but you know what? That was the whole point of this thing, to make what I can out of them, so I will, even if they end up being candle holders.

That’s pretty inspiring….to apply this ‘never-say-die’ spirit in life as well as lights!

“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).

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I can’t wait to hear zebralight’s response….

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JohnnyMac wrote:

Zebralight is supposed to have a good warranty.  Send our subject to them with a simple note stating, “It just stopped working the other day.  I’m not sure what happened or why”.

I’d love to see their reply. LOL!


i think that is a great idea… we are testing the limits of these lights. after all, if theres a warranty, how far will that warranty go???
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And if they do fix it, I think we know what to do with it. :Evil: Just need to make sure it comes from a different address each time. And who ever has it when they refuse to warrant it keeps it. Silly 

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lol. so its kind of like russian roulette. we each take our turn, who ever bites the bullet, errrr, wins?

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I have contacted Zebra light. I have not heard back yet. I did not contact UF, since they are overseas and even if they wanted to send parts, it would take weeks, since the Chinese new years is just about upon us.

I could southern engineer them, if that’s the consensus. I just think the Zebra light is a nice light and I would like to put it back stock. The UF, I don’t care. That light is a cheap copy and to me, it doesn’t matter if it turns out something else. I can do something. It just won’t be pretty, but you know what? That was the whole point of this thing, to make what I can out of them, so I will, even if they end up being candle holders.Tongue Out

Just give me a few days. I will know how it is going by Monday. I need the week end to think things out.

Weld ‘em up into a steampunk hybrid !

Would like to see it as a BLF “perpetual trophy” light !

"In the land of the blond the one eyed man is king."

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I am going to start with the UF T50 first. I have decided it will have a TIR optic with an 8x7135 driver and the tail cap will be the switch (twisty).

ufb1

I have tested the led. It works. The TIR is a gift from a member here and it is 26mm, but it is not for an XM-L. We will see if it will produce a good beam, or a terrible beam.

I have a lot to do, so this is just a teaser, naturally.Wink

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01-25-2013

I had time to do a little today. Just enough to make sure the stack up will work.

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First thing was to remove the locating tab from the optic, with files.

 

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But the optic didn't sit down in well and the stack height was too short, so I cut the old reflector,

 

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and used it as a base and support for the optic.

 

12b

The optic sits in the reflector and it is supported.

 

12c

The head is together and the optic fits well in the bezel, (after a little sanding around the outer edge of the optic).

 

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The base of the pill seats exactly where it did before.

 

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But that hollow pill does not work for me, so Copper it is, to fill it in.

 

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I will use an 8x7135 driver with H/M/L modes.

 

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That darned pill still has no contact with the head, so even with the copper inside, it will heat up fast.

 

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I think I can use some copper sheet to fill in the gap between the pill and the head and help with the heat problem.

 

That's all for now...

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01-26-2013

The O-L paint and body shop is open today.

pbs1

I was at the point where I had to do something with the UF, as far as the exterior, so I can finish the guts, so I decided I might as well paint both of them today.

 

pbs2

The UF T50 gets a black with copper flake coating, followed by clearcoat.

 

pbs3

The SC600 gets the rough Brown coating, followed by clearcoat.

The incandescent lights are my oven. Man I hope I never have to give up incans, or my body shop will be closed for good.

That's all for now. It will take 48 to 72 hours, before I can work on either light any more.

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01-27-2013

Remember how I said 48 to 72 hours. I lied to you! Tongue Out

 

za1

The pill is all done and in place. It has an 8x7135 driver with three modes H/M/L.

 

za2

Here's the TIR optic. The bezel is not round any more, but it is what it is.

 

za3

Tail Cap. This light is now a Twisty!

 

za4

Yep, since the paint has Copper flake in it, I used a Copper round to cover the original switch hole.

 

za5

It's hard to show the copper in the paint, but in the sun, it sparkles.

 

 

 

 

OH, here's a little Bonus!

The SC600 is DONE!

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The head.

 

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The Tail Cap. This light is also a Twisty now!

 

sa3

 

sa4

I used a Brass round on this one. I think it matches the paint better.

I didn't do any build photos, because all I did was put in an 8x7135 driver. The led sits in the head, on a flat, so there's no pill and nothing to really show. I did mess up though. This driver has the stock five modes. Sorry 'bout that, but I ain't gonna take that sucker apart ever again!

 

That's all Folks. I would love to do beam shots, but I do not have an 18650. I just can't do them by trying to hold 3AA cells up to the light, while taking photos.  

 

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nice upgrqade the TIR, i hope it will work fine.

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More photos of the UF build updated in POST # 299

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Thank you Old-Lumens for your first flashlight aid and the pictures.

I think the Zebralight service would laugh about the pictures of the SC600 or ask themselves: How can they do this torture to the small flashlight.

Do you told them, what are the reasons for the actual conditions?

Light up the darkness.

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Do you told them, what are the reasons for the actual conditions?
I told them we were a bunch of certifiable nut jobs on BLF and we had nothing better to do at the moment, than to torture inanimate objects.Wink

I told them about the thread and gave the link to it. No reply so far. They are probably still laughing.

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lol. you should have said you were just hiking a trail at the local high school and it dropped out of your pocket Silly
should be interesting to see the response

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Buwuve wrote:
Do you told them, what are the reasons for the actual conditions?
I told them we were a bunch of certifiable nut jobs on BLF and we had nothing better to do at the moment, than to torture inanimate objects.Wink

I told them about the thread and gave the link to it. No reply so far. They are probably still shocked, face palming and swearing.

fixed it for you Silly

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