Trustfire Tr-3T6 Vs. J18. Is J18 worth the difference in price? (both from DX)

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Trustfire Tr-3T6 Vs. J18. Is J18 worth the difference in price? (both from DX)

Im getting my first “real” flashlight. It’s standing between those two after a lot of research. Both from DX.

- Trustfire Tr-3T6 XM-L T6 2500lm/3800lm (actual 1650lm) $33,5
- Trustfire Tr-J18 XM-L T6 8000lm (actual 4000lm) $65,9

Is J18 worth the difference in price? In the product info it says the runtime is better on the J18. How is that?

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For a first light… The TR-3T6 is a awesome light. ( My first one )

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I would buy the 3T6, it is driven harder and their are several mods posted in this forum. I have listed a couple of options from Lightmalls:

http://www.lightmalls.com/trustfire-tr-3t6-cree-xm-l-3-t6-3800lm-high-br...

http://www.lightmalls.com/8-4v-3000mah-5-mode-led-flashlight-circuit-boa...

http://www.lightmalls.com/solarstorm-5-t6-5t6-5xcree-xm-l-t6-4000-lumen-...

The last one is killer.

The Grand daddy:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/TrustFire-Exclusive-Online-Facto...SST-90-LED-2300LM-Powerful-Superbright-Flashlight-Set-Includes-Bat/915467_668689419.html

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Dale wrote:
For a first light… The TR-3T6 is a awesome light. ( My first one )

Yeah, but i dont want to “get used to it” too fast and then want to buy the J18 Silly Thats whay im asking if the J18 really is that much better because it costs twice as much as the 3t6? Do you get much more light from the J18?

Nice custom of the 3T6 by the way Smile

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Flomotion wrote:
I would buy the 3T6, it is driven harder and their are several mods posted in this forum. I have listed a couple of options from Lightmalls:

http://www.lightmalls.com/trustfire-tr-3t6-cree-xm-l-3-t6-3800lm-high-br...

http://www.lightmalls.com/8-4v-3000mah-5-mode-led-flashlight-circuit-boa...

http://www.lightmalls.com/solarstorm-5-t6-5t6-5xcree-xm-l-t6-4000-lumen-...

The last one is killer.

The Grand daddy:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/TrustFire-Exclusive-Online-Facto...SST-90-LED-2300LM-Powerful-Superbright-Flashlight-Set-Includes-Bat/915467_668689419.html

Nice! Thanks Smile

The SST-90 is more of a thrower, but powerful yes. Om looking for more a spreader, that throws the light pretty far Silly

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How about a SkyRay King (or FandyFire UV-S5 version).  4 parallel 18650's are safer than Li-Ions in series.  Tremendous flood output.  Most lumens per dollar you can get on a budget I believe.  At FastTech use coupon code "BLF" for another 5% off.  Review here.

Personally I am thinking either a King and/or the Trustfire TR-J12 (5xXM-L) running on 4 C NiMh cells.  Not sure which to get first.

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IMO..Trust fire TR-J18 is a lot brighter for the money.
it’s even brighter than my sky ray king Big Smile
here some shot to help you make the decision Wink
TR-J18 on the left vs Sky Ray king on the right
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I have a real hankering for one of these

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/shadow-sl3-triple-xml-u2-1500lumens-26650-fl...

But I’m odd in that I’m not taken with the king tbh.

Can I ask why your set on dx? There are other venders for both the 3t6 and the j18 (i’m not sure but fasttech carries both), you’d probably get the light quicker and possibly cheaper, but I’m not sure on that.

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gords1001 wrote:
But I'm odd in that I'm not taken with the king tbh.

Well, at least you admit it Laughing

I too like that Shadow, and like the 3 XM-L on a single 26650.  I'd really prefer 3 XM-L's on 3 parallel 18650's instead of the King's 4, however that Black Shadow Darth is so much money!  I've wondered about getting a TR-3T6, but figured I would just skip it and move up.

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I am alway surprised how the 3T6 hangs “in there” with the J18. The 3T6 is pretty impressive, and the J18 does “light up” the general area. Of course the 3T6 only takes up to 3,18650s and the J18 will take 3, 18650s with its included 2cell plus 1cell adapter; also, takes 26650s x3, that is why the longer run time, because the 26650s are 4000ma+. I would consider selling my J18, only has less than 1 hour run time, and I have plenty of multi-leds: pm me if interested.

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gords1001 wrote:
But I’m odd in that I’m not taken with the king tbh.

Well, at least you admit it Laughing

I too like that Shadow, and like the 3 XM-L on a single 26650.  I’d really prefer 3 XM-L’s on 3 parallel 18650’s instead of the King’s 4, however that Black Shadow Darth is so much money!  I’ve wondered about getting a TR-3T6, but figured I would just skip it and move up.

-Garry

Cheeky sod! :bigsmile: yeah, that sl3 is a real nice looker, and I get the impression quite throwy too.

Just matspl to suss the issue with his mod now. Or just order one and do it, deal with the issues later…

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same here flo… way.. too many for me too my favorite one is currently Trustfire 9XT6 as it put a tremendous amount of light..

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gords1001 wrote:
I have a real hankering for one of these http://www.intl-outdoor.com/shadow-sl3-triple-xml-u2-1500lumens-26650-fl...

But I’m odd in that I’m not taken with the king tbh.

Can I ask why your set on dx? There are other venders for both the 3t6 and the j18 (i’m not sure but fasttech carries both), you’d probably get the light quicker and possibly cheaper, but I’m not sure on that.

Im set on DX because i live in Europe, and they have nice prices and free shipping. If i was to order from USA, the shipping would be between 10-30 bucks i guess, depends on the weight.

If thes’s a vendor in USA with free shipping and better prices than DX, let me know Smile

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Flomotion wrote:
Of course the 3T6 only takes up to 3,18650s and the J18 will take 3, 18650s with its included 2cell plus 1cell adapter; also, takes 26650s x3, that is why the longer run time, because the 26650s are 4000ma+.

How can J18 take more batteries than 3t6 when its two inches shorter? Included 2cell plus 1cell adapter, what does that mean Silly ?
And J18 has 7 leds, 3t6 has 3. I was thinking that more leds consumes more power? Therefore bigger batteries (26650) to compensate so that it would last as long as the 3t6..?

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Check the link, its free shipping and a good store, then notice my location, I’m not quite in Europe, but close enough Wink

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The “real” J18 come with an extention, tube; that is, it can be configured in the 2/3 cell mode. If the one you are looking at has only the 2 cell tube, I would not buy it, at all.

http://www.lightmalls.com/trustfire-tr-j18-7xt6-7-cree-xm-l-t6-8000lm-5-...

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It comes with an extention tube Smile Both 3t6 and j18 can holster three batteries, just that j18 can holster bigger..?

I was just thinking that a light with 7 leds would use twice as much power as a light with 3 leds because it has twice as many leds? So if i would run the 3t6 with 3000mAh batteries, i would have to run the J18 with 6000mAh batteries to make its runtime the same. And even bigger batteries to make the runtime longer then xt6.. I just dont understand how j18 can have longer runtime Silly

However, if i want the one with longer runtime, i’d go for J18?

Appreciate the answers Smile Im learning Glasses

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The j18’s emitters aren’t driven as hard so are more efficient, plus the best 18650 capacity you can get is 3400mah, good 26650’s are 4000mah.

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gords1001 wrote:
The j18’s emitters aren’t driven as hard so are more efficient, plus the best 18650 capacity you can get is 3400mah, good 26650’s are 4000mah.

Aha, i see Smile Its a hard choise i guess.. More light and runtime, more expencive. A little less light and runtime, a bit cheaper.
I guess my mind goes against the 3t6 for this time due to my budget Smile

Thank you guys for your insight and pictures. Appreciate it Smile

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Flomotion wrote:
Fasttech use code BLF for 5% off:

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10000664/1059703-trustfire-tr-j18-...

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10000947/1079200-trustfire-tr-3t6-...

Good Luck…

Wow, they have a little cheaper prices than DX, plus 5% discount! Definetily going to make an order there.

Thanks Smile

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I think i want the TR-J18 as well thanks for the link

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You are welcome. Most BLF members support Fasttech, and are highly rated. I do own both the both the TR-J18 and the TR-3T6. The J18 does really light up and area. I was at a reck, and lit up the area while the Police and Firemen arrived. The 3T6 is a light that most members own, because of the cost vs performance. The Sky Ray King is a nice light, but it is more expensive, and there are a lot of fakes. Fasttech does sell the real item, and if they did not, BLF members would quickly report it. I wish both of you luck, and lots of fun with torches. Everyone here will be willing to help you, just ask…

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Flomotion wrote:
I am alway surprised how the 3T6 hangs “in there” with the J18. The 3T6 is pretty impressive, and the J18 does “light up” the general area. Of course the 3T6 only takes up to 3,18650s and the J18 will take 3, 18650s with its included 2cell plus 1cell adapter; also, takes 26650s x3, that is why the longer run time, because the 26650s are 4000ma+. I would consider selling my J18, only has less than 1 hour run time, and I have plenty of multi-leds: pm me if interested.

Interesting that you say that, as I’ve got both the 3T6 and J18 as well. Stock drivers put out (on mine) 4.5A and 8.8A respectively, and at best the 3T6 on high is around the same as medium on the J18. Are you referring to output after modding? You should get much more runtime on the J18 off 3 26650’s than 1 hour.

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Pleiku, Kon Tum (Fire Base 5) , Da Lat (Tiger Falls), Ban Me Thuot. I love the terraces in Da Lat, and the orchards. Oh, Tiger Falls so cool. I couldn’t believe the Yellow Pine trees and the red clay ground, just beautiful. I loved a girl in Ban Me Thuot, so beautiful in all white, but I was so young, and dumb, and a soldier. I could have a child there, that I would never have known, have felt so bad for years, just didn’t know any better. But I paid a tall price, in and out of Army hospitals, most of my life. My best friend Tuy Nguyen Van Tuc, think of him often, last saw him in the Central Highlands, on a small FB. We were the same age, he went to High school in Nha Trang. Have never forgotten…and Chi Duc Thanh… so long ago…

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Pleiku, Kon Tum (Fire Base 5) , Da Lat (Tiger Falls), Ban Me Thuot. I love the terraces in Da Lat, and the orchards. Oh, Tiger Falls so cool. I couldn’t believe the Yellow Pine trees and the red clay ground, just beautiful. I loved a girl in Ban Me Thuot, so beautiful in all white, but I was so young, and dumb, and a soldier. I could have a child there, that I would never have known, have felt so bad for years, just didn’t know any better. But I paid a tall price, in and out of Army hospitals, most of my life. My best friend Tuy Nguyen Van Tuc, think of him often, last saw him in the Central Highlands, on a small FB. We were the same age, he went to High school in Nha Trang. Have never forgotten…and Chi Duc Thanh… so long ago…

Yeah that’s the area I’m living in. I’m based in Pleiku until May and have spent quite a few weekends in Kon Tum. Drove to Buon Ma Thout and through Dalat bout a year ago from Saigon. Small world.