Booting Puppy Linux on a MK-802

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Booting Puppy Linux on a MK-802

This is a continuation of my previous thread here. 

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/17920

My basic plan is to install some form of linux, most likely puppy linux, and then use that to connect to the printer. I will then install chromium and then use the share printers function to link them to my google account. 

So I have two of the MK-802s in hand and now I'm trying to figure out how to get linux on them. I have heard that both Lubuntu and Puppy Linux should work on these things and I have tried both by burning the iso to a micro sd card, but both times it just booted up into the normal android 4.0 OS. 

Anyone have any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?

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Did you see this page:

Ubuntu Linux on MK-802

You said you used an ISO, could it have been a standard x86 boot ISO, instead of one for MK-802 architecture? I don’t have one yet, but I’ve been thinking of getting one to play with. I’m subscribing to see how you do with it.

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rivet62 wrote:
Did you see this page: "Ubuntu Linux on MK-802":http://liliputing.com/2012/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-linux-on-the-mk802-74-pc... You said you used an ISO, could it have been a standard x86 boot ISO, instead of one for MK-802 architecture? I don't have one yet, but I've been thinking of getting one to play with. I'm subscribing to see how you do with it.

I'm pretty sure it was one meant for the A10 chip, but I'm downloading the one from that article now to try. 

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The author of that page said that he had to dink with his a bit… removing and re-inserting the micro SD card, power cycling the MK-802, etc. before it successfully booted into Ubuntu. Odd.

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This version is meant for the A10 SoC and therefore for the version 1 of the MK802, which SoC do you have?

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I believe you will find a detailed guide here.
I have already ordered a MK802 IIIS and I can’t wait.

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zeremefico wrote:
I believe you will find a detailed guide "here":http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/index.php. I have already ordered a MK802 IIIS and I can't wait.

I got the MK802 II, and so far I don't see any guides there for linux on that one. Sad

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This might help

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OK this should work. Run Puppy on another machine and then use the installer it has in it. There is an option for all sorts of media. Install it to what you want. Doing that will make that media bootable. If that doesn’t work then someone on this forum will be able to help.

BTW, I love Puppy and it is on, and bootable from, my EDC pendrive.

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Ok, I tested all of the different Lubuntu versions from this article.

https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/1

I'm testing out creating a bootable disk within puppy linux now. 

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Ok, puppy linux is a no go. Sad Anyone have any ideas?

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“Anyone have any ideas?”

The forum I suggested certainly wiil. They’re a great bunch.

And it CAN be done. Here’s Puppy running on an MK802.

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How about dsl (damn small linux)?

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Ok, just tried another build meant specifically for these which also didn't work. Sad I'm gonna register on that forum now and ask. 

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what about picuntu?

btw. I have just received IMITO MX1 last week Smile

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Ok, just posted on that forum asking for help. Smile

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84313

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I just found this page. It may help.

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What kind of evil person boots poor little puppies?

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Just tired Puppi Sap which also didn't work, it just booted straight into android. Sad

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What utility are you using to write the image file to your Micro SD card? If you put the card back into your regular computer, what do see on it?

Here’s my ideas, with what I consider the most likely explanations first:

- problem with writing the image to the card (maybe try a different image writing program)
- corrupted image (check md5sum/sha256sum)
- booting from SD disabled somehow in firmware (?)
- hardware problem with the MK-802 card slot

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One more thought, although this seems unlikely:

I’ve got an older laptop that won’t boot from an SD card bigger than 4GB. I would think that a current device wouldn’t have that problem, but who knows.

Your trials and tribulations remind me of putting Cyanogenmod firmware on my B&N Nook Color, trying to make a cheap tablet. I did finally beat it into submission, but it was a frustrating process.

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rivet62 wrote:
What utility are you using to write the image file to your Micro SD card? If you put the card back into your regular computer, what do see on it? Here's my ideas, with what I consider the most likely explanations first: - problem with writing the image to the card (maybe try a different image writing program) - corrupted image (check md5sum/sha256sum) - booting from SD disabled somehow in firmware (?) - hardware problem with the MK-802 card slot

I have been using Win32ImageWriter which I have used successfully in the past for other things. I know it can boot off of SD as that is how it was made, it checks the SD card slot for a OS first and then if there isn't one it boots into Android. I doubt it is a hardware problem as I can see files/save files to SD cards if I put them in there. I'll try to find another copy of Win32ImageWriter though. 

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Scaru, have you tried unetbootin ?
I’ve done several distros to USB with it.

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give bodhi linux a try.

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Head over to rikomagic. He has lubuntu that is optimised for the mk802. Ran well with the motorola lapdock until my 10 month old got his hands on it. Broke the hdmi connector. :_(

http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=90&sid=fab181ea5241...

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Suncoaster wrote:
Scaru, have you tried unetbootin ? I’ve done several distros to USB with it.

Would be my recommendation too. Works like a charm with any bootable ISO I’ve thrown at it.

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ChimpOnABike wrote:
Suncoaster wrote:
Scaru, have you tried unetbootin ? I’ve done several distros to USB with it.

Would be my recommendation too. Works like a charm with any bootable ISO I’ve thrown at it.

Does that work on an ARM-architecture device? I thought syslinux was x86 only, and unetbootins uses syslinux.

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scaru wrote:

I have been using Win32ImageWriter which I have used successfully in the past for other things. I know it can boot off of SD as that is how it was made, it checks the SD card slot for a OS first and then if there isn’t one it boots into Android. I doubt it is a hardware problem as I can see files/save files to SD cards if I put them in there. I’ll try to find another copy of Win32ImageWriter though. 

OK, let’s forget about problems with the Mk802 itself.

I downloaded one of the images (Puppy for the Mele) and wrote it to an SD card. The resulting card looks like a traditional MBR partitioned hard disk, with two partitions. The first is a 16MB FAT32 partition. It has a few *.bin files, and a uImage file that is probably the Linux kernel. The second partition is 3.7GB formatted as EXT4, and is a Linux root file system (directories /bin, /dev, /etc, /lib, /usr, and so forth).

If you have a Linux system, you could check your card to see if it resembles the above. If you have a Windows system, you would only be able to see the first partition.

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rivet62 wrote:
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I have been using Win32ImageWriter which I have used successfully in the past for other things. I know it can boot off of SD as that is how it was made, it checks the SD card slot for a OS first and then if there isn't one it boots into Android. I doubt it is a hardware problem as I can see files/save files to SD cards if I put them in there. I'll try to find another copy of Win32ImageWriter though. 

OK, let's forget about problems with the Mk802 itself. I downloaded one of the images (Puppy for the Mele) and wrote it to an SD card. The resulting card looks like a traditional MBR partitioned hard disk, with two partitions. The first is a 16MB FAT32 partition. It has a few *.bin files, and a uImage file that is probably the Linux kernel. The second partition is 3.7GB formatted as EXT4, and is a Linux root file system (directories /bin, /dev, /etc, /lib, /usr, and so forth). If you have a Linux system, you could check your card to see if it resembles the above. If you have a Windows system, you would only be able to see the first partition.

Ok, I'm seeing similar files to what you say I should on a PC. If needed I can boot into Linux and tell you what I see. 

rivet62 wrote:
ChimpOnABike wrote:
Suncoaster wrote:
Scaru, have you tried "unetbootin":http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ? I've done several distros to USB with it.
Would be my recommendation too. Works like a charm with any bootable ISO I've thrown at it.
Does that work on an ARM-architecture device? I thought syslinux was x86 only, and unetbootins uses syslinux.

Unetbootin uses an Iso rather than an img I think, but I'll give that a shot after I finish my current attempt. Smile

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Ok, just tried the suggestion from another forum which also didn't work so now Unetbootin is burning a copy of puppy linux onto it. After that I think I will try Lubuntu using Unetbootin. 

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Ok, just tried Puppy Linux when made via Unetbootin, that also did not work. It just booted straight into Android. Testing Lubuntu via Unetbootin right now. 

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