US - Defiant ArmorMax 3D Tactical Flashlight - 3D XML light $29.97 - GET BACK TO HD NOW!!!!

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thanks O-L! i updated the OP with a hot link to your photos

I am picking mine up today… I bought it online and within 15 minutes HD called me saying they have secured one and its ready Smile

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Mines ready for in store pickup!

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You might need a pick up truck! Preferrably with a lift gate! lol

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

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The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Nice pics, OL!  Seems to throw better AND have more spill than the 3C everyone was scrambling for.  Nice!

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FMcamaroZ28 wrote:
Mines ready for in store pickup!

mine too! im going in about 4 hours after work

if i could get my hands on a P bin sst-90 that would be ideal for this… i already have 4x c nimh i use in my vpt3 so i will test to see if they fit with minor modification

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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To me the 3C still outdoes the 3D on all counts. I would be leery of ‘handheld’ beamshots telling the whole story. No offence meant to anyone here doing so but IMO if you’re really going to compare light output, spill, throw, etc., the lights should be fixed and pointed exactly the same onto something immovable like a tripod or what have you. Hotspots for example at those distances just need a tiny bit of variance to throw perceptions off on how things are lit up. Much less spill and flood. IOW I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just quite yet.

The 3C’s larger reflector when all’s said and done still makes the difference. JMO.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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>>>>>To me the 3C still outdoes the 3D on all counts.

Ditto. Tried it last night. Might be my new glass lens in my 3c, but my 3c leaves the 3D in the dust for throwing. Just no comparison.

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cat eyes wrote:
THIS is what i have been looking for..
a bright self defense light to leave in the car

doubles as a barbell

this may give maglite a good slap

wouldn’t that be nice…. to finally have a good light like this from maglite


Yes!
Maglite is missing out on a huge market. It’s infuriating that the American company won’t put out an 8xAA/2D or 12xAA/3D-size XM-L light with a 3” turbohead. Throw in a white diffusing lens with their anti-roll bumper, and they would have no excuse for including the now-obsolete cam-action focus system.

As for this light…I’ll have to wait and see if I’ll pick it up over the 3C.

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Obviously the 3D is going to have a longer runtime just by shear battery horsepower and one could also think that its ‘brightness’ will last longer at x-mount intensity than the 3C hence individual differences in performance at any given moment. But that’s why we also mess around with lithiums more than alkalines here. lol

But like Ubehebe said no comparison really.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Will parts interchange? Maybe a 3C head with 3D body?

ID of the 3D tube?

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jmpaul320 wrote:
FMcamaroZ28 wrote:
Mines ready for in store pickup!

mine too! im going in about 4 hours after work

if i could get my hands on a P bin sst-90 that would be ideal for this… i already have 4x c nimh i use in my vpt3 so i will test to see if they fit with minor modification

I always thought the q bin was top dog in the SST-90 world. Hey, just do a MT-G2 build and make us all happy…

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GottaZoom wrote:
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Photos of the light in taken apart

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Will parts interchange? Maybe a 3C head with 3D body?

ID of the 3D tube?

heads wont interchange, different threads and diameter. Tried last night when i got home with mine. Sad

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nottawhackjob wrote:
To me the 3C still outdoes the 3D on all counts. I would be leery of 'handheld' beamshots telling the whole story. No offence meant to anyone here doing so but IMO if you're really going to compare light output, spill, throw, etc., the lights should be fixed and pointed exactly the same onto something immovable like a tripod or what have you..

Agreed, so take some fixed shots for us, please.Wink

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Wow, this looks great! So whats the consensus, is it a better thrower than the 3C?

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Anyone able to do some light output measurements?
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I’m sure someone here like an Rdfronty can do that well enough though.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Thanks for the pics O-L.

I have to admit, I wasn’t tempted by the 3C – but this one is VERY tempting to buy and hot rod.

But I won’t, for now, due to size.

In the mean time, even though you’ll all think I’m nuts, I will pray that they make a 3xD zoomie w/ 60mm lens of similar quality :bigsmile:

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>>>>Anyone able to do some light output measurements?

Hopefully someone with a light-measuring sphere (or bathroom) will post actual lumen output, but my 3C moirders the 3D in throw, even on a white wall (and tested outside last night). I don’t have the equipment for a real lumen readout. For my eyeball test, 3D had the brand-new defiant batteries with maybe 3 minutes of run time on them; 3C was with only one 18650 (with the spacer mod), a fully charged fasttech unprotected Samsung 2600 pink.

The 18650 spacer mod for the 3C is really simple to do and totally worth it. Lightens up the weight considerably and no more throwaway alkalines! (You can also just screw a 26650 on to the 3C head with the BLF A8 battery tube.)

Haven’t tried anything with the 3D tube yet, but it’s cavernous!

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having some trouble hunting down a ucl for this Sad

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i haven’t found anything yet either. maybe we should ask phil from ebay???

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spd4lifesssc07 wrote:
GottaZoom wrote:
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Photos of the light in taken apart

Will parts interchange? Maybe a 3C head with 3D body?

heads wont interchange, different threads and diameter. Tried last night when i got home with mine. Sad

Thanks! Kinda glad it does not! Smile

ID of the 3D tube?

Sure hope WWEFANS will get back from holiday to his PMs – I wanna inexpensive A8 body!

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spd4lifesssc07 wrote:
i haven’t found anything yet either. maybe we should ask phil from ebay???

i sent him a message

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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GottaZoom wrote:
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Photos of the light in taken apart

Will parts interchange? Maybe a 3C head with 3D body?
heads wont interchange, different threads and diameter. Tried last night when i got home with mine. :(
Thanks! Kinda glad it does not! Smile ID of the 3D tube? Sure hope WWEFANS will get back from holiday to his PMs - I wanna inexpensive A8 body!

ID of the 3D tube? I have not measured, but I can tell you it's the same (within a couple thou), as a Maglite D tube. A maglite switch fits in just like it would fit in a Maglite, with a hint of drag. A Maglite ID is like 34.15mm, if that helps.

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Picked mine up!

Fall resistant to 9m!

Because fully loaded with 3D and the rubber caps

Just a few grams short of the BTU Shocker

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if Arnold Schwarzenegger bought a flashlight… it would be this one

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if Arnold Schwarzenegger bought a flashlight… it would be this one

Ditto for his pal Sly as they both got big hands/wrists with Panerai Ergizianos that could only fit our ankles!

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i wonder if there is anyway to get this driver in this host?

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/5a-3mode-2745v-circuit-board-p-547.html

and maybe run on 3 D nimh for loooooong runtime on low?

or this

http://www.intl-outdoor.com/9a-3mode-5512v-circuit-board-p-561.html

on 3x feilong 32650s? with an sst90?

just an idea

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I snagged two of them at the Home Depot in Richardson, TX at Plano Rd & Buckingham. They were stored on the high boxes above the flashlight section. Dude with the Big Stairs got them down. BTW, they come six to a box, not five.

Both of mine were DOA due to the o-ring problem mentioned in post #19!!! Something tells me this is going to be causing Home Depot a LOT of grief.

Crammed it into the Sphere ‘o Many Mysteries. Using their D batteries:

high: 540 lumens/2.3A
low: 158 lumens/0.6A – PWM 536 Hz
strobe: 7 Hz
cct: 5990K

With Imedeon 9500 mAh LSD NiMH cells:
high: 460 lumens/2.0A
low: 120 lumens/0.45A

BTW, the driver audibly sings on low.

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texaspyro wrote:
I snagged two of them at the Home Depot in Richardson, TX at Plano Rd & Buckingham. They were stored on the high boxes above the flashlight section. Dude with the Big Stairs got them down. BTW, they come six to a box, not five.

Both of mine were DOA due to the o-ring problem mentioned in post #19!!! Something tells me this is going to be causing Home Depot a LOT of grief.

Crammed it into the Sphere ‘o Many Mysteries. Using their D batteries:

high: 540 lumens/2.3A
low: 158 lumens/0.6A
strobe: 7 Hz
cct: 5990K

With Imedeon 9500 mAh LSD NiMH cells:
high: 460 lumens/2.0A
low: 120 lumens/0.45A

BTW, the driver audibly sings on low.

thanks for the info! added to op

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Measured the PWM freq on low: 536 Hz

Updated the measurement post with the new number.

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