US - Defiant ArmorMax 3D Tactical Flashlight - 3D XML light $29.97 - GET BACK TO HD NOW!!!!

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FMcamaroZ28 wrote:
Picked mine up!

Fall resistant to 9m!

Because fully loaded with 3D and the rubber caps

Just a few grams short of the BTU Shocker


Put the rubber bumpers on and it should weigh more than the Shocker.
Edit: Are they on there??? Can’t tell…
Edit2: Yeah looks like it’s on there. NVM Oops

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I got five bad ones : :Sp

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Fixed do to nottawhackjob post…grrr

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Specifically the o-rings? Try tightening the tailcap with an extra ‘oomph’ at what seems like the end of its travel. That should allow the contact point to engage even though the o-ring initially blocked it.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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The ArmorMax has a nice finish. Looking forward for more.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
Specifically the o-rings? Try tightening the tailcap with an extra ‘oomph’ at what seems like the end of its travel. That should allow the contact point to engage even though the o-ring initially blocked it.

Also, when I took the tail cap apart, I bent the contact tab on the white clicky outwards, slightly…

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>>>>>>>>Also, when I took the tail cap apart, I bent the contact tab on the white clicky outwards, slightly…

Did that to mine also. PLUS the switch tab wasn’t going through the spring but off to the side or on top of it. I forget which, but it wasn’t making any kind of reliable contact.

Looks like it wasn’t a happy day on the assembly line. Sad

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Ubehebe wrote:
>>>>>>>>Also, when I took the tail cap apart, I bent the contact tab on the white clicky outwards, slightly…

Did that to mine also. PLUS the switch tab wasn’t going through the spring but off to the side or on top of it. I forget which, but it wasn’t making any kind of reliable contact.

Looks like it wasn’t a happy day on the assembly line. Sad

This Defiant has issues. If you are getting it for/or recommending that a non-flashaholic buy this light, you will have to make sure the clicky in the tail cap was assembled correctly, and fix it for them. I have both HD lights, and though the 3 D cell has some advantages, I would stick with the 3 C cell. The 3 D has reflector issues, and assembly issues, and the 3 C has a cleaner hot spot and throws better — not too impressed with the 3 D version.

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I think the tail cap on the 3D was a bit over-engineered. To many parts for something that should have been simple. The ArmorMax 3C version (not the Super Thower) has the same type of tail cap design too, including a super long spring.

However, none of this is anything BLF members can’t deal with to improve.

Richie

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anyone mod this yet?

its at the bottom of my list of about 6 mods i have ongoing (waiting for parts, deciding on drivers etc)

i figure maybe i will wait till mouser has the new 90cri XML2 warm white 3200k in stock, stipple the reflector and make a nice incan looking beam out of this one

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I would love to see a 1D version of this! Think its possible to thread the tube since the space for the label takes up so much room? Also waiting to see some good lux numbers…or maybe I should just buy a lux meter myself. Smile Dont know how I would get that by the wife; maybe distract her with shoes.

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kicken_bright wrote:
Dont know how I would get that by the wife; maybe distract her with shoes.

purses work well too Smile

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Went to the local HD for the 3rd time trying to find this 3D light, even though online showed 5 in stock, no one had been able to find one in the store on multiple visits.

Today they were sitting on the shelf, alongside a 3C version of the Armor max, and a 2AA version Armormax. (Is this new news, or have I missed posts about these?)

the 3C model packaging stated 225lumen, 3 mode. The reflector was much smaller in diameter – more along the lines of a Mag-C. I couldn’t easily tell what emitter was in it – it was very small – looked to be smaller than the XP-G’s I’ve used in other lights. Nichia 219 maybe? I’ve never seen one of those in person. SKU 852740 $24.97 @ my store.

The 2AA model was mini-mag sized, and stated as 70lumen. Emitter in this one was quite large – looked to be XM-L sized, but it didn’t seem like one to me, comparing it to the emitter in the 3D model. SKU 852546 $17.97 @ my store.

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3C Armormax

3C emitter

2AA (thought I had taken a pic of the emitter too – I can’t find it on my phone Sad )

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nice find! i saw those on the HD website last night, i am going to see if my local HD has any when i go to pick up some new cree bulbs

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Looks like you posted the wrong link for the 2AA one.  Edit, you fixed it.

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I actually didn’t grab any of the 3, after reading some of the issues people have had with the 3D – I already own 2 of the 3C tactical throwers, and the 2AA didn’t really ring my bell when I can buy an XM-L Ultrafire 502 on Amazon for $13 all day long.

I’m pretty bad, huh?

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I think I was fixing it before you posted, lol.

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I'd like to hear how the pill/heatsinking is on the 2AA.  Could be a decent mod host (not having to fit a heatsink into a Maglite 2AA).  What kind of switch does the 2AA have?  Side switch, tail switch? Twisty?

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garrybunk wrote:

I’d like to hear how the pill/heatsinking is on the 2AA.  Could be a decent mod host (not having to fit a heatsink into a Maglite 2AA).  What kind of switch does the 2AA have?  Side switch, tail switch? Twisty?

-Garry

I probably should have grabbed one (or both, or all 3) now that I think about it. The 2AA model actually seemed a little bigger than a minimag. Closer to my 502 or a surefire G2. Little longer though.

Thanks, Chris

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The West Hartford Home Depot just put the 3C “Super Thrower” out on the floor a couple of days ago (March 5). The 3D is nowhere in sight at ANY HD around here. Maybe next year?

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garrybunk wrote:

I’d like to hear how the pill/heatsinking is on the 2AA.  Could be a decent mod host (not having to fit a heatsink into a Maglite 2AA).  What kind of switch does the 2AA have?  Side switch, tail switch? Twisty?

-Garry


I’m curious about the 2aa also, might make a nice host for an upgrade.-Rick
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The 2aa will run off of 2 14500’s?Wow…thats a huge jump in voltage, from 2.4 to 8.4 volts!I wonder what driver it has?Do the modes still work with 14500?Also, as Garry asked…does the 2aa have a side switch?-Rick

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Thanks for posting. I dont know how I missed this thread but I’ll definitely be buying the 3D version soon. This looks like the perfect cheap “flooder/long run time/skull basher” combo for the pickup truck & camping light. I also need something to stuff all my NiMH D cells in… easy to fix and mod.

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dchomak wrote:
The West Hartford Home Depot just put the 3C “Super Thrower” out on the floor a couple of days ago (March 5). The 3D is nowhere in sight at ANY HD around here. Maybe next year?

If you order it online theyll ship it to your local store free… Danbury and derby had the 3d last weekend

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cat eyes wrote:
the 2x AA armormax is a XM-L …. it looks like one to the eye…. and i put two 14500s in it and it was very bright and identical to my other XM-Ls…. i have not taken it apart yet…

Can an XM-L even operate below about 2.6v? Cree’s spec sheets don’t show a forward voltage spec below about 150ma current.

and are you saying you’re running a pair or 14500 LiIon’s in series for a 7.2-8.4v powersource? Most of these lights are direct driven, and intended to be maxed out at 3v from a pair of Alkalines. I could see a single 14500 working. You’ve got to be seriously taxing the current limiting resistors, and heating the poo out of the pill, right? I’m surprised the emitter has taken that very well.

I’s like to see the inside of this one. Guess I’ll have to go get one after work.

Thanks, Chris

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dchomak wrote:
The West Hartford Home Depot just put the 3C “Super Thrower” out on the floor a couple of days ago (March 5). The 3D is nowhere in sight at ANY HD around here. Maybe next year?

If you order it online theyll ship it to your local store free… Danbury and derby had the 3d last weekend


Did you ever find your 2’ length of poly pipe in Derby?
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dchomak wrote:
jmpaul320 wrote:
dchomak wrote:
The West Hartford Home Depot just put the 3C “Super Thrower” out on the floor a couple of days ago (March 5). The 3D is nowhere in sight at ANY HD around here. Maybe next year?

If you order it online theyll ship it to your local store free… Danbury and derby had the 3d last weekend


Did you ever find your 2’ length of poly pipe in Derby?

Haha not yet… Got sidetracked with….. Other mundane things of life

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. . . i have many 3-D armormax XM-L lights if anyone wants them
before i return them to home depot….

I, too, have been debating if I want to keep mine. It’s still sealed in the original package. Here are the pro’s and con’s as I see them:

Big Pro’s:

  • Has room to handle many types of batteries and different configurations (Opportunities for big power or long run times).
  • Appears to have (very?) good heat sinking.
    Small Pro’s:
  • Big and heavy (gotta respect a light that can second as an improvised club).
  • Good size reflector, offset by the fact that there are many similar priced multi-led competitors. Maybe a different emitter would make it special?

Big Con’s:

  • Odd reflector size makes it difficult to find other reflectors for different beam patterns (e.g. more throw, etc) and glass lenses.
    Small Con:
  • Tail switch is awkward in such a big light. Have to give up battery space to move switch forward

I’m not going to count the switch functionality issues as that seems easy to fix. The Pro’s are pretty compelling to me. Are there any other lights in this price range that have them? Please correct me or add other items if I missed anything. I need help deciding.

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I don’t know about that one. Its main problem with me is definitely that rear switch with such a big heavy light. If it had a forward switch this light would’ve rocked a whole lot more.

What were they thinking?

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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nottawhackjob wrote: Moving the switch to a forward clicky like a Mag is easy?

Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to people getting the lights and the switches not working. It seems like that would be easy to correct. I’m no O-L, it would be a big job for me to move the switch forward.

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

Big Con’s:

  • Odd reflector size makes it difficult to find other reflectors for different beam patterns (e.g. more throw, etc) and glass lenses.

just use some clear coat aerosol paint and lightly spray a few coats on the reflector from about 5’… result will be a medium-heavy orange peel like reflector…

i did a crappy job on mine and ended up with too much clear coat and it still works fine… makes for a nice flooder Smile

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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