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kaidomain xpg2 s2 1a are real deal ?

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Hi all,

Firstly I would like to thanks RaceR86 for fixing the spreadsheet. Hope your hand will get well soon Smile

I just found that http://www.cutter.com.au/index.php now has Nichia NVSL219B R85 emitters, bare and mounted on aluminum MCPB 10mm, 20mm, triples on 20mm, 32mm and etc. One just have to type: nichia 219b on Cutter's search page.

I also found this link: http://eepurl.com/Rm8x1 posted by dsche in fonarevka forum, link: http://forum.fonarevka.ru/showthread.php?p=497494#post497494 (I hope he doesn't mind I post it here). It's from Cutter mailing list. It compares the spectral perfomance of Nichia 219A vs 219B. It's interesting that these new Nichia NVSL219B has CCT of 5015K, CRI of 91, and outputting 260 lumens at 700mA.

I hope RaceR86 would help to add these to the spreadsheet. Thanks in advance bro Smile

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What cutter does not say what id the brightness bin and voltage bin for these Nichia LEDs.

The SW45 should 4745K-4260K.   Can really Nichia sell a 4745K-4260K that turns out to be 5015K or that is a SW50 (which does not appear in the Nichia datasheet at R85 CRI) 

EDIT they say ordered SW45, 4500K and result show 5015K. Inetersting.

I prefer 4500K more than 5000K+

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I’ll add the cutter 219B R85.

I’m happy to add other things you guys find. Just perhaps post it & mark “help adding” or something similar. Usually when I see something posted here I forget that they might not have added it to the spreadsheet.


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nofearek9 wrote:
kaidomain xpg2 s2 1a are real deal ?

Who knows.. Kaidomain have been know for claiming top bin on stuff that isnt top bin in the past. Several people seem to be happy with their latest Nichias, and I have not heard many complaints. Ill probably never consider KD a trustworthy vendor when it comes to this stuff (or most things).

The latest XP-G2 S2 from IOS have a pretty nice price, especially considering that they are mounted on Noctigon. Quantity discount is good too.


Thanks for helping out Helios. 


Testing XM-L2 U2 4C from Fasttech

Ok, did a simple noobish test.. I used two different lights meters at the same time.

FT XM-L2 U2 4C vs FT XM-L2 T6 4D, both reflowed to Noctigon.

 

Ceiling bounce numbers in the order I tested the emitters:

T6 4D test 1: 47 and 47

U2 4C test 1: 43 and 45

T6 4D test 2: 43 and 45

U2 4C test 2: 35 and 44

U2 1A (from IOS) test 1: 40 and 51

First meter shows bad consistency. I would recommend focusing on the 2nd number on each test. The U2 3C have quite similar or lower readings compared to the T6 4D. Not anywhere near the U2 from IOS.

My conclusion: The XM-L2 U2 3C 4C from fasttech is not U2 bin. Maybe its T6, but not better..  Not a surprise really...

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8 Added – Nichia.

Cutter Nichia 219B R85
Bare, 10mm, 20mm, 3up 20mm, 4up 24mm, 3up 32mm, 4up 32mm, 7up 40mm.

~ edit ~
All 219B R85, 90CRI, 5015K, D240 bin.


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2 Added – Nichia

Mountain Electronic Nichia 219 on copper noctigon 16mm and 20mm.

I noticed they weren’t on the spreadsheet.


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YAY. Great news everybody.

XM-L2 in "2" tint. THE ONLY XM-L2s in the "2" category. AND, its U2 bin!  Party

I requested these about a year ago.

XM-L2 U2 2C on 16mm Noctigon 6,86$

XM-L2 U2 2C on 20mm Noctigon 6,69$

 

(order placed)

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Helios- wrote:
8 Added – Nichia.

Cutter Nichia 219B R85
Bare, 10mm, 20mm, 3up 20mm, 4up 24mm, 3up 32mm, 4up 32mm, 7up 40mm.

I presume they are all 219B R85 but some didn’t say “B” or R85 so I had to leave it off those. All have the same lumens listed. All 5k. All alum.


To clarify they are 219B, they are R85 and they are D240 flux bins. We are spectral testing leds in house primarily because many leds that are min cri spec’d are generally higher so see it as being useful information to denote specific stock bin spectral performance for those that care about that sort of detail

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Welcome welight!
Thanks for coming here & confirming that.
The spectral testing is fabulous.

Updated those entries in the database.


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Added (found by RaceR86 & JohnnyMac)

Triple 20mm Nichia 219A B11 (Parallel) w/ TIR optic $7.34
Triple 20mm Nichia 219A B11 (Series) w/ TIR optic $7.34
Cree XM-L2 T5-5D 260LM 4000-4300K LED Emitter $4.44
Cree XP-G2 S2-2B 458LM 5700-6000K LED Emitter $2.56

Could this actually be S2 bin XP-G2? Has there been other XP-G2 S2 before?


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Helios- wrote:
Added (found by RaceR86 & JohnnyMac)

Triple 20mm Nichia 219A B11 (Parallel) w/ TIR optic $7.34
Triple 20mm Nichia 219A B11 (Series) w/ TIR optic $7.34
Cree XM-L2 T5-5D 260LM 4000-4300K LED Emitter $4.44
Cree XP-G2 S2-2B 458LM 5700-6000K LED Emitter $2.56

Could this actually be S2 bin XP-G2? Has there been other XP-G2 S2 before?


XPG-2 in S2 bin has been available for some time now

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Helios- wrote:
 Could this actually be S2 bin XP-G2? Has there been other XP-G2 S2 before?

Who knows with FT..

See post 300 for more S2 binned XP-G2s.  Not sure why the S2 emitters from intl-outdoor are not to be found in the database now. Ill add those. Again.

EDIT: Whoops. They were added. But I had written R5 bin on them.. Fixed now..

I never got around to add the ones from KD, so I sent you the link.  0:)

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I’m thinking the nichia 219 page could use something to separate 219A, 219B & non high cri. How about another column? “Type” perhaps?
219A H1 / 219B R85 is like XP-G / XP-G2


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Maybe add an extra Nichia sheet?

Do as you like Helios.

Smile

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Hey I was wondering why no links or interest in Cree XBH?? same flux as XPG-2 but in 2.45mm package. this led is made for torches

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Oh, another XP-G2 S2. :bigsmile:
I went to add this FastTech XP-G2 S2 2B, only to see someone already added it. Scroll to see who added it…. Helios. :ghost: Oh, yea, thats right. Tired

welight wrote:
Hey I was wondering why no links or interest in Cree XBH?? same flux as XPG-2 but in 2.45mm package. this led is made for torches

There was initially a thread with excitement for the XB-H but it seems like people lost interest when they realized it appears to use an XP-G size led die. Smaller package but not higher surface brightness that some people want for throwers.

Welight, the XB-H on 20mm star is T4 bin, 1C tint? link
Added an XB-H page.


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Helios- wrote:
Oh, another XP-G2 S2. :bigsmile: I went to add this FastTech XP-G2 S2 2B, only to see someone already added it. Scroll to see who added it.... Helios. :ghost: Oh, yea, thats right. Tired
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Hey I was wondering why no links or interest in Cree XBH?? same flux as XPG-2 but in 2.45mm package. this led is made for torches
There was initially a thread with excitement for the XB-H but it seems like people lost interest when they realized it appears to use an XP-G size led die. Smaller package but not higher surface brightness that some people want for throwers. Welight, the XB-H on 20mm star is T4 bin, 1C tint? "link":http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut1732 Added an XB-H page.

 

Yes correct.

I am a bit surprised, same lumens with 5 degree narrower primary beam angle, unless your dedoming in which case it wont matter and roughly 20% lower cost

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Ooopsie Smile - I stupidly missed all those earlier posts. Guess I'll find out if the FT S2's are real....

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Tom E wrote:

Ooopsie Smile - I stupidly missed all those earlier posts. Guess I'll find out if the FT S2's are real....

Please report back. Could be useful for some.

When that is said. For most modders (who like their amps high). 2,99 -3,99$ mounted on Noctigon from IOS. Then you could also be (more) certain that you get the correct bin and tint. Hard to beat that. 

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RaceR86 wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Ooopsie Smile - I stupidly missed all those earlier posts. Guess I'll find out if the FT S2's are real....

Please report back. Could be useful for some.

When that is said. For most modders (who like their amps high). 2,99 -3,99$ mounted on Noctigon from IOS. Then you could also be (more) certain that you get the correct bin and tint. Hard to beat that. 

True - I got a bunch of spare bare copper boards to use up, so am always looking for bare emitters.

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@RaceR86:
You started this great project, so I want to ask you about one thing:

Is it ok for you and most others, if we modified the list with a "available" column?

At the moment I need a XM-L2 U2 with an aluminum base (replacement for a SWM C10R - on high only 0,9-1A - copper base is not needed). INTL-outdoor has a XM-L2 U2 for under $5 nine months ago, but do not listed this at the moment. Maybe it will come back and deleting the line in the data sheet wouldn't be the best solution. A new column could help and if someone find a not available led, he could post a "not" with date and colored the field red for example. If it is avaialable later somone could delete the "not".
Maybe someone else have a better idea, how this could be marked.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I think it would be a good Idea if the datasheets were frequently updated.

A possible issue with adding an "available column" is that it would easily become another thing that should have been updated, but wont be. There are not enough people updating. Me included. I try focus mainly on adding new emitters and fixing the sheet when it gets a bit messed up. If a link is dead, I suggest to delete the emitter/line. I always do that.

With an "available column" I think we can risk that an emitter is marked "not available", but then the emitters gets back in stock. No one updates it. And people wont bother clicking it because the datasheet says "not available", despite that it is.

I think its better that people sometimes click dead links or on products that are out of stock (and hopefully update them or delete them), then to avoid checking them out due to a column that may or may not be correct about their "in stock" info.

That is my thoughts.. Feel free to do a trial on one of the popular sheets, like XM-L2 or XP-G2 if you think its worth a shoot, and are able to help updating the datasheets. If it something that works, It could be adopted to all the other sheets.

All help with keeping the database updated is highly appreciated. Smile

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new emitters at intl-outdoor.com :

-Nichia 219B R85 D220 4100-4700K typ. 92CRI, bare, on 16mm Noctigon, 20mm Noctigon

-XP-E2 red P3 bin, on 16mm Noctigon, 20mm Noctigon

(wish they had this 2 months ago...)

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I could use some help with google spreadsheets. I’m looking to add a note across multiple columns.

This can be found on the MCPCB page line 3 & 4 “XM boards are compatible with: XM-L, XM-L2”
I think a comment like that would be good on the nichia 219 page. Something like “Type: 219 A = NVSL 219AT-H1 , 219 B = NVSL 219B R85” The comment column could then be decluttered.

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Thanks for info djozz. I ordered some various emitters again. Including red XP-E2. 2amp here I come..  Edit: Around 2,5amp here I come.

Thank Helis for adding emitters. I added a few too.

Helios-Evil-Twin. I divided the Nichia sheet into two sheets. One for 219A and one for 219B. I think that makes it easier. Good enough?

Thanks to Helios or whoever it was who made it easy to sort between the two.

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I looked at the spreadsheet and was going to clean up some things to my own taste but reconsidered. I think you should start using abbreviations and symbols where necessary. EG
-Yes can be Y
-Free shipping = Y, Not free = N, Not free but cheap = N, $, Not free expensive = N, $$
-A lot of repetitive words are unnecessary. Sinkpad = SP, quantity discount = QD,
-Could move “edited by” to last column out of site, almost unnecessary but if you want to keep it then general users won’t need to see it. SAme goes with “updated”
-Should standardize number separators. The Europeans are using the comma and the Americans are using the decimal

And a few other things that would help it be cleaner. But thats up to you guys!

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Finally a source for the 4000K MT-G2, new at intl-outdoor, bare and on 20mm Noctigon:

http://intl-outdoor.com/cree-mtg2-m0-4000k-2step-6v-bare-led-p-801.html

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..and XP-L at IS, 2A, 2C, 2D tint

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