BLF Edition ThruNite Saber 1A Group Buy - $19.99

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ran home on lunch found my 2 sabers in the mailbox. i unscrewed the threads (felt like they were about as smooth as sand paper) and put a battery in the first one and nothing. can’t even get it to turn on. I put a battery in my second and it wouldn’t turn on either. pissed, I smacked the light on my hand and it finally lit up. I put an eneloop in it (which barely fit) and its shorting out and flickering.

what happened?? and I don’t know any lights I can compare the tint to besides the fenix e01 if that says anything. except the saber’s beam is a lot more ringy than my e01s have ever been :~ LEDs are both off center in mine (which wouldn’t bother me so much if they would actually light up!). so glad I bought two of these…my group buy archer comes tomorrow I hope it’s not going to be like this…these were my first and last ever purchases from thrunite. I hope they will at least fix or replace these lights

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lol i didn’t expect much in the first place besides them lighting up. that would have been nice. i don’t know what to do with these..the pill/drivers are all the way tightened in the head. i tried tightening the contact spring in the end with no luck (although i’m not sure how that would help..it appears to be making contact regardless?). I guess my next step is to email thrunite. i’m going to try cleaning up and properly lubing the threads and hopefully that will fix something

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This is not sounding good. I hope Thrunite are willing to sort out these issues else there might be quite a number of PayPal claims.

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I guess I’m a lucky person. I’ve been playing all day long with mine and works great.
So sorry for those who have problems. I have a t10 and this Sarber 1A and both seem great flashlights.
(are good flashlights in a mid range 15-20 $, not more expensive)

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Isn’t the step-down from turbo on the D series supposed to be around 20%? That’s certainly what it looks like to me…..

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On my D25A (xp-g2 too!) the Turbo steps down from estimated 136 FENIX LUMENS down to estimated 45 FENIX LUMENS.

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I’m surprised at the small but noticeable differences in build quality between this BLF Saber and my older (2012) T10. Everything on the older light just seems to fit a little better. I wonder if they are from the same factory? And why in the name of God didn’t they make the tailstanding platform a little better?! (Well, I knew they hadn’t, but still…. Wink )

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I guess I’m a lucky person. I’ve been playing all day long with mine and works great. So sorry for those who have problems. I have a t10 and this Sarber 1A and both seem great flashlights. (are good flashlights in a mid range 15-20 $, not more expensive)
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On my D25A (xp-g2 too!) the Turbo steps down from estimated 136 FENIX LUMENS down to estimated 45 FENIX LUMENS. And the D25A xp-g2 is clearly brighter than the Archer 1A (rated at ridiculous 178 THRUNITE LIAR LUMENS). Both lights draw ~2.1A on a 1.50V overcharged Eneloop cell but with a half-depleted cell the Archer draws only say 1.7A. I don’t know how well the Hi-mode Eneloop regulation of the Saber is but the Archer 1A is not stabilized on this mode. Therefore the drop in current and brightness. Saber/Archer owners with a light meter feel free to verify the poor regulation on Eneloop Hi-mode.

So there you have it.

D25A xp-g2 (~136 FENIX lm) is brighter than Archer 1A xp-g2 is brighter than Saber 1A.

 

I am sure that there is nothing special or outstanding with Archer or Saber lights. No optimization, design target, nothing. They are just lights, robust products, rugged. What makes them stand out .. was their acquisition price, forum groub buy. TN was desperate to generate any kind of sales and they managed to clear the initial production batch of these lights, that was the whole purpose of the aggressive marketing and sales activity.

You cannot expect too much from such a simple light, can you? Wink

Archer and Saber lights are not superior lights imo. Superior lights in this 1xAA non-budget class are imho LD12 G2, D25A xp-g2, D25A Ti xp-g2, and SC52. Quarks are superior too .. but their anodization looks and feels cheapish and is not particularly wear-resistant. In this post, i wont comment on Olight, Klarus, SWM or Nitecore Silly

Interesting comparison.

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My BLF Saber works fine. I can’t See anything wrong with it.

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Well, I guess I’m lucky with the BLF Saber. Worked perfectly out of the box. LED centered perfectly also.

Compared to my T10, the threads on the BLF version are rougher but acceptable.
Also, xpg2 tint is a tad warmer (pinker) than the xpg T10 and as a result the colors pop with the xpg2

Othere than that, no difference really between the two to warrant one besting the other. However, I do prefer the slightly warmer tint of the Saber.

Oh, there is no whine in firefly mode on the BLF Saber….there Is on the T10…never knew the whine existed til I read about it in this thread. And you have to stick it in your ear to even hear it… Big Smile

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And you have to stick it in your ear to even hear it… Big Smile

dang dis bfl place is too funny harhah Party

LOL….look at Johnny Mac’s Avatar…he does it all the time… Big Smile Party

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ok so after playing around with these for a while they are working fine. I had to clean all of the threads out, lube it up, and play around with the spring a bit to make sure it was solid and they seem to be working fine now. as long as these work I am completely happy. my main complaint is the off-center led’s on both of mine, but this doesn’t make a huge difference either way. as long as they continue to work i will be happy with them. I think they were just rushed and threw them together in the factory…hopefully they will read some reviews/complaints and take the extra few minutes to clean up their products next time before sending them out.

i have an eagletac d25c xm-l u2, so it can’t be directly compared, but the d25c isn’t much brighter than my sabers. i also have 2 foursevens mini ml xp-g2’s, and they are pretty close in brightness. the foursevens have a tighter hotspot are a bit brighter, but they are also using cr123’s instead of eneloops so that isn’t a big surprise. i will say that what i used to think were nasty blue tints on my foursevens look completely nw now when put next to my sabers. (to be fair, the foursevens and eagletac lights are over double the price of the tn saber as well..so even the fact that they’re close is pretty impressive)

overall, for what it is and what i paid i am pretty happy. i was pissed when i first opened up 2 broken lights, but after a little tlc they turned out decent.

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I’ll be checking the beams tonight of the xpg2 vs xpg when it gets dark.
I saw a comparo of the beam here a while back…in that comparo the xpg2 did best the xpg.

Waiting for darkness….. Beer

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kreisler wrote:

Trevi_lux wrote:
I have a t10 and this Sarber 1A

How is brightness of Saber 1A compared to your D25A (before step-down)?

Please try full Eneloop and then again with half-empty Eneloop, thanks!! Big Smile

Before Step-down with full eneloop, for my eyes a little brighter D25A XP-G2 (the difference luxmeter 270 lux at 1 meter). With eneloop emptier (use half), the difference increases to my eyes (for luxmeter the difference is 375 Lux). The D25A is brighter (also costs twice) 8)

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0:) I agree with you, but others also been disappointed to me, lie about runtimes, is lying on lux … even some people say that man has landed on the moon ….. :bigsmile:
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kreisler wrote:
. . so you’re saying that

D25A xp-g2 (121 EAGLETAC ANSI LUMENS) is brighter than Saber 1A xp-g2 (169 THRUNITE LIAR ANSI LUMENS)?

Is the comparison made with a NiMH instead of the rated alkaline? If so, you should know better than to conflate the two, whatever the outcome would be with the correct cell type.

Just sayin’. I don’t currently own either Thrunite or Eagletac, so I don’t have a bias here.

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My ET D25A XPG2 R5 rated at ~130 ANSI lumens on “turbo” is noticeably brighter than the BLF T10 on “high”, and even a bit brighter after it drops 20%. All on NiMH 2000mAh eneloops. Later tonight I can compare them on two AA alkies.

Alright. I just loaded my D25A and the BLF T10 with brand new Duracell alkalines and for the first three minutes, the D25A is noticeably brighter. After step-down they are about the same. There is no doubt in my mind that Thrunite’s output numbers are heavily inflated.

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kreisler wrote:
. . so you’re saying that

D25A xp-g2 (121 EAGLETAC ANSI LUMENS) is brighter than Saber 1A xp-g2 (169 THRUNITE LIAR ANSI LUMENS)?

Is the comparison made with a NiMH instead of the rated alkaline? If so, you should know better than to conflate the two, whatever the outcome would be with the correct cell type.

Just sayin’. I don’t currently own either Thrunite or Eagletac, so I don’t have a bias here.

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That’s very generous for Thrunite. Cute light though. :8)

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I’ll be checking the beams tonight of the xpg2 vs xpg when it gets dark.
I saw a comparo of the beam here a while back…in that comparo the xpg2 did best the xpg.

Waiting for darkness….. Beer

In my sample, the xpg2 Saber is definitely visualy brighter than the xpg t-10. In addition, the tint is warmer and makes a lot of difference in what you see. The t-10 appears greenish compared to the warmer Saber.

I definitely prefer the Saber.

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My first foray into modern lights was the ThruNite T10 and everything I have bought since gets compared to it.

I just received my Saber 1A today and my initial reaction is similar to others.

First of all the body is, as expected, the same as the T10. Heck, mine says ThruNite T10 on one side and Saber 1A on the other. This compared to my original T10 which says TruNite T10 on one side and a picture of a battery on the other.

The head is, as expected, interchangable between the bodies. The Archer 1A feels, as reported, like sandpaper when you first open it to put in the battery. I need to buy some grease to fix it Sad

Light output with enloops is a little brighter than the original T10 on both high and medium according to my untrained eye when I point them both at indoor wall which is about what you would from a light rated 1.5x brighter on a log scale.

Both get warmer than I want to hold after 5 minutes on high.

Don’t get me wrong, I am happy with the light other than having to clean it and replace the grease. It is well worth the 20 dollars I paid for it. Thank you ThruNite for the group buy.

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I received my BLF Saber today, and especially for the $19 cost, I am very happy.

Neutral white tint. I like the decent throw it has for such a tiny light, I was not expecting that. No finish issues. My white-top Duraloop fit perfectly, with absolutely NO room to spare. So no room to rattle.

Except for the dry threads out of the box (minor issue), the only problem found so far is the tail stand base. The Saber does tail stand, but just barely.

The lighter the brighter the better.

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Welcome fractal! Thanks for weighing in on this light. Seems almost like there were 2 different production runs. Mine is at the post office waiting for me to sign for it (*$^! registered mail means I have to wait 2 extra days and go to the post office to get a light).

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fractal wrote:
First of all the body is, as expected, the same as the T10. Heck, mine says ThruNite T10 on one side and Saber 1A on the other.

Never noticed it until your post, but mine also says ThruNite T10 on one side.

The lighter the brighter the better.

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Streamer wrote:
kreisler wrote:

Streamer wrote:
And you have to stick it in your ear to even hear it... :D

dang dis bfl place is too funny harhah Party

LOL....look at Johnny Mac's Avatar...he does it all the time... Big Smile :party:
LOL!  :bigsmile:
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A tube of Nyogel 760g is absolutely worth it (and if you don’t want the big tube, ArmyTec repackages it in smaller tubes – still plenty). I’ve used two kinds of silicone (divers o-ring lube and thinner watch gasket lube), lithium grease, synthetic bike grease, etc. For twisty flashlights the feel of the Nyogel beats them all. Damping is just right for these small lights, and even my relatively rough L10 is now smooth as silk.

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I need to buy some grease to fix it Sad
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dusty99 wrote:
I wondered about the contact spring and reached in with a pair of needle-nose pliers and rotated it half a turn. That seems to have done the trick, as it's running correctly now. The beam is like my original XPG T10, but a little bluer (and just barely brighter).

Thanks for the tip! Tried rotating the spring with hemostats and now my light actually stays on without flickering. Same beam here, a little cooler (blueish) than my T10.

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...pissed, I smacked the light on my hand and it finally lit up. I put an eneloop in it (which barely fit) and its shorting out and flickering...

I had the same problem with mine. I tried cleaning the threads, tightened the pill, checked the wires to the led and nothing... until I rotated the spring. So far it appears to be working without flickering.

I wonder what happened to the quality? I have bought 15+ Thrunites (a lot of Ti's to give away) and only one of them, a Neutron 2A, had a minor problem. It was visibly less bright than my other Neutron 2A, but I got a partial refund. I think I'll take a break from buying any more Thrunites due to these contact issues and the cool (blueish) tint.

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I got my BLF Saber today, the threads were a little gritty but no problems with it. The threads are also a lot smoother than my original T10 as I cant twist it with 1 hand but the BLF Saber is easy to twist.

The tint is pure white compared to my blueish/purplish T10 tint, also it didn’t have any contact problems at all.

I’m happy with it, I wish I had bought more for that price.

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I got mine yesterday too, its quality is nice. The threads were lubed and like the others mentioned a bit sandy and after turning it (with the sand) on and off 30 times it stopped working…

I removed the dirtylube with a tissue, below the non threadened part and from the top contact. It was black like always and after this it lights up again and is much smoother.

Cheap nimh don’t fit, my nitecore 14500 with an extra layer tape won’t fit too.
and the groove between the two parts could be smaller.

It is bright for such a little cutie, I will measure tailcap current when I have found my trustfire 14500…

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I picked mine up from the post office this morning. After hearing bad things, I was prepared for the worst. But I’m quite happy with mine.

Positive: Threads are very smooth, no flickering problems at all. Modes are great, the memory sets after the light is off for about 2 seconds, which is about perfect. Quality seems first rate. It’s also surprisingly bright on AA NiMH. No battery rattle. Modes are L-M-H, no strobes. LED is definitely an XP-G2 and well-centered, though the opening in the reflector is pretty big (about the size of the whole LED; shown below on right vs. V10A on left).

Cons: The tint is definitely cool white. It makes my V10A look neutral by comparison. Pretty big hotspot (same size as my iTP A3 EOS with XP-E), so I don’t think it will be much of a thrower, but it’s tiny, so it’s not supposed to be. There is also some play in the threads like the original iTP A3 EOS where if you twist it to off, you can press the head and it will come on. That’s not a big deal, but you will want to give it a good size twist to off if you are putting this in your pocket. Lastly, I’m not so sure about the lens coating. The coating doesn’t seem as effective as the V10A, but I will need to compare against some uncoated lenses.

Neutral: Says ThruNite T10 on one side and Saber 1A on the other, which is kind of funny. BLF on the head. Tailstanding is a little wobbly due to the thin keyring knockout, but it does stand.

I’m sorry others are having some issues, but hopefully the rough threads can be worked and the contact problems can be solved.

The box says that ThruNite lights are designed in the USA. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that?

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I just did a quick comparison of my T10 and Saber 1A. The Saber box says “designed in USA,” the T10 box doesn’t. There are also different company addresses on the boxes (different cities), and looking closely at the heads they don’t quite match (knurling, groove width). My guess is that Thrunite went to a different supplier for the new light, and QC wasn’t as good as the original place.

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I received my Saber 1A today. I had been looking forward to it, but instead of joy it was disappointment.
The light flickers on all modes, and sometimes does not turn on. Obviously defective.
Now what??

I should add that I am not technically competent here and am not faintly interested in doing any repair.

Jerry

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