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Thrunite posting fake reviews (now removed)

Sad to see this happen. I looked up the BLF edition Saber 1A page and was surprised it had 29 reviews already. And almost all of them were just a couple of sentences. And kind of generic sounding. I did a search on one phrase "this tiny flashlight was the one that shined best" and found that it came from a 2009 review of the Fenix E01 on Amazon.

http://www.thrunite-store.com/group-sales/group-buy-thrunite-flashlight-...

UPDATE: Thrunite-store has removed the fake reviews for the Saber at the link above. Hopefully they are working on purging the fake reviews on some of the other lights on their store.

Edited by: brted on 04/05/2013 - 07:28
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The first review as well. Sad

The third and fourth review are also copied:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2WQAA8PJEO5DR/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B002YLTU3Q&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1B15P1XUAW2PL/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B001GAOO6Y&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

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The name of the game is Astroturfing, fyi…

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Flomotion wrote:
The name of the game is Astroturfing, fyi…

Thanks! This is pretty disturbing (from Wikipedia)…

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Some astroturfers deploy sockpuppeting techniques, where a single person creates multiple identities to give the appearance of grassroots support. Sockpuppets may post positive reviews about a product, attack participants that criticize the organization, or post negative reviews and comments about competitors, under fake identities. Astroturfing businesses pay staff based on the number of posts they make that stay up without being flagged by moderators. Persona management software may be used so that each paid poster can manage five to seventy convincing online personas without mixing them up.

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The whole damn world seems to run on lies nowadays. |(

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As unfortunate this is to find out, I have always been surprised fake reviewing isn’t a far larger problem on the internet considering the ease to do it.

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Whoa I didn’t expect that from Thrunite! not good and really not worth it

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Just playing devil’s advocate here, but could a competitor purposely use a “fake” fake review made to be easily detectable to discredit the target? It seems the right thing to do would be to delete any suspected posts, but then there will be cries of censorship. Seems like a no win situation.

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Whoa I didn’t expect that from Thrunite!
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Don’t believe the internet,and we also don’t take the things too seriously, I just care the quality of the product,

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kuoh wrote:
Just playing devil’s advocate here, but could a competitor purposely use a “fake” fake review made to be easily detectable to discredit the target? It seems the right thing to do would be to delete any suspected posts, but then there will be cries of censorship. Seems like a no win situation.

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It’s quite possible.. good to see they have removed them now.

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Spasmod wrote:
Whoa I didn’t expect that from Thrunite! not good and really not worth it

Unfortunately this doesn’t surprise me. Thrunite has been banned from BLF for quite a few months now because of their desperate and unscrupulous behavior on BLF. They shed many crocodile tears when they were banned and promised to change their ways, but now this is just another manifestation of Thrunite’s corporate culture of lying.

That being said, there are several dealers and manufacturers out there, including some from from China, that are honest and competitive. So the best way to reward the good ones and punish the bad guys is with your dollar.

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The owner of ThruNite didn’t know about this and when he found out he had them deleted, he told his staff to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

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How do you know that, ezarc?

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I was talking to him on Skype.

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kreisler wrote:

ezarc wrote:
The owner of ThruNite didn’t know about this and when he found out he had them deleted, he told his staff to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

 

Is it still possible that some person from the Thrunite staff was aware of the fake reviews or was even the author? Is it still possible, although each person of the Thrunite staff claims “i didnt do it, i didnt realize, i didnt know about it”, that they/one of them is responsible for the fake reviews situation?

i am not calling Thrunite liars but .. Flat Stare

erwischt ertappt , of course now they withdraw the fake reviews after gotten caught red-handed Wink


It was a staff member.

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That’s why you should read BLF reviews Wink

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@CalvinIS, there is a nice little button called Mark As Spam for these occasions. I have already used it and I would suggest you do to. Wink

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Thanks Calvin for the prompt elucidation of what is suggested above. Google searches can be informative, but must be treated carefully because it is often misleading because of the information that is lacking. And if information is available publicly that does not mean that it is meant to be spread freely without consideration.

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@CalvinIS, there is a nice little button called Mark As Spam for these occasions. I have already used it and I would suggest you do to. Wink

That’s not what the spam button is for. However, it should have been reported and I am glad the post was removed.

I have updated the original post and its title to reflect that Thrunite-store has removed the fake reviews for the BLF Saber, but their site still seems to have fake reviews on other lights.

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kreisler wrote:

brted wrote:
their site still seems to have fake reviews on other lights.

TN is f***ing unbelievable lmao

Kreisler, where do you find these gems? :bigsmile:

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im not surprised at this at all honestly… i usually base my purchases exclusively on reviews done on blf or cpf… or even youtube

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jmpaul320 wrote:
im not surprised at this at all honestly... i usually base my purchases exclusively on reviews done on blf or cpf... or even youtube
Same here. Wink
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scaru wrote:

@CalvinIS, there is a nice little button called Mark As Spam for these occasions. I have already used it and I would suggest you do to. Wink

Hmm, actually, that’s not what the SPAM button is for. But at any rate, CalvinIS contacted me, which is the correct way to handle problems with posts that aren’t unsolicited commercial advertising.

As for everyone else, a quick word of caution: Just because information is available on the internet doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily public domain. We have to be careful with claims and accusations, because BLF has pretty high search ranking and a LOT of visitors. So anything that is posted is bound to be read and possibly misused or misconstrued. Thanks!

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kreisler wrote:

Chloe wrote:
Kreisler, where do you find these gems? :bigsmile:

Red squirrels! We only get grey ones here.

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CalvinIS wrote:
scaru wrote:

@CalvinIS, there is a nice little button called Mark As Spam for these occasions. I have already used it and I would suggest you do to. Wink

I do not think marking the post as spam removes personal information about our parent’s residence from the thread, or indicate that the information within is inaccurate to other viewers.


I’m not taking sides here, but as the registered address of a business it is not “just your parents” residence is it. And I’m sure Google Maps street view and others will have a photo of the location and I suspect they won’t remove their copy.
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The information may well be out there on the web for all and sundry, but to post it in a “d0x” fashion is not good form.

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Chloe wrote:

Red squirrels! We only get grey ones here.


There are still reds in a few isolated locations. Also some of the greys are actually black in colour, completely jet black. Smile
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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
Chloe wrote:

Red squirrels! We only get grey ones here.


There are still reds in a few isolated locations. Also some of the greys are actually black in colour, completely jet black. Smile

Wow!!! Ninja squirrels! No wonder I haven’t seen any. :bigsmile:

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Chloe wrote:
Chicken Drumstick wrote:
Chloe wrote:

Red squirrels! We only get grey ones here.


There are still reds in a few isolated locations. Also some of the greys are actually black in colour, completely jet black. Smile

Wow!!! Ninja squirrels! No wonder I haven’t seen any. :bigsmile:


I think they are quite rare.

some info here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/16789326

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