$10.34 pocket thrower.

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Hi,

Is the “kicker” here using an XP-G2 with an XM-L reflector? If so, would something like this work in with a C8 body and C8 reflector?

I mentioned in another thread that I was checking around with a couple of C8s I got this week, switching reflectors among them, and I ended up with one light with a really ugly dark spot in the center of the beam. That, I think, turned out to be because the pill had moved further back into the body, and adjusting the pill position got rid of the dark spot. I was amazed. So, with this thread, I’m wondering what would happen if I combined something like an XP-G2 with an XM-L reflector. Is it possible that I’d get the same kind of result that you found with a P60?

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Jim

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blueb8llz wrote:
what sorta thrower should i be expecting? small sun zy t08 throwy? or a c8 range throw?

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blueb8llz wrote:
what sorta thrower should i be expecting? small sun zy t08 throwy? or a c8 range throw?

It out throws a good C8 T6 that I have but not a ZY T08. If I go out onto my front porch I have bunch of trees a couple football fields away maybe three. my C8 will just barely reach them. The C12 I just got from light malls lights them up pretty good but that is an L2-U2 and it’s over driven. This one is about as bright when it hits them but with a small beam. It’s hard to say how much difference there is between this 501b and the ZY T08 because mine now has a L2-U2 demoded in it and it now throws a lot farther than it did stock.

On the road I have another set of trees in the back that is about 5-600 yards? and the small sun would reach it ok but not enough to really see the trees. This 501B with a fresh battery touches them but doesn’t light them up quite like the ZY-t08 did. Now the T08 lights them up so you can see them.

Ok I just walked out and tested the C12 and the 501B at first they are about even on the long shot but within a minuet the C12 is brighter but even after that the 501 is still pretty close. Plus you have to remember that this C12 is really white compared tot he 501.

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Oh yah one more thing. I had an old fan that died so I took a bunch of copper wire from it and wrapped it around the reflector a whole bunch of times and got it so that it’s really packed in tight. I just barely got the top to screw down tight. The whole head of the flashlight gets hot fairly fast let’s say ten minuets or so.

I also have another drop in with a XP-G2 that is not de-domed it has the regular reflector that just fits the led I think it was from Kiadomain. It has a more defined hot spot than this one with the XML reflector but it’s about twice as big and half as bright. I believe that drop in is running at something like 2.8 it’s in a solarforce L2M that I got from MRsDNF in a give away. Very cool mod by the way.

Here it is the solarforce with some beam shots.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13113#node-13113

The 501b throws further and has a more neutral tint. Still love the solarforce though because I can use it in shorty mode and it has a super low low.

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Doing this:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/21036#comment-381865

...moves the heat just as well as any of that wrapping garbage, and you get to keep the easy swapping ability with no screwdrivers or hammers needed which is the whole point of the p60 format.

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comfychair wrote:

Doing this:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/21036#comment-381865

…moves the heat just as well as any of that wrapping garbage, and you get to keep the easy swapping ability with no screwdrivers or hammers needed which is the whole point of the p60 format.

Nice tip.

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Ordered all my stuff from fasttech. Gotta say, they have a sharp looking website! Went with an xml because I wasn’t looking for a thrower and have a silver solarforce l2 I won in a giveaway several months ago. Stuff should be here within a week(did the usps shipping).

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I have figured out our disagreement about which reflector works best here... If the XPG2 still has the dome on it, it works best with the XPG-specific small hole reflector. BUT, once it's de-domed, it doesn't focus worth a crap until you stick it in a XML reflector. Weird.

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comfychair wrote:

I have figured out our disagreement about which reflector works best here… If the XPG2 still has the dome on it, it works best with the XPG-specific small hole reflector. BUT, once it’s de-domed, it doesn’t focus worth a crap until you stick it in a XML reflector. Weird.

Yep it’s interesting how that works.

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Whoa, something else interesting. If you have one, try a small hole XPG reflector with a XML. Shocked

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comfychair wrote:

Whoa, something else interesting. If you have one, try a small hole XPG reflector with a XML. Shocked

I do but not one I want to take apart because it’s got a handmade pill that is really jammed in there.

So what’s it do?

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It's the cleanest, prettiest pattern I've ever seen from a p60!

I don't know what will happen with a de-domed XML in a XPG reflector, have to try that too...

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comfychair wrote:

It’s the cleanest, prettiest pattern I’ve ever seen from a p60!

I don’t know what will happen with a de-domed XML in a XPG reflector, have to try that too…

Cool I will have to order a XPG reflector and give it a try.

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Any lux readings been done on the $10 XPG2 de-domed build?

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Any lux readings been done on the $10 XPG2 de-domed build?

Nope I don’t have a lux meter yet. I keep thinking of getting one but each time I do I see another light or another project instead. I just have a few set points that I go outside and shine my lights on. Each one is a little further away. So I know when I can reach out and touch the last one I have a really good thrower. This build is not reaching the last one but I can tell it’s a good deal farther because it’s coming closer. I’m also sure that some of the smaller pinpoint beams would show a lot more on a lux meter than my eyes can register on the trees way out there. But still I guess I’m more interested in how much I can see than what the meter says. Still I’ll probably break down and buy one if for no other reason that to post the results. I’m sure that’s better than simply saying “it throws really far” LOL

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18sixfifty wrote:
Rusty Joe wrote:
Any lux readings been done on the $10 XPG2 de-domed build?

Nope I don’t have a lux meter yet. I keep thinking of getting one but each time I do I see another light or another project instead. I just have a few set points that I go outside and shine my lights on. Each one is a little further away. So I know when I can reach out and touch the last one I have a really good thrower. This build is not reaching the last one but I can tell it’s a good deal farther because it’s coming closer. I’m also sure that some of the smaller pinpoint beams would show a lot more on a lux meter than my eyes can register on the trees way out there. But still I guess I’m more interested in how much I can see than what the meter says. Still I’ll probably break down and buy one if for no other reason that to post the results. I’m sure that’s better than simply saying “it throws really far” LOL

I’m still trying to get an idea of how far I should expect this thing to throw. It would have to exceed a standard C8 and be smaller. I weary of having every thrower I use by too large for jean pockets. Know what I’m sayin?

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I have what I guess you could call a 'plain' C8 - UF C8 originally came with a XRE & crappy driver, been swapped out for a CW XML2 (dome still intact)/Sinkpad/3A Qlite, but still using the original reflector & lens. The P60/dedomed XPG2 similar to 18sixfifty's (but using another 3A Qlite) blows it away. But then again, so does my Convoy S4, also with a dedomed XPG2/Qlite even though its reflector is only 17mm wide x 18mm deep. P60 and S4 perform remarkably similarly with the same LED/driver, so if size is important the S4 may be a better choice.

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I prefer a older [larger] UF-504B host.
Even more led options available since then.

 

 

 

 

 
 
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I like the 502B pretty well, but if I could find the older 504B’s cheap I would grab them up. I have been making these up now with, XP-G2 S4 de-domed on noctigons with the BLF DD driver. I use the copper sleeve trick now. The 502B still have the “attack” bezel that I could do without but it’s not a bad one and the annodizing on the new 502B is miles above the 501B.

I have some of the XP-e2’s on the way to try them as well.

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18sixfifty wrote:
…if I could find the older 504B’s cheap I would grab them up.

$7.88 @ DX; I haven’t purchased one from them though so I’m not sure of the quality:
http://www.dx.com/p/uitrafire-504b-aluminum-alloy-replacement-case-for-f...

…and in Black for $7.90:
http://www.dx.com/p/uitrafire-504b-aluminum-alloy-replacement-case-for-f...


Keepin’ the “B” in BLF

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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