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Thanks! Big Smile I think it should be Class 3 instead, range of approx 1m. Class 2 has range of approx 10m.

You actually Want Class 3? Why?? Class 3 is very uncommon and rated @ 1mW & 1m as you stated…..Hmm maybe it has a Class 3 in it and that is why the range is not that great; I just figured it was just the metal case that was causing the range to be less than desired and that would cause that effect…..but yea Class 3 would really limit it.

Class 1 has a power output of 100mW which gives you 100 meters depending upon environmental conditions. I really thought they used Class 2 which is 2.5mW going out to 10m which is very common.

I was saying the one currently in the Asgard should be Class 3. I also initially thought they would use Class 2! Thought I could control the light across the room, but no Sad

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Just received my Asgard Smile Bought the Sanyo 2600mAh flattops together with some magnets. The magnets keep shifting when I try to screw in the head. Tried quite a few times before finally getting it. For those using flattops, any tips to using the magnet?
Do what I did with Magnet use.  Get yourself from Crazy Glue in gel form.  I got mine at the Dollar Tree for, you guessed it, $1.  Put your magnet on the battery and center it.  Once centered put a small bead of the crazygel around the base of the magnet.  This will keep the magnet from moving on you as well as keep it firmly in place if you drop the light.

Just remember, no glue under the magnet.  Just put a bead around the base perimeter. Wink

Thanks for suggesting. Glue under the magnet would be cool, there goes the battery! Big Smile

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Instead of a magnet, I use a solder blob on the positive end. No way it will move around Wink

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With my previous-now-destroyed driver, I was connecting more or less reliably at 8-inches to a foot.  One time it seemed almost 3-feet . . . well, an arm's length anyway.  It would hardly connect at all if it was parallel to my phone but all I had to do is move the phone ahead of the reflector a little bit and it hooked up and stayed connected fairly stable.

Ahhh, those were the days . . .

 

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radiancez567 wrote:
Just received my Asgard Smile

Bought the Sanyo 2600mAh flattops together with some magnets.
The magnets keep shifting when I try to screw in the head. Tried quite a few times before finally getting it.
For those using flattops, any tips to using the magnet? Or I guess I should just use 2×18650 button tops.

Managed to pair to Samsung Galaxy S2, my laptop, as well as my tablet, but the bluetooth is very very weak and needs really close proximity. Followed the instruction to point the head of Asgard to the screen, and the connection still fails most of the time. Then when I finally got the connection, quickly send the profile over! Party

So far have only tried sending profiles from S2 and tablet and both work fine, but the connection is very not stable.

Mode programming is fun. If you’re in the profile that the Asgard is currently using, then pressing on the mode would activate the mode! But the maximum distance I’ve achieved was a mere 50cm, and I have to move it closer. If only the distance could be further. Future upgrades should definitely use a stronger Bluetooth module? If only the bluetooth range could be much much longer, then I can really “remote” control my light from the other end of the room! And that was what I thought I could do!

The throw is good too! At 100% it is brighter and appears to out-throw my Fandyfire HD2010.

The 18mA moonlight mode is the lowest moonlight I’ve ever seen! Very dim and nice.

Overall it’s a fun purchase. Glad to support the initial development.

You know, they really should have incorporated WIFI, rather than BT, which is what I originally guessed was what they were doing. I think it’d be much more useful, and would open up a huge® number of possibilities.. JMO though :(…

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Just out of curiosity, anyone experimented to see if the BT range improves with the reflector out and the antenna clear of the body? And/or has anyone having connection issues tried that?

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I think it is Not Good that there is an Antenne Printed on the PCb and that the wire to the Other Antenna is nonshielded, so we get One Big weird Antenna.

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Yeah, mines not really connecting at all.

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Werner wrote:
I think it is Not Good that there is an Antenne Printed on the PCb and that the wire to the Other Antenna is nonshielded, so we get One Big weird Antenna.

Agreed... I will be cutting the trace for the onboard antenna, leaving just enough to allow attaching the extension. I have 2 drivers, I may do one each way and see if it makes any difference.

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I gotta tell ya…pretty happy I didn’t pony up the dough to get the Asgard…essentially paying to be FT’s guinea pig.

Beyond the hype…wouldn’t it make much more sense to use a wired USB connection instead of wireless? The bluetooth has to be about 1-3 feet away from your phone/PC…so theres no big advantage there.

Sure…you could easily program it out in the field…but you could do the same if wired. Yeah…would be easier to accomplish this wirelessly (assuming the wireless works…lol) But realistically…how many times will most normal people have to do that? I’m betting once in a bluetooth moon. :bigsmile:

I think the technology is cool and all…but in my opinion the Asgard should have gone through much more testing before launch.

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kronological wrote:
I gotta tell ya…pretty happy I didn’t pony up the dough to get the Asgard…essentially paying to be FT’s guinea pig.

Beyond the hype…wouldn’t it make much more sense to use a wired USB connection instead of wireless? The bluetooth has to be about 1-3 feet away from your phone/PC…so theres no big advantage there.

Sure…you could easily program it out in the field…but you could do the same if wired. Yeah…would be easier to accomplish this wirelessly (assuming the wireless works…lol) But realistically…how many times will most normal people have to do that? I’m betting once in a bluetooth moon. :bigsmile:

I think the technology is cool and all…but in my opinion the Asgard should have gone through much more testing before launch.

I tell ya, I know they’ll get it resolved- but I’m a little irritated that I was sorta forced into buying it before may 31st to get the $10 discount for a light that still isn’t ready for production. Right now I paid $43 for a light that is a 3 mode without memory. That and I scuffed my reflector trying to get it to work- and it’s still a no go.

And if I buy a set of batteries for it, like I’m going to need- it’s suddenly a $60ish light. A light that we’re all paying to be the beta testers for.

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Not wanting to rub it in, but minr connected to my galaxy s3 flawlessly every time, and I’ve just tested and once paired, I can control the modes from 5m away horizontally with the reflector pointing at the phone. With it set on the floor tail standing and me stood up, I get the same range.

I do wonder if the bluetooth emission strength is limited in America compared to the UK and that is the cause of the issues.

Was it worth being a guinea pig? to me, yes, this is to me the most exciting driver set up I’ve seen, I wanted in badly, the only issue I’ve had is my bum programming, hardly fasttech’s fault as I was one of the ones demanding full access.

What was fun was a friend popped over to have his air con gassed, he also wanted to see some of my builds. He did like them, but when I connected to the asgard and started playing he was really blown away, he really wasn’t expecting someone to be able to do that.

It helps that I love the zy-t08 form factor, this is to me a damm good, customer configurable light, small enough to use under a vehicle (yep, I’ve been using it at work) enough output for most needs, I’m a happy camper.

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My Asgard with the old driver connected on the first try every time within about a foot.  It even connected one time at almost 3 feet.  It pretty much behaved like a Bluetooth earpiece but connectivity did suffer a bit when the reflector was pointed away from the phone.

For whatever reason, that old setup with the original apk worked almost perfect for me.

 

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I’m using windows XP. I think they haven’t worked out all the bugs yet, because I’m guessing most people are using their Android phones. For what it’s worth I also tried the app on a windows 7 machine, and it behaved very similarly. I’ve used the built in bluetooth on both laptops and also tried a cheap bluetooth dongle I’ve had for a while on the XP unit. Depending on whether I was using the dongle or the built in (recently updated drivers) bluetooth, it may not display the correct voltage. The windows 7 machine would display the correct voltage and temp, but it gave me the same error to quit or continue when I’d try to read data from the light.

The way it behaved similarly on both machines is: that the first time I’d connect, I’d set my modes and enable mode memory. I’d click update- it would almost instantly say the light had been updated. I’d disconnect and then the light wouldn’t have any of my modes- just default. Then when I’d connect again- it’s connect, but then it wouldn’t let me set any modes or rename anything. I’d give me the error message and it’s crash when I’d tried to rename a profile.

If I deleted the user data from the folder, then I could go back and try “reprogram” the light, update it- and nothing would be saved when powering the light on.

Seems like the android users have a better app, and it also seems like everyone else is getting the light to work but me. Is it operator error? This shouldn’t be hard… And by the way, I do have a ticket opened.

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Got my Asgard today… I am not very impressed. Build quality is really low. The Bezel has scratches and there was dirt on the led. Sadly the reflector has some scratches and finger prints too… The finger prints you only see when the light is turned on… Very bad Sad

I have connection issues too… With my Windows PC it is impossible to program… With at least on of my smartphones I get connection and was able to program it. But the light has to be very very close (just 2-3cm) away from the phone, and in a “special” angle. When I place the flashlight on the head e.g. its not working.

I think the bluetooth thing is very funny – But it doesnt make fun when you first have to spend minutes to find a perfect angle where it connects… And then these scratches, bad solder work and the led not really well connected to the pill.

I really dont know what to do Sad

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DasEtwas wrote:
Got my Asgard today... I am not very impressed. Build quality is really low. The Bezel has scratches and there was dirt on the led. Sadly the reflector has some scratches and finger prints too... The finger prints you only see when the light is turned on... Very bad Sad I have connection issues too... With my Windows PC it is impossible to program... With at least on of my smartphones I get connection and was able to program it. But the light has to be very very close (just 2-3cm) away from the phone, and in a "special" angle. When I place the flashlight on the head e.g. its not working. I think the bluetooth thing is very funny - But it doesnt make fun when you first have to spend minutes to find a perfect angle where it connects... And then these scratches, bad solder work and the led not really well connected to the pill. I really dont know what to do :(
Open a ticket with Fasttech on their site then PM Jasmine with a link to your post and your ticket number with Fasttech.
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I will, thx

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I received my replacement pill/driver and now have a perfectly functioning Asgard.  Connects on the first try and unlike the original driver, all modes program and work beautifully.  The range is a little less with this one, about 8-inches is as far as it will connect.  The original connected up to about 3-feet.

Anyway, I now have a light I can review.

 

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Foy wrote:

I received my replacement pill/driver and now have a perfectly functioning Asgard.  Connects on the first try and unlike the original driver, all modes program and work beautifully.  The range is a little less with this one, about 8-inches is as far as it will connect.  The original connected up to about 3-feet.

Anyway, I now have a light I can review.

 

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very encouraging, anxiously awaiting the review!

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Opened a ticket last week. Mines still a 3-moder.

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Ok, so I finally got it to work. Trying on my third computer. Looks like my comments always seem to be a FlexCandles thread killer- I’m not sure why. I just wanted to use the light I paid for. Anyway with pretty much no help from Fasttech other than an initial “well have it fixed in 24 hours” then silence for over an entire week- I have sort of solved it. Anyway issues with communication with tech support aside… Here’s what I did.

So I have a lenovo at home with built in blue-tooth. I tried to connect it to the light many many times. I added the flashlight, before the software… entered the Password 1234… It told me I was connected. Cool. Weird thing was though it told me I was at 2.0 on fresh batteries and the temperature at rest was wayyyy off. So I updated it the first time. Turned the light off, back on… it didn’t update the light even though it told me it did. Then, every time I tried to connect after that the program kept crashing. Since this was an older laptop, I though maybe the bluetooth hadn’t been updated in a while… I had tried to unsuccessfully pair a bluetooth headset in the past. So I searched online for my model…. tried to find where the transmitter was- no luck… but I read a suggestion that I may need to update the lenovo bluetooth software.

Ok so I did. Same problem though- although it gave me a new second “port” to connect to the asgard. This was very intermittent though- although this new “port 8” gave the correct battery voltage and temp… it still crashed- if I could even get it to connect to port 8.

Plan C. I had a cheap USB bluetooth receiver from years ago. I decided to plug it in and give it a go. Cool. It gave me another port… it connected every time- but same as the first. Incorrect battery voltage, etc… then it began crashing.

Brought the light to work- used an older windows vista machine with bluetooth. Crashed yet again… same error code.

Ok so I decided to open a ticket. They got back to me within a day and told me to download the latest version of the software- they linked me to the same software I downloaded from their website a day prior. I had the latest version. Still crashed. Sent them another email. They told me to download a “BUG CATCHING” version of the software this time and send them the report and they’d have it fixed within 24 hours. About 12 hours later I sent them the code…. and that was the last I heard from tech support. That was last Monday. Like the previous week, Monday.

Ok…. fast forward to today. I’m at work- have the light and the cheapo bluetooth receiver… plugged it into this machine. Paired it… downloaded the software… This time it was having a hard time even pairing… when I had the flashlight 2 inches from the receiver. So I had an idea to rotate the light while keeping it pointed at the receiver… keeping it only an inch or two away. Then holding it exactly in the same spot. It finally paired.

The thing to keep in mind though- pairing and connecting via the software are two different stages.

Ok so I opened the software… Connected to the light… just like I had many many times before. Bingo. This time I got the correct voltage and temp. Mind you I’m holding the light with one hand unmoving while chicken pecking with the other to set my modes. My arms tired I updated it- a last ditch effort- before sending an angry email to tech support asking for a refund- after their lack of help.

It worked!!

Yes!

I mean it acted strange, and gave me some super weird blinking modes I did not add in… But at least my modes were there! I decided to try and take out a mode or two. And see if it was less glitch-y now. Bingo! Now I have five modes that I’m happy with.

To try and end this briefly… This is an interesting product with a crappy beta implementation. Sorry- but I shouldn’t have had this much trouble- especially when paying $43 for a “final product.”

Oh and a side note… I sent an email over the weekend wondering why I hadn’t heard even a “still working on it” peep from tech support. I got a response on sunday night/ monday from customer service saying it was the weekend… and that they’d forward it to tech support and I’d hear something within 24 hours… I mentioned it had been more than that already- and that was some time Monday I responded to her response… Still nothing…

Anyway- anyone who is on the fence- this is just one users experience. Obviously your mileage may vary- and it has- considering all the people who are quiet/mum or have responded positively about the light.

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Jasmine wanted us to PM her if we wanted the drivers only, but she hasn’t responded to my two PM’s and it’s been over two weeks since I’ve sent them. :_(

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ryansoh3 wrote:
Jasmine wanted us to PM her if we wanted the drivers only, but she hasn’t responded to my two PM’s and it’s been over two weeks since I’ve sent them. :_(

Funny, not an hour after I posted my observations- I got a response from her.

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Sorry about the wait.

I’ve confirmed with our technicals and they have not been to figure out the problem without having the flashlight in hand.

Would you like to return it to our Miami address and have a replacement? We will reimburse the return postage. We will double check the replacement before shipping and make sure it will not have the same problems like this one.

Please let me know if this is accpetable, thanks.

Sorry again for any inconveniences caused.

If the light gets sent back. I definitely do not want another. I am going to try and make it work one last time on my home computer- if it doesn’t cooperate then it’s on a plane to Miami.

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Well, I've received my replacement driver (full preassembled pill this time) and it works like a charm!  If they offer to send you an entire replacement pill I encourage you to go that route.  I can't imagine you wouldn't be happy with the light once it gets sorted out.  I also can't imagine anyone as angry and frustrated as I was with mine before they got the driver sorted out for me.  I like the light now and am really looking forward to the new Beowulf model with the better quality host.

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really looking forward to the new Beowulf model with the better quality host.

That.

If the Beowulf is smaller and perhaps a little more stable, I’m very interested. The size of the Asgard was its main drawback, as far as I’m concerned, though I really wouldn’t mind having something more deeply programmable too. Ease of use is a good thing, but I’d rather have a fully Turing-complete language at my disposal… in a form small enough to EDC.

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mhanlen wrote:
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Jasmine wanted us to PM her if we wanted the drivers only, but she hasn’t responded to my two PM’s and it’s been over two weeks since I’ve sent them. :_(

Funny, not an hour after I posted my observations- I got a response from her.

Yeah, I have a feeling that she doesn’t want to send out bare drivers anymore. :_(

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Ok, just an update. I went home and tried using the update on my lenovo again. Still a no go. The laptop has built in bluetooth- but it still gave me an incorrect temp and voltage. Then I tried using my cheapo bluetooth receiver that I used with a computer at work, which was successful. It will not properly communicate with my lenovo at all using either internal or external bluetooth. After hearing a few of you guys suggest I get a new driver- I might do that. Well they’re offering to swap out the light altogether which is even better. Maybe I’ll do that since I scratched up the reflector a bit trying to get it to work. I mean there’s always a possibilty it’s the laptop- so I still may end up frustrated.

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mhanlen wrote:
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Jasmine wanted us to PM her if we wanted the drivers only, but she hasn’t responded to my two PM’s and it’s been over two weeks since I’ve sent them. :_(

Funny, not an hour after I posted my observations- I got a response from her.

Yeah, I have a feeling that she doesn’t want to send out bare drivers anymore. :_(

Wow, I’m a complete idiot.

I was PM’ing the user “jasmine” instead of “fasttech.”

Now you can feel better about yourselves. 8)

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Have you been able to order a driver only?

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Sent (the real) Jasmine a PM 24 hours ago, but haven’t gotten a reply yet.

I’ll give it a few more days.

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