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I like the concept of easy programmability.

The naming of the specific model and the other suggested labels remind me of this brand which I am quite the fan of.

And have already spent thousands on.

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anybody know?

I read that the default on this light is something like, low, med, high. So, does this have 3 settings available? You could program ‘many’ different light settings but only use 1 of three at any give time. Then use the app to transfer other settings to the light if u want? Is that how this will work? Sounds like fun, for a while…..

thoughts?

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anybody know? I read that the default on this light is something like, low, med, high. So, does this have 3 settings available? You could program 'many' different light settings but only use 1 of three at any give time. Then use the app to transfer other settings to the light if u want? Is that how this will work? Sounds like fun, for a while..... thoughts? patrick -

flexcandles.com site says: "Program your flashlight the way you want it. Make it single-mode, 3 modes, or even 30 modes."

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now that sounds even ‘funner!’

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I’m hoping to be able to program moonlight low medium high with memory, its just about my favourite set up, this would make this light an awesome bed side light – moonlight or very low for baby duties, high with decent throw for when things go bump in the night.

I also agree with a statement above, it would be nice to know if the 7135’s are addressable, then you could stack the one for high to gain a higher high and retain a very low low, unless I’m totally not understanding the driver set up.

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I'm hoping to be able to program moonlight low medium high with memory, its just about my favourite set up, this would make this light an awesome bed side light - moonlight or very low for baby duties, high with decent throw for when things go bump in the night. I also agree with a statement above, it would be nice to know if the 7135's are addressable, then you could stack the one for high to gain a higher high and retain a very low low, unless I'm totally not understanding the driver set up.
Since the moonlight mode doesn't have PWM and each 12.5% in output doesn't have PWM, I don't think the moonlight uses any of the AMC7135 chips but uses something else instead.  Seems to me you could double stack each 7135 if you wanted to get 6A output without effecting the moonlight mode.  Of course I'm just spit-balling here but it sounds logical on the surface to an electronic ignoramus like myself. Wink
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that’s kind of what I was wondering, it would be nice to keep moonlight – 12.5% of 3a – 50% of 3a – 4.5a+ for high and use an xm-l2 nw on copper that way you get moonlight -low no pwm – medium no pwm – high no pwm 8)

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Lol,
They build the light out of our dreams and we still want to mod it…

From my understanding the 7135 are stackable, too.

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Werner wrote:
Lol,
They build the light out of our dreams and we still want to mod it…

Would anyone expect any less of us?
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Pulsar wrote:
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Lol, They build the light out of our dreams and we still want to mod it…
Would anyone expect any less of us?

No

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Werner wrote:
Lol, They build the light out of our dreams and we still want to mod it

Modding is not a means to an end for me, it is the end Smile  This one I might actually keep stock though.

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I’m merely looking to build on the awesome platform presented 0:)

We have here, a light that seems infinitely configurable, we have been told we can set brightness levels at 12.5% intervals that have no pwm (8 chips, 8 levels that can be independently turned on, well you start at 1 and stack those intervals) that being the case, we have the options of a number of sensible levels and one stupidly high turbo level to unleash the throw potential of this host, check out tom e’s results in relics zy-t08 review thread to get where I’m going with this.

Given the opportunity, and potential, would you really not even ask the question?

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I’m still debating…. on the one hand,

  • It’s programmable
  • It’d be my best thrower (since I gave the TK75 away), yet still be usable indoors thanks to low/extra-low modes. I think it’d get like 65k to 70k lux stock, and go down to around 3 lumens on the 8mA mode.
  • It’s programmable
  • I had been kinda thinking about a ZY-T08 or HD2010 or Jacob A60 or ZY-C10-S anyway, just for fun.
  • It’s programmable

But on the other hand…

  • It’s too big for most of my purposes
  • I almost never have a use for a long thrower
  • The control app might not be compatible with any of my devices

If they can fit this programmable driver into a Convoy S3 or similar, it’d be a no-brainer.

Maybe I just need to get the hardware to flash an ATTINY and take apart some tube lights. Or, the HexBright looks nice too, and its video shows the ability to handle press-and-hold events so it’s an electronic switch. Looks like its programming language is sufficiently powerful too, so I could give it algorithmic features and a wide variety of UI styles.

Or, as they say on CPF, maybe I should just get both. Or do all three.

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if one can program 30 modes, or more, how does one access all the modes? Half press? How would u remember them all? Could someone please address this, thanks…

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toy keeper, as I said in another thread, I’d really like to hear both yours and chloe’s opinions on one of these actually in hand.

The zy-t08 really isn’t so big, considering, I love mine for a jacket/cargo pocket thrower, I just see this as adding so much more usability to a stock zy-t08.

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When they make an iOS compatable one, I’d be interested. Unfortunately I no longer have anything but iOS devices in the home as of January

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
My name is Kendall and I’m a Flashaholic from western Canada

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I even love the name Asguard, home of Odin and Thor Wink
Tempting so tempting, Hopefully there’s an app for it someday Smile

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
My name is Kendall and I’m a Flashaholic from western Canada

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gords1001 wrote:
toy keeper, as I said in another thread, I’d really like to hear both yours and chloe’s opinions on one of these actually in hand.

I’m not sure I’m the best person to ask… I grew up playing piano because I have long fingers. For me it’s more a matter of finding a place to put the light, and not so much about holding it. Ideally it’ll be small enough to fit in my purse and light enough to not rip the lining at the seams.

However, I do rather like lights small enough to be carried between fingers like a cigarette. Those are particularly comfy. Anything smaller than a SK-68 works pretty well for me as an EDC.

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I even love the name Asguard, home of Odin and Thor Wink Tempting so tempting, Hopefully there's an app for it someday :)
Just get a $4 BT USB dongle for your PC.  Even a Mac can emulate windows if it needs to.  They do have a Windows app for the FLEX system in addition to the Android (superior to IOS anyway Wink ).
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This sounds like it has many of the Armytek Predator’s customization virtues. You can even similarly change them on the go with a phone.

Will there be a edc version soon. and if so how small can the light possibly be with a bluetooth reciever and stuff in it?

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CarpentryHero wrote:
I even love the name Asguard, home of Odin and Thor Wink Tempting so tempting, Hopefully there’s an app for it someday Smile
Just get a $4 BT USB dongle for your PC.  Even a Mac can emulate windows if it needs to.  They do have a Windows app for the FLEX system in addition to the Android (superior to IOS anyway Wink ).

My home computer is a Mac, I’m not computer inclined enough to get it to use windows to emulate a PC. (Don’t want to pay for software either)

I’ll wait for an iOS version of this that’s phone compatible, it’s a cool feature but I have programable lights so I can wait for the right one for me

I’m glad I’m not the only flashlight collector out there, I was beginning to think I was strange.
My name is Kendall and I’m a Flashaholic from western Canada

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Never thought of the size since now…
How is the size compared to a c8? Similiar just with2 batts, or much bigger?

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Never thought of the size since now…
How is the size compared to a c8? Similiar just with2 batts, or much bigger?

IIRC, it’s about 2cm longer and the bezel is about 2cm wider. Both are likely due to the bigger reflector. The handle, of course, is twice as wide with the two batteries. (like a Fenix TK35 handle)

It’s not huge, but it’ll still require a coat pocket or holster or bag.

I can stuff either a C8 or a SRK into my purse, but in either case the weight is enough to tear the lining a bit at the seams. I suspect the Asgard will only fit in my heavy winter coat pocket or backpack, so I don’t expect to be carrying it very often. Then again, I’ve been thinking of un-sewing and re-sewing this purse with a stronger lining material so I can carry more toys. AA, AAA, and 16340 lights are nice, but they’re no substitute for my bigger lights.


Edit: Dimensions:

  • XinTD C8 V4: 155mm long, 45mm head, 25mm body, 185g
  • Fenix TK35: 164mm long, 51.5mm head, 43.6mm body, 256g
  • FLEX Asgard: 174mm long, 65.5mm head, 42mm body, 329g
  • Fenix TK75: 185mm long, 87.5mm head, 52.5mm body, 510g
  • Skyray King: 133mm long, 59mm head, 50mm body, 512g

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a nice light in the medium-throwy class…though I’m most looking forward to having this tech in smaller form factors. I look forward to Flex lights in the sub-C8 category (like Convoy M1/M2 or Shiningbeam Blaze) as well as something truly EDC’able in jeans’ pockets.

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I’d love to know more about how programmable the Asgard is. For example, does its programming language have any form of logical control structures and loops? Can it stay on while the power button is being pressed, for things like press-and-hold to ramp the output? Does the language have a concept of variables and mathematical operations? How much space is available for storing programs / modes? Can the user define multiple mode groups and switch between them with well-timed button presses? Is there any type of random number generator, for things like a randomly-varying strobe mode? Etc…

To answer some of your questions:

  1. For the Asgard, there are 254 bytes reserved for commands and their accompanying parameters. However, each mode is limited to 64 bytes due to memory constraints. 64 bytes are enough for a morse code about 5-character long, depending on how you encode the message.
  2. The light has a reverse clickie so no it can’t stay on while power button is pressed.
  3. Mode groups are called profiles in the app. You can define unlimited number of such profiles, but to switch between them you’ll see your smartphone to be around.
  4. There is a group of advanced commands which contains (pseudo) RNG (and more). We will explain on these advanced controls when the app is released.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I’d love to know more about how programmable the Asgard is.

To answer some of your questions:

Thanks! This gives me a much better idea what the light might be capable of.
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I’m just waiting for the app now, to see if I’ll be able to run it.

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I just want to be clear, this works with Windows XP and up right? The only reason I ask is that a lot of people seem concerned about being able to program this flashlight.

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I just want to be clear, this works with Windows XP and up right? The only reason I ask is that a lot of people seem concerned about being able to program this flashlight.

Well, that doesn’t sound quite ‘right’. Any person who buys this Should and Expects to be able to program it by Bluetooth, either from the PC app, or smartphone app. That’s the main attraction of this light. So your question comes across as a little ‘strange’. If not they would be better off with a ZY-T08.

But we don’t know yet anyway. Still gotta wait for the reviews, to confirm it.

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mhanlen wrote:
I just want to be clear, this works with Windows XP and up right? The only reason I ask is that a lot of people seem concerned about being able to program this flashlight.

Well, that doesn’t sound quite ‘right’. Any person who buys this Should and Expects to be able to program it by Bluetooth, either from the PC app, or smartphone app. That’s the main attraction of this light. So your question comes across as a little ‘strange’. If not they would be better off with a ZY-T08.

But we don’t know yet anyway. Still gotta wait for the reviews, to confirm it.

I only ask, because I’m pretty sure I saw very early on that they said it would be via windows or Android. But I keep reading people worried that they can’t program it. Unless there’s been some information I missed- almost all people have access to Windows or Android devices so I’m asking for confirmation. Ok, let me wade back through and find the info for myself….

Edit: That took two seconds… Fastechs website…

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PC/Smartphone Requirements: Windows XP or higher, Android 3.0 Honeycomb or higher (ICS and Jellybean recommended) Bluetooth 2.1 or higher

Well that’s what I wanted to know.

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